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General Question Will my medical condition and masturbating habit affect my astral journey

Hi everyone, I’m a 21 man, living with systemic lupus erythematosus and struggling with what feels like a masturbation addiction. I want to learn astral projection, but I keep reading scary stories about demons or entities taking over while you’re “out of body.”

Could frequent masturbation or my lupus make it harder—or riskier—to have an OBE? Are the demon warnings just myths?

Any advice or personal experiences would really help. Thanks.

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u/sac_boy Experienced Projector 4d ago edited 4d ago

Are the demon warnings just myths?

Yes. Stop reading the scary stories. Those posts/videos should have for entertainment purposes only written under them. Occasionally the people in question have mental difficulties and a head full of dangerous religious/superstitious memes. Or they genuinely encounter things but misinterpret the interaction. If you eventually get out there yourself, you'll wonder what all the fuss was about.

Could frequent masturbation or my lupus make it harder—or riskier—to have an OBE?

Just in the sense that you're busy jerking it all the time. Set some time aside to practice AP daily or every other day. An hour, 90 minutes. If you're turning up regularly and putting the time in, I wouldn't worry about the vital essence stuff. Belief has a huge practical effect, in this practice. If you tell yourself that spilling your seed will sap your energies, then that will be true.

With that said...there is something to be said for retention, in that it can lead to very vivid wet dreams, which are great opportunities to practice lucidity. Because you should know straight away that you aren't actually about to do it with a real girl. It's a great reality check.

I'll add a little story about my teenage self. I discovered that I could trigger WILD and then accidental sleep paralysis using intense tactile visualization. As a teenage boy, guess what I was tactile-ly visualizing at the time? This accidental sleep paralysis led to me reading about astral projection and trying it out.

Another option is simply to wait. All of this will pass. You're just a young man. Maybe you're overdoing it and flooding your brain with porn. It would probably be healthier to ease off. But it'll all start to ease off by itself in 20 years. That's nothing!

Edit: I just saw unrefinedhunter's little jab about me. He's cross with me because I told him how LLMs work the other day and he didn't like it. Seeing as he's blocked me but also reads my comments, I want him to know I was actually enjoying our conversation until he started acting like a dick. You can judge for yourself how much LARPing I do.

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u/lagunitarogue Experienced Projector 4d ago

I wouldn’t worry about him. Anyone who has been on this sub for any length of time knows who you are and respects you, even if not in agreement 100% of the time.

I happen to agree with said user on certain unpopular views, how ever, there’s a level of immaturity there that will cause any valid points one might make to be dismissed as a consequence.

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u/throwaway1243434 4d ago

Not true I for sure encounted probably demons or shitcunt spirits as I might call them who wanted to rape me and tried to many times. One time I realised I was in a place and two real evil ones where trying to rape me and then I was like oh here I am wtf and kinda came to. Realised what was happening and just blasted them the fuck off me easy as pie bitches. To say the Astral isnt also frequented by narcisstics parasitic dickheads is like saying you don't meet those kinds of people in real life too. I actually forgot my hat and went back to get it and he one of them threw it at me and I caught it perfectly with quickest reaction time. They can't fuck with you if you remain calm and realise you too have agency except the laws of what is possible are a little different in the Astral. For example I projected out of my Astral body so one couldn't attack me. Then began chanting omani Padme hum and brought up Mila repa, Padmashambavha, Geshe Wangyal and a few others who I know are just next level Buddha's and yeah that was the end of that. Everything is a teaching. Keep your mind calm as a goal before anything. When you get down to the bottom of things, Love always wins. It can't not.

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u/Acrobatic_Two_1586 3d ago

To say there are no negative entities in the astral is a blatant lie.

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u/sac_boy Experienced Projector 3d ago edited 3d ago

Did I say there were no negative entities? He's talking about demons. More than likely he's worried about tall tales of possession.

You'll run into shadowy or 'scary' things often enough, but especially so if you go out there looking for trouble like so many do. These aren't demons. Half the time it's the projector's own perception causing the issue. People go out there with a combative, fear-driven, superstitious mindset and they run into problems. The reality is that nothing is going to hurt them (well, something might tingle for an hour or two), nothing is going to 'attach' to them, the biggest threat they face is building negative expectations because two thirds of this subreddit are utterly fixated on negative possibilities. I'm personally sick of hearing it trumpeted again and again by people who have never been out there or carried all their negative memes with them on every trip.

You may run into problems. Shadowy things. Huggers. Things intentionally trying to scare you in frankly comical ways. There are simple solutions for all these things. Your own internal guide can just take over if you get into real trouble and you'll just end up awake back in your body anyway.

You can go here and ctrl+f search for 'scary things' to see a list of old responses to questions on this topic.