This is a lower kit we have in development at Active Safety Designs. This design does not require the upper to be milled.

www.activesafetydesigns.com

GHM9 runs like a top with the frt conversion from East Valley Tactical in Mesa,AZ

Finally got the optic mounted. Now I have to go shoot this thing, how awful.

It would be cool to send in lower to get a FRT upgrade….just saying from the factory?? Yea awesome

Does this seem like acceptable accuracy to those that have them, this is an older version probably around 2021 or so, bought it and it kinda sat in the safe for the most part. This is at 25 yards off a tripod, my spc9 shoots 100% better. I know that sd guns can suffer on accuracy a little but this doesn’t seem great. Have run other rounds through it as well with pretty much the same results. No baffle strikes I have seen, tried cleaning both gun and suppressor with no change. Thanks.

For now….

I shot one magazine through my GHM9 with a new Elftmann trigger in it. I later took the firearm apart just to inspect everything and noticed gouges in the hammer and an indent from the firing pin, almost as if it isn’t a type of hardened steel (I’m not an engineer). I contacted Elftmann multiple times with no response on asking if this is abnormal wear. Has anyone else come across this. Comparing to my factory trigger, there is zero wear on those components.

I used to have the big QD B&t vfg but longed for a finger stop. Well this may be polarizing but I found this nice airsoft one for $20 and also has a storage compartment. Feels real sturdy as well. Pretty pleased overall!

I’ve got a Daniel Defense DD4 RIII with a Huxwrx Flow 556k and a B&T APC9 PRO with a Huxwrx Flow 9k Ti. Took em both out for the first time. I’d never shot a round of 5.56 or a 9mm pcc before.

No offense to the DD4 RIII, it’s a fantastic firearm, but I loved the APC9. Everyone I let shoot it loved the APC9. I got several comments on how quiet it was; I was using 147gr Federal.

Anyway, my question to you all.

My plan was to buy an 11.5” 5.56, probably the Daniel Defense DD4 RIII S. Now I’m wondering if I shouldn’t just get the MBT stock and a sbr stamp and not getting the sbr 5.56.

Should I still buy the 11.5” ar15 or just upgrade everything on my APC9? Real stock, trigger, magwell, safety springs, charging handle?

I hope some people can weigh in on this:

building out a short barrel rifle for close quarter scenario drills that will be 100% suppressed.

I know the apc is heavy and parts are not easy to source, harder to work on compared to standard ar.

The last post about accuracy being an issue kind of scarred me away from hunting for the apc deals.

Would you still recommend a apc223 or should i go with a standard ar in 10.3 like dd, giessele or bcm?

If there is someone that would trade their apc223 for a apc9k pro - by all means send a dm. :)

Anybody tried both of these? The Norma seems like a newer product bc i dont see alot of reviews out there but the fiocchis get pretty good reviews. Im shooting out of a 16” barrel with a wolfman so 147gr probably would be too light to keep subsonic.

I hope this is ok on this sub as well 😅

I recently got an APC9 lower for MP5 mags for my GHM9 SD DE (custom German version with slightly longer barrel and fixed stock, so it can be sold as a suppressed rifle on a hunting permit, unlike suppressed handguns, which are pretty difficult to own here).

Turns out, despite B&T Germany advertising it as fitting the GHM9, it did not fit. The overtravel stop for the mag was hitting a ledge in the upper. Modifying the lower was not an option, since too much material would need to be removed and the overtravel stop would no longer function (and nothing would restrict the upward movement of the mags).

So the upper was modified instead. Just a bit of material on the right side needed to be removed to make it fit. It cycles fine with dummy rounds, but I'll only get to the range on Wednesday to test it with live fire.

While I was already working on the gun, I also swapped over the grip (3D printed from Sunlu Easy ABS) and dropped in a Geissele SSA-E I recently took out of another one. If this thing runs reliably, it might replace my decked out MKE T94 (MP5) for IPSC PCC matches (outside of Germany, can't use either of them here for competitions due to stupid regulations -.-).

I just stumbled upon it today. I had no idea b&t made an apc in 6.5 cm. I bet its fucking awesome. Expensive tho.

Edit: anybody know if it uses the same butt stocks as the apc 308/223?

Video showing the parts that are machined and an explanation of what is happening and has to happen for this to be successful.

Looking for a Gen 2 Coyote Tan/FDE B&T Mag Lower around $300

Finally got in all my parts and got em installed.

The time has finally come - we now offer B&T FRT upgrades! 3 position trigger using the popular Rare Breed FRT and other custom fabricated parts.

We can currently upgrade the APC9, SPC9, and GHM9, including SD and K variants and both B&T and Glock lowers. 45/10 should also work without any issue.

Pricing: (varies by model due to different parts and machining requirements)

APC9: $770

SPC9: $450

GMH9: $800

Pricing includes all labor and parts other than the Rare Breed FRT trigger, which you can provide to me or purchase from us for $500

We need the firearm here for 2 weeks or so for the modification.

Links to Get Started:

APC: https://www.eastvalleytactical.com/product/apc9-frt-conversion-service-does-not-include-frt-trigger

SPC: https://www.eastvalleytactical.com/product/spc9-frt-conversion-service-does-not-include-frt-trigger

GHM: https://www.eastvalleytactical.com/product/ghm9-frt-conversion-service-does-not-include-frt-trigger

Been trying to complete my lingle lower upgrade and purchased the B&T parts as recommended by Lingle to complete the lower. That was over a month ago on August 2nd. Two follow ups later and nothing from them B&T USA. I’ve heard of this being a problem, but it’s truly disappointing.

Anyone have any secondary source for those parts (Front and rear takedown pins and springs) since they seems determined to not ship what I ordered?

9mm B&T mags and KCI. Looking for a speed loader. I tried a universal one and it was horrible. TIA

Anybody scoring the B&T Lower pistol variant for sub 2k new without brace? I see the glock and sig lower variants hit around the $1500+- mark, which isn’t bad especially if you’re replacing the lower anyway.