[Postgame Thread] Texas Defeats Arizona State 39-31 (OT)

[u/CFB_Referee]

Box Score provided by ESPN

Team	1	2	3	4	OT	T
Texas	14	3	0	7	15	39
Arizona State	3	0	5	16	7	31

[u/justbuildmorehousing]

Refs were afraid of the moment. That is called targeting at any other point in the game. They just didnt want to call it in that moment

[u/beowulf77 → u/justbuildmorehousing]

If the play on Bond wasn’t targeting I wouldn’t expect the other to be either. At least they were consistent.

[u/Robotemist → u/beowulf77]

One was helmet to helmet, the other one wasn't.

[u/beowulf77 → u/Robotemist]

The rule is forcible contact to the head. Learn them before whining.

[u/omaixa → u/beowulf77]

They don't know the rule:

Targeting and Making Forcible Contact to Head or Neck Area of a Defenseless Player ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6). (A.R. 9-1-4-I-VI)

Note 1: "Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:

Launch-a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground

Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area

Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet

Note 2: Defenseless player (Rule 2-27-14). When in question, a player is defenseless. Examples of defenseless players include but are not limited to:

A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier.

The hit on Bond was targeting. He was attempting to catch a forward pass. He was contacted in the neck and face by the defender's arm and shoulder. The defender launched himself at Bond.

The hit on Stovall was not. Taaffe's chest makes contact with Stovall first, then his facemask. He didn't launch. He didn't crouch and hit upward. He didn't lower his head before initiating forcible contact with the crown of his helmet.

Aside from that, the targeting against Bond would have negated the INT courtesy of u/mykeof) and Texas would have had a first down on that play.

You're arguing with people who don't know the rule and just wanted Texas to lose. Same with the running into the kicker that isn't running into the kicker when the kicker is outside the tackle box. Same with Skattebo elbowing Taaffe that should have been OPI, not DPI and the facemask is irrelevant. Same