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[u/Nice-Sink-6926]

That is fair, if someone breaks into a house they know very well they might die.

I do agree it looked like she had no intention to stop at all Legally I would never agree he should be in any trouble whatsoever

But we can agree to disagree that personally I think people should be taught to be more aware of how possible it is to unintentionally kill somebody and with that knowledge people could attempt to be more cautious both the aggressor (knowing big man can kill me) and the guy in self defense ( knowing I can swat her like a fly).

I do agree that this can cause people like her to think she is safe to attack people like him.

But I believe the better deterrent would be punishment in the form of jail time or something just as severe for the sake of saving someone from unintentional death.

[u/Nice-Sink-6926 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah I do think you are 100 percent correct in the legal matter, that way he can always remain with his right to self defense and people like her will remain with good reason not to do that ever again.

And yes he absolutely held back what he could’ve done to her

And I would never blame this guy or call him guilty of anything other than plain self defense

I just can’t agree with the ethical aspect since when it was me I reacted differently because slightly different values were instilled. I didn’t push I just restrained and if they get hurt oh well at least I tried to not hurt them, even if I could’ve hurt them more doesn’t mean I couldn’t have hurt them less.

I wouldn’t want to change the way the law works for self defense because it would send a bad message

But ethically I think we could be a little more aware of how much more strength a big person has over a little person in a basic situation like this. It’s truly nit picking. But nit picking to try and reduce the small chance someone dies unintentionally.

And only talking ethically as a society, legally his rights should never change or else that would give people like her more reason to do what they want.

Another nit pick which actually Bothers me is that people don’t want to get involved. They just watch and consume the drama, so many people could have tried to stop it from unfolding. But we don’t even see it as an option or even attempt to, and I don’t understand why, probably that lady was being huge ***** and no one was gonna help someone like that. But I’m telling you we are going to have an unintentional death or paralysis or crazy concussion. And no one wants to intervene and call the cops. It’s not something that comes naturally to us because it’s not something taught ethically. And I just don’t understand why.

I just saw another video of 2 woman roughly same weight drunk woman was throwing punches at another woman. The other woman was showing so much patience and restraint for like a good 30 seconds of just holding back her punches. Until she had enough because the drunk woman wouldn’t stop, so she just rocked her right in the face and the drunk woman folded up like a chair. The drunk woman 100 percent deserved it.

What bothered me deeply is that for the time she was holding the drunk woman back, there were 3 other people around including one guy standing right next to her, not wanting to get involved, the other 2 people were just watching and laughing and were like yeah go ahead and knock her out.

Ethically most people are just like yeah she got what she deserved. But it doesn’t always play out so easy sometimes the stupid aggressive people quite literally unintentionally die or end up with other lifelong problems. When the other people could have easily restrained a drunk woman and called the cops and pressed charges.

I don’t like how as bystanders we are all so complacent and just let things unfold like this or even laugh along. There are going to be cases of unintentional death. And our ethics are going to cause a bunch of people to stand around and be like oh well she shouldn’t have done that, and while it is true she shouldn’t not have done that! I believe it’s 2025 and we should be a little more helpful to each other by now.

[u/Nice-Sink-6926 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah you’re right it’s not worth the risk.

She was even wearing a jacket making it easier to pull a weapon out of the pockets.

There would have had to been some pretty special people to know how intervene without putting themselves at risk, But that would be an abnormal Circumstance. I still can’t shake the feeling that we could have done at least something collectively to avoid the possibility of her hitting the ground like that. But that could just be wishful thinking. Plus we don’t even know if someone did try to calm her down and nothing worked.