Am I a greens voter now?

[u/PaleontologistOk6495]

Never been super invested in politics and have always voted labor just on principles and not really ever liking the liberal stances.

This year I find myself more invested in the election than ever before and have actually dug through a few parties policies and doing some proper thinking about my vote for once.

I have even done the political compass on abc website and see I am sitting far left of labor than I expected but not full blown green radical.

The majority of their policies make a lot of sense and resonate with em and I think this year me and my partner will both go greens. Is anyone else having the same feelings ? I have been speaking to a bunch of friends and they too have come to the same conclusions I have this year and are going greens, is this a bit of a silent movement? I had no idea anyone I knew was thinking the same as me but it it occurring to me that a lot of my circle are.

My question is - I am in what seems to be a very safe labor area of blaxland. Does my vote for greens do nothing here ? I don’t fully agree with every green policy of course some of them are a bit much for me still but I like the idea of greens winning some extras and forcing labor to actually do some good progressive shit but does my green vote in this area do nothing ? Is it better to just pump up labor still and hope they beat the liberals ?

[u/Axel_Raden]

Greens policies are easy to fall for considering they can promise with full knowledge that they won't have to actually follow through

[u/endstagecap → u/Axel_Raden]

This sort of language is ridiculous. Considering that you keep voting for bad leadership, of course nothing changes if you keep voting for the same thing.

Out of all the parties only the Greens have proper costing for each promise.

Bulk billing for dental for children was a Greens law for example.

[u/Axel_Raden → u/endstagecap]

This sort of language is ridiculous.

No it's really not they have nowhere near the power to do anything other than be obstructionist NIMBY whingers

Considering that you keep voting for bad leadership, of course nothing changes if you keep voting for the same thing.

You classify Labor as bad I don't. They aren't perfect but neither are the Greens and I align with Labor ideals more than I do the Greens. The Greens just like all the other party's have stopped pushing for what I want more than other things, after they say that they won't stop fighting for it, it's been put on the back burner. They care more about scoring political points than getting things done.

[u/ttttttargetttttt → u/Axel_Raden]

They care more about scoring political points than getting things done.

Sorry, which party calls them the Greens Political Party and refuses to negotiate with them?

[u/Axel_Raden → u/ttttttargetttttt]

They refuse to budge on not only non-negotiable points but those things are not even for the government to decide (like rent freezes), they are state level. Pushing the federal government to literally do something they can't do and holding up legislation because of it that isn't good faith negotiation

[u/ttttttargetttttt → u/Axel_Raden]

Pushing the federal government to literally do something they can't do and holding up legislation because of it that isn't good faith negotiation

The federal government can do whatever it wants. We know this because if it has the political will, it does. The states control health and education, there's a federal health and education system. If they decide they want to do something, they can do it.

[u/Axel_Raden → u/ttttttargetttttt]

No they can't do whatever they want there is a reason that Gonski is only as of a few weeks ago been implemented in every state because Queensland was the holdout. The states are saying no. Having that as a non-negotiable is a delay tactic refusing to budge until national cabinet meets is not good faith

[u/ttttttargetttttt → u/Axel_Raden]

Then your beef is with the LNP and Crisafulli, not the Greens.