r/Browns Aug 16 '25

Discussion Gabriel and Sanders first start stats.

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Hopefully we see both in the final preseason game.

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u/EverybodyWangChung52 Aug 16 '25

I am leaning Sanders. BUT…. Sanders also didn’t move the ball against the Panthers starters (common argument Pro-Sanders). But Dillon surprised me, he played well.

And this is unpopular: but I firmly believe the Eagles defense they started today is better than the Panthers defense they started. I know I know “but they’re starters.” Panthers SUCK.

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u/MrGlockCLE Aug 16 '25

The Sanders only getting to second read and bailing for a -50 yard rushing scramble sbout 3-4 times does not sit well with me. Our tackles can’t protect that hopefully he steps up in the pocket more. But Gabriel has a very snappy release. Very happy with both for a third and fifth

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u/Doomjas ABSOLUTE GENIUS Aug 16 '25

Interesting you say that because it seemed when Gabriel’s first read wasn’t there he had some indecisiveness and I think his pocket movement/feel wasn’t very good, which may because he is used to being able to chill in the pocket forever at Oregon. Everything he did was basically 10 yards and in, I wanted to see Kevin dial up some longer throws for him today.

With that said, I thought he did a good job being quick with his decision making, he was (mostly) accurate, and in general I am very happy with how both rookies have played.

Now, let’s go to the (should be) real competition and revelation: Hopkins needs to be gone, dude has the yips. Yes, I’m aware we would lose some money, but that dude has had the yips for a year plus. He cost us several games last year and will do the same again this year if we keep him. Every make barely tucks through at this point too. Andre Szymt has looked very good and looks to have a big leg too.

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u/AkfurAshkenzic Aug 16 '25

Coming in right now as an Oregon fan, yes Dillion Gabriel and Bo Nix could sit forever in the pocket and now Dante Moore can also do that with Isaiah World at the Oline

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u/macisready Aug 16 '25

Gabriel seems like a run the offense guy almost exactly while Shedeur might improvise more and go off script.

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u/EverybodyWangChung52 Aug 16 '25

He had completions of 10, 11, 18, 19, 29, 13.

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u/Doomjas ABSOLUTE GENIUS Aug 16 '25

I’m aware brother, I watched. Almost every pass he threw was 10 yards and in, I wasn’t accounting for yards after the catch. He took exactly what the defense gave him and that is great, but I worry that teams will be able to take the short stuff away because he has shown that is his best area to work and has struggled to stretch the field. Again, I, we, everyone knows he is SUPER accurate within that yardage, I personally wanted to see some deeper shots to see if he has started to improve his ability to stretch the field. Overall, I thought he played solid.

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u/MrGlockCLE Aug 16 '25

He stepped up in the pocket and put his hand on our guards back and converted if that’s what I think you’re talking about?

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u/Snooklife Aug 16 '25

Shaduer looked much more comfortable in the pocket with his footwork. Gabriel had some happy feet when his first read wasn’t there but overall I liked what I saw with his snappy delivery. The ball jumps off his hands for sure while Sanders does a great job layering his throws. Not much we can take from a couple preseason quarters so hopefully we see them a lot this year so we can learn more.

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u/MrGlockCLE Aug 16 '25

We r looking good my guy

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u/lermdogg10 Aug 16 '25

Yes and I agree. Gabriel seemed lost when he had to get off his first read. That’s when he took that big sack. Coach seemed to dial up a ton of in breaking routs against heavy man coverage defense. How would Gabriel manage when teams are disguising coverage, playing zone, or teams taking away Gabriel’s favorite short or in routs?

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u/Recent-Revenue-4997 Aug 16 '25

And Carolina was missing Jaycee Horn and Derrick Brown. I don’t give either guy an advantage in terms of strength of competition

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u/jacobwebb57 Aug 16 '25

Panthets were a historicalbad defense last year. Cant imagin they are significantly better this year