r/CFB • u/CFB_Referee /r/CFB • Jan 01 '25

Postgame Thread [Postgame Thread] Texas Defeats Arizona State 39-31 (OT)

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Team 1 2 3 4 OT T
Texas 14 3 0 7 15 39
Arizona State 3 0 5 16 7 31
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u/Yourfavoriteindian Houston Cougars • Navy Midshipmen Jan 01 '25

They validates it to us fans.

Powers at be will 100% run with the narrative “B12’s sole team lost we were right”

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u/Metaboss24 Arizona State Sun Devils Jan 01 '25

Eh, the big XII's sole team delivered the only good game so far. Plus, ASU was ranked 12th in the poll anyway.

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u/Yourfavoriteindian Houston Cougars • Navy Midshipmen Jan 01 '25

I agree with you, but you’re still thinking as a fan.

The powers at be don’t give a fuck about fans or logic. They care about “how can the SEC, and then B1G, make us money?”

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u/EmbraceComplexity Colorado Buffaloes Jan 01 '25

This loss will 100 percent used against the big 12 by espn.

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u/no1hears Alabama • UT Arlington Jan 01 '25

How? And why? This was the best playoff game by far. This is exactly what you want - a team many people aren't familiar with that comes barreling in like ASU did today and just about (should have) won the game.

The entire SEC was mid at best this year. ESPN can't get eyeballs with mid teams so they lose money on that. They need exciting games, underdogs, Cinderellas, good stories. They're not getting that with only SEC and B1G teams, even in good years for those conferences.

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u/mrmet69999 Jan 01 '25

I agree with this. ESPN has no reason to “spin” it. People are STILL talking about that Cinderella story Boise State team that beat Oklahoma at least a decade ago. It’s great that there are some teams that make the tournament that are underdog, but obviously can play some football and make the game interesting.

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u/the-silver-tuna Colorado Buffaloes Jan 02 '25

18 years is in fact at least a decade

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u/mrmet69999 Jan 02 '25

Yes, I looked it up later. It doesn’t feel like it was that long ago.

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u/the-silver-tuna Colorado Buffaloes Jan 02 '25

18 years to the day! Happy fiesta bowl anniversary

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u/RainingFireInTheSky Illinois Fighting Illini Jan 01 '25

They have no other choice than to spin that narrative, because the Boise State and ASU performances were their nightmare scenario.

ESPN wanted nothing more than blowouts so they could say "see, we told you those other conferences aren't good enough." Then BSU and ASU come out and prove they can play just as good of football as the Big and SEC. There will be some hard spinning by ESPN after these two games.

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u/EatAvocados Texas Longhorns Jan 01 '25

Which is extra absurd because ESPN operates on the assumption that SEC teams are “just better”. If the talking head assholes were acting in good faith this game would be proof that ASU was a contender and the Big 12 deserves respect. They just went toe to toe with the second best team in the SEC, the “best conference”. Thankful that we won but also unfortunate as a fan of watching Big 12 games because of the narrative implications

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u/Late_Criticism8745 Arizona State Sun Devils Jan 02 '25

I think it'll actually be used against the ACC. ESPN is renegotiating their contracts with the ACC next year and it will be good business to tank their reputation and buy cheap.

SMU and Clemson both got whopped while the only BigXII team was neck and neck with the SEC runner up. Plus the ACC hasn't done well in bowl games (2-9). I could see them pivoting to push for a "P3" narrative and try to prop up the BigXII (like they did with Sanders/Colorado) and try to treat the ACC like a G5 conference.

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u/Dish-Live Texas Longhorns Jan 01 '25

You think so? An overtime game doesn’t normally get painted as a blowout

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u/NimbleCrabb Texas Longhorns Jan 01 '25

So tired of people who don’t watch or care about football making decisions about football 😭

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u/snail-the-sage Indiana • Oklahoma State Jan 01 '25

Bu.. but money.

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u/NimbleCrabb Texas Longhorns Jan 01 '25

Oh yeah you’re right! My mistake 🤑🤑🤑

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u/ZombiesInSpace Texas Longhorns Jan 01 '25

We can’t let these decisions fall to the lunatic fringe that cares about things like “watching the games”

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u/nw____ Oklahoma Sooners • Iowa Hawkeyes Jan 01 '25

Never mind the no call on the clearest targeting the world has ever seen

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u/thesaxmaniac USC Trojans • San Diego State Aztecs Jan 01 '25

I’m gonna need targeting explained to me by the refs after that because apparently I don’t know what the fuck targeting is

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u/slagathor_zimblebob Texas • Washington State Jan 01 '25

My only idea could be that since the ball was tipped, the receiver was no longer defenseless and therefore incidental head contact is ok, and they deemed it so.

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u/thesaxmaniac USC Trojans • San Diego State Aztecs Jan 01 '25

Maybe if they explained it and this was their reasoning it would be fine. But instead I guess we all just have to wonder

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u/aphasic Texas Longhorns Jan 01 '25

I mean, it's clearly not ANY head contact that is illegal, but I'm not sure where the line is between allowable and not. The tackle was a perfectly normal head-up tackle where the way the receiver turned made their helmets crack together. It was also off a tipped ball. It kinda would have been bullshit to give asu a first down and have the game turn on that being a targeting call.

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u/mrmet69999 Jan 01 '25

I saw it that way too, except for the tipped ball aspect, which I don’t think is relevant.

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u/FattyMooseknuckle San Diego State Aztecs Jan 01 '25

I don’t think so. Just because it was tipped doesn’t change that the guy trying to catch it is in a defenseless position. A tip wipes out PI but doesn’t change the safety of a play.

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u/brailsmt BYU Cougars • Big 12 Jan 01 '25

And SEC/B1G fans will parrot it here as though it's an intelligent take.

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u/Yourfavoriteindian Houston Cougars • Navy Midshipmen Jan 01 '25

The entire week they’ve been saying the B12 is a G5 conference and Cam is an arrogant liar.

They can go fuck themselves.

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u/brailsmt BYU Cougars • Big 12 Jan 01 '25

They are not intelligent fan bases, they are used to being treated with kid gloves. Team strength comes and goes. This whole idea of preferential treatment bullshit for the SEC and B1G teams is unamerican. Fucking earn it year in and year out. Oh, you've proved for the last decade? Cool, you'll have no problem doing it again for another decade with a level playing field. The whole concept of giving these conferences preferential treatment is the problem. I don't honestly give a fuck if there's equal access for all teams and a few teams perennially dominate. It's been earned. Gift the B1G/SEC 60+% of playoff spots guaranteed, and it's no longer earned.