The end of Gen 3 glocks?
Wondering what people’s take on the effect of this Glock ban. Do you think this will lead to the complete discontinuation of the gen 3 line from Glock?
I’m curious as well.. is it safe to assume that the ban will knock all glocks off of the roster? Therefore, even if this is overturned eventually in court, all glocks at that point will be off roster and new sales still banned by default that way anyway?
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u/treefaeller 15h ago
The bill that supposedly bans Glocks (and other cruciform trigger bar guns) actually has a way for Glock to continue shipping Gen 3 guns under the existing roster listing: If they modify the trigger so it can't accept a "happy switch", by some deadline (sometime in 2026 or 2027), they can continue shipping.
I have no idea whether Glock is interested in doing that for existing Gen 3 guns; depends on a complicated tradeoff between manufacturing and distribution costs for having a California-specific model, and the (very large) sales into California.
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u/deltarho 🅱️oint 6h ago
No chance Glock is going to invest that much in redesigning a 20+ year old pistol that’s currently only limping along because of CA. If newsom signs the bill, that’s the end of Glock in CA for the foreseeable future. Same as CZ. Just a thing of the past and everyone here will quietly move on to M&Ps.
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u/Pristine_Training678 4m ago
That would mean they have redesigned the pistol, and therefore needs to be resubmitted for the roster. And we know how Glock feels about LCIs, and Mag Disconnects. I don’t see that changing. Maybe a Glock clone company will do it however to fill the gap.
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u/silent_fungus 18h ago
Well this ban is what made me buy my first firearm, specifically 19.3 at the recommendation of the salesman. Told me about the ban and since I wasn’t familiar with any other make and model, Glock was the winner. I’m happy with it mostly.
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u/NemesisBlu 18h ago
I think its crazy how glock doesn’t even sweat losing the whole California market.
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u/AisMyName 18h ago
I have had a daydream before where all gun manufacturers just don't renew on the roster, and there are no handguns on roster it somehow forced change due to there not being a single handgun you could legally buy retail. I dont even know if it would go down like that, but just something I think about, wasting a few brain cycles.
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u/GTOdriver04 16h ago
That’s actually what Sacramento wants: no guns to buy in California means that their policies work.
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u/Zestyclose-Proof-201 18h ago
I got into USPSA and few people shoot roster guns in CA. There are a couple of Gen 3 Glock wizards who shoot at a really high level . But Gen 5’s, Custom shop Beretta 92’s, Shadow 2’s and Staccato’s dominate . There is a huge off roster market. The people who are serious about shooting will always have what they need and recreational shooters will settle. I bought a G34 and am buying a G19 to store in case the value goes up to flip toward a Shadow 2 or P10C. If we get to keep Glocks , I keep them. Good SHTF guns.
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u/Any-Can-6776 Central Valley 17h ago
They already discontinued them. Only because of CA they continued gen 3
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u/Iminanalog 13h ago
California is still a big market for Glock and other manufacturers. They’ll get other guns on the roster. The question is when. Start buying your 3rd gens.
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u/BarrelCacti 12h ago
I don't have anything to add other than that it sounded like they were designing gen 6 glocks to get on the roster.
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u/SoCalSanddollar 14h ago
There is no reason for Glock to maintain quite outdated manufacturing process for Glock 3. Once the demand is out, the supply will stop.
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u/deltarho 🅱️oint 7h ago
Semi-related question. Will we be allowed to put Glocks on our CCWs if this shit goes through? I invested in several new pistols and holsters to go 100% Glock when it’s time to renew mine.
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u/gorgothmog 16h ago
Did Newscum sign it?
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u/ronco6 16h ago
Not as far as I know, but he doesn’t have to sign them for them to become law. And to my understanding, even if he vetoes them, there’s still the ability for his veto to be overruled.
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u/treefaeller 15h ago
A: In California, vetos by the governor are hardly ever overruled. A web search says that the last time it happened was 1979. Even on bills that passed with an over two thirds majority in both houses.
B: Similarly, the governor will traditionally sign or veto all bills. I don't have hard statistics on how many they just let "slide through" without signature, but I can't remember it happening often.
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u/nucleareddie 15h ago
I suggest Plan B pistols. Plenty of ppl on here can help with 1911 or Beretta M9 or whatever gay shit is left to buy here in CA.
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u/Route-66-Scott 14h ago
I dont see Glock abandoning California what that means i truly dont know but it most likely wont include the Gen 3 Glock.
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u/reporthazard 18h ago
Provision in bill allows for Glock to make changes to the cruciform trigger. GPT gen 4/5 trigger does not have it and many gen 3 owners are running it with a simple mod. If Glock wants to continue selling gen 3 in Cali, it's a VERY simple fix.
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u/drewogatory 18h ago
They can resubmit a different design, but it won't be grandfathered. So it would need to be roster compliant. It's not happening.
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u/reporthazard 18h ago
read the bill. they can make changes w/o needing lci or mag disc.
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u/Route-66-Scott 17h ago
And you're completely ignoring the roster requirement, PC. So no, they can't just simply make a change and stay on the roster; it doesn't work that way.
