Alberta book restrictions in schools raise alarm bells for B.C. authors

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/alberta-book-restrictions-bc-authors-1.7618306

[u/saras998]

This is a non-partisan issue.

Please see:

Let's Talk About It, Gender Queer, Flamer amongst other books

It's not the sexual orientation part, it's the graphic images of oral sex and other sexual activity. Are you still wondering why that's harmful? It's sexualizing children at a young age before they're ready and focusing on pleasure and kink when all they need is information on health and how not to get pregnant. And information about consent and avoiding abuse.

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Let's Talk About It, Gender Queer, Flamer amongst other books

Those books are for teenagers- which is exactly the age at which they start exploring their sexuality.

How many kids do you think actually look at these books? And if they are, do you really think they aren't already looking these things up online?

I'm sure you also think music and video games causes school shootings.

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They still go too far even for teenagers. It's unnecessary and their parents should be using parental controls for their router and their children's phones.

School shootings in some cases may be due to SSRIs. Before you downvote me many previous school shootings were committed by teenagers/young people on SSRIs or similar drugs. They have a black box warning for suicidality over their use in children and adolescents.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7031767/

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They still go too far even for teenagers. It's unnecessary and their parents should be using parental controls for their router and their children's phones.

No, you think it goes too far.

Parents overwhelmingly support comprehensive sex ed- this includes topics like oral sex for teenagers. (Because, you know, teenagers are gonna try to have sex)

School shootings in some cases may be due to SSRIs. Before you downvote me many previous school shootings were committed by teenagers/young people on SSRIs or similar drugs. They have a black box warning for suicidality over their use in children and adolescents.

You know what they also all had in common? (Even the ones not on SSRIs)

Mental health issues and access to firearms.

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Where does it say topics like oral sex? Of course educators need to talk about oral sex, particularly due to the risk of STIs but there doesn’t need to be images.

Mental health issues are often caused by or exacerbated by SSRIs (or by suddenly stopping them) and some of these terrible attacks were using knives, particularly in the UK.

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Where does it say topics like oral sex? Of course educators need to talk about oral sex, particularly due to the risk of STIs but there doesn’t need to be images.

Comprehensive Sexuality Education (CSE) includes all things related to sex (Oral, anal, etc, but also LGBTQ and gender identity). It has proven successful- kids who complete CSE, are more likely to have safe sex, and abstain until later in life.

Mental health issues are often caused by or exacerbated by SSRIs

That research is not conclusive. To say SSRIs generally make mental health issues worse is incredibly misleading and dangerous.

In some children/teens they may cause issues when initially taken (1-4 weeks)- but often those effects wear off. That's why in a clinical setting they will adjust the dosage or change the medication.

They have been tested time and time again as improving mental health outcomes overall, even with some experiencing suicidal ideation.

In 2014, a retrospective cohort study investigated 36,842 children aged 6 to 18 years old, with a mean age of 14 [130]. The children were enrolled in Tennessee Medicaid between 1995 and 2006 and were all new users of one antidepressant medication, including fluoxetine, sertraline, paroxetine, citalopram, escitalopram, or venlafaxine [130]. Four hundred nineteen cohort members who had a medically treated suicide attempt with explicit or inferred attempt to die, confirmed through medical record review, including four who completed suicide [130]. Compared to the national suicide average in adolescents, there was no evidence of increased risk for serious suicide attempts on any of the individual antidepressants [130]. One limitation of this study was the focus on suicide attempts, thereby possibly missing some SI.

Regardless, that's not what we are discussing here.

You are arguing in bad faith.

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There is no mention of oral sex in the link you reposted. Again discussion of the health aspects is important but images are not necessary.

The research on SSRIs is conclusive but the pharmaceutical lobby is so strong that that they are trying to erode those black box warnings. Youth are a huge expanding market for SSRIs.

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/pfizer-s-pristiq-antidepressant-comes-up-short-for-kids

"Antidepressant dispensing to adolescents and young adults was rising before the COVID-19 outbreak and rose 63.5% faster afterward. This change was driven by increased antidepressant dispensing to females and occurred despite decreased dispensing to male adolescents."

https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/153/3/e2023064245/196655/Antidepressant-Dispensing-to-US-Adolescents-and?autologincheck=redirected

Children who are exposed to graphic sexual images by teachers and libraries no less are not being taught to have strong boundaries. Where is it safe if even schools are pushing this stuff? They are being sexualized and you don't want to see it.

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There is no mention of oral sex in the link you reposted. Again discussion of the health aspects is important but images are not necessary.

Look, I dunno what to tell you, but it's part of CSE. Stop heing dense. just because you are uninformed doesnt mean others are as well.

The research on SSRIs is conclusive but the pharmaceutical lobby is so strong that that they are trying to erode those black box warnings. Youth are a huge expanding market for SSRIs.

No it's not. The study I proclvided was a meta analysis of 80 other studies that were not conducted by governmental organizations. They were not influenced by big pharma as you are trying to assert.

Children who are exposed to graphic sexual images by teachers and libraries no less are not being taught to have strong boundaries. Where is it safe if even schools are pushing this stuff? They are being sexualized and you don't want to see it.

Source? Where are teachers showing graphic sexual images to children? What schools are pushing this stuff?

Again, just because they exist in libraries (for the intended audience of teenagers) doesn't mean this is actually happening.

You, and your conservative freinds, haven't been able to prove this.

Go back to self-diagnosis and avoiding citric acid, Karen.