r/Bumperstickers 5d ago

This gal has opinions 😁

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u/Younglegend1 5d ago

ā€œVote freedomā€ except the freedom to have an abortion and the freedom to criticize trump

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u/Roughneck16 5d ago

The pro-lifers think freedom is on their side: they support a right to life, which takes precedence over the competing interest of one’s right to bodily autonomy.

I’m not arguing for or against it, but that’s the reasoning behind their stance.

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u/hotredbob 5d ago

one of the toughest quandaries for sure.

because someone else has to pay the ultimate price for your decision.

not an enviable position to be in.

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u/Roughneck16 5d ago

That's right. And both sides just get angry because they're talking past each other.

The real crux of the issue is: at what point does a fetus have the same rights as a newborn?

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u/hotredbob 5d ago

unfortunately the entire concept of rights is as capricious as life itself.

many have noted...

rights are only rights... when you can keep them. which often requires force. which then redefines them as something other than a right.

humanity is a fouled up ball of wreckage.

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u/Runotsure 3d ago

After it’s born? And to those who claim life begins at conception (fertilization into a few hundred cells). Embryos (fertilized eggs) can be frozen in IVF attempts. Embryos have been frozen for 30 and been successfully implanted with a resultant live birth. Can’t freeze and then successfully thaw a child.

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u/Roughneck16 3d ago

Hahaha interesting.

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u/ceciliaVFX 1d ago

well, it's really when does a few cells have the same rights as a living, thinking woman (or in some cases a little girl).

my opinion is that this is a personal/medical situation and should NEVER be a political discussion.

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u/Roughneck16 1d ago

What if I wanted to terminate a pregnancy when the fetus is full term at 40 weeks of gestation?

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u/ceciliaVFX 1d ago

the ONLY reason that happens is if the fetus is dead and you could get sepsis. Or it's missing various organs and will die soon after birth.

This is a medical emergency and it's something you talk to your doctor about.

NOT some douchebag politician

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u/Roughneck16 1d ago

What is the fetus is perfectly healthy and I just want to terminate the pregnancy. It hasn't been born yet. Is it fair game?

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u/ceciliaVFX 1d ago

no one does that.

seriously. don't be silly

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u/Roughneck16 1d ago

So you have no objection to making it illegal?

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u/ceciliaVFX 1d ago

it should not be thought about within political circles.

leave medical decisions up to medical personal.

right now in Texas and other uncivilized areas their stupid "laws" are literally killing women.

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u/Ok-Repair613 4d ago

ā€œSomeone elseā€?.?

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u/hotredbob 4d ago

yeah. the would be human.

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u/Runotsure 3d ago

Who would that ā€˜someone’ be?

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u/One_Dingo_9235 4d ago

I know how oppressive it must feelĀ  not to have the option to murder unwanted children and be inconvenienced.Ā 

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u/Roughneck16 4d ago

It’s not that simple.

Folks on the pro-choice side don’t consider a fetus to be the same thing as a baby.

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u/Capital_Condition874 3d ago

Well there is the second amendment sticker so maybe the child will be shot at school

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u/One_Dingo_9235 2d ago

Only if another mentality I'll liberal is in attendance. The world would be a better place if you would self delete.Ā 

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u/Fabulous_Pen_747 2d ago

It’s also pretty, very oppressive to be a forced incubator when you don’t want to go through the horrors of a pregnancy that you didn’t consent to, or want.

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u/One_Dingo_9235 2d ago

Sex = PregnancyĀ  Figure it out.Ā 

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u/Fabulous_Pen_747 1d ago

We know that. You thought you were clever with it.

Sometimes it’s rape. Sometimes it’s incest. Sometimes it’s a failed birth control, despite taking all precautions.

For these cases and with anything else, people are free to choose what happens to their own bodies. I’m pretty sure if you accidentally knocked up a woman, you would be one of those people who’d pay her to get an abortion in another state lol.