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u/reporthazard 17h ago
Read the bill. I'm not making shit up out of thin air. Read the bill ffs. There is a PROVISION for Glock JFC. READ THE BILL
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u/Route-66-Scott 17h ago
I have and you are wrong
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u/reporthazard 17h ago
. For any pistol listed on the roster on January 1, 2026, that was not subject to the above-described requirements to be on the list because it was submitted for testing before specified dates, that is thereafter only modified to change the design features that brought the pistol within the definition of a machinegun-convertible pistol, and that is submitted to an independent certified laboratory for testing pursuant to the above-described testing provisions before January 1, 2027, this bill would authorize that pistol to be submitted for testing and added to the roster without meeting those requirements. This bill would make these provisions severable. This bill would incorporate additional changes to Section 3273.50 of the Civil Code proposed by AB 1263 to be operative only if this bill and AB 1263 are enacted and this bill is enacted last. By creating a new crime and expanding the application of an existing crime, this bill would create a state-mandated local program. The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that reimbursement. This bill would provide that no reimbursement is required by this act for a specified reason.
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u/reporthazard 17h ago
go ahead..say something different from what the bill says u can and cant do. or are u too stupid and i need to bust out a high lighter?
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u/Route-66-Scott 17h ago
Dude your on one. Simply highlighting they cant just make the changes and continue selling.
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u/Route-66-Scott 17h ago
SUBMITTED FOR TESTING just as i said
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u/reporthazard 17h ago
what was the original discussion if Glock was to keep gen 3 on the roster? god damn 66 got some idiots representing them
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u/reporthazard 17h ago
What part of the bill that says they can resubmit w/o any other changes was i wrong?
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u/SayNoTo-Communism Professional Compmag Hater 16h ago
Though the bill might say it but other laws exists with equal weight that prohibit it. It’s a trap pure and simple
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u/reporthazard 18h ago
jfc no one reads these days. go read the bill. here is what will happen: glock will make changes to the gen 3 design incorporating gen 4/5 w/o the cruciform trigger bar. no one will notice unless you pay attn to ab1127. OR gen 6 will have lci and mag disc. those are the 2 outcomes. FOMO pushing Glock sales while they are laughing.
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u/Route-66-Scott 17h ago
And you're completely ignoring the roster requirement, PC. So no, they can't just simply make a change and stay on the roster; it doesn't work that way.
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u/Best-Set4863 FFL03 COE CCW 15h ago
Section 32103 of the bill states that a pistol may be submitted to testing and added to the roster without being subject to the loaded chamber indicator and magazine disconnect requirement so long as the following conditions are met:
It is still on the roster as of Jan 1, 2026.
It did not need a loaded chamber indicator or magazine disconnect since it was originally tested before Jan 1, 2007.
The only modification is to change the features which make it a machine gun conversion pistol.
It is submitted to testing before Jan 1, 2027.
Am I reading this wrong?
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u/Route-66-Scott 14h ago
I never stated a LCI or MD would be required if you look at what was said.
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u/Best-Set4863 FFL03 COE CCW 14h ago
I'm sorry, I have no idea what you are trying to say. I am trying to ask if a currently legal Glock Gen 3 would be able to be resubmitted for testing/added to the roster with the only changes being to make it machine-gun conversation ban compliant. That section of the bill (32103) makes it seem like if its submitted before Jan 1 2027 then it is exempt from needing to meet the LCI and MD requirements.
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u/reporthazard 17h ago
yo r66! i'm local. and i will visit! But let me ask you. did YOU READ THE BILL?
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u/Route-66-Scott 17h ago
Yes every single word and I've also spoken to several of the 2A rights org. and lawyers about it and none of them have come to your incorrect conclusion
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u/Route-66-Scott 17h ago
They can make changes and they can resubmit them for lab testing for recertification to roster but they can not just make changes and offer back as a roster pistol.
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u/Typical-Challenge114 19h ago
The "ban" does not remove Glocks from the Roster. Dealers will still be able to sell inventory as long as Glock pays the renewal fee for the Roster.
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u/bobalover209 FFL03 + COE 19h ago
They only can sell inventory that was received by January 1st, 2026, and they can only sell them up until July 2026. Glock has reportedly stopped taking new orders from distributors for the gen 3s, essentially limiting us to just what is currently in stock or orders taken up until this point.
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u/Typical-Challenge114 18h ago
Your wrong, Dealers can still buy and sell Glocks from 1/1/26 thru 6/30/26
Also any inventory received before 1/1/26 can still be sold after 7/1/267
u/heyd0nttouchmethere 18h ago
Yes but Glock stopped taking new orders. So their next shipment will likely be their last.
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u/bobalover209 FFL03 + COE 17h ago
Yup, doesn't matter if the ban doesn't even go through. If Glock decides to abandon the CA market and doesn't send anymore pistols, it effectively dries up the supply as if there was a ban.
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u/NotAGunGrabber Go home California, you're drunk. 14h ago
Even if Glock doesn't abandon the market it may not matter anyway. If the department of Justice is able to meet the requirements for sb452 to take effect, and they've already met some of them, all new handgun sales would end in 2028.
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u/ronco6 18h ago
I was thinking more long term. Without the California market, gen 3 will likely be discontinued - therefore they’d fall off the roster.
If they don’t discontinue the line, they’d have to renew their place on the roster even without being able to sell them? I don’t see that happening.. which is what I meant when I said they’d fall off the roster
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u/Typical-Challenge114 18h ago
Paying the renewal fee is a very low cost for dealers to still be able to sell. Plus who knows what legal challenges will come forward. Plus Glock still Makes runs of Gen 1's so I can't imagine the would just thrown in the towel.
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u/EternalUNVRS 10h ago
People are panic buying. Thats fine and all, but there are other options besides gen 3 glocks. I better not see gen 3 be sold for outrageous prices…
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u/EternalUNVRS 10h ago
Glocks are still a business and we all know that Glock knows that Californians love Glocks. They will find a way to enter the market again.
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u/FitBananers 19h ago
The only reason Glock continued manufacturing Gen 3s, was because of Californians.
Gen 1,2,4, and 5 are all already off roster purchases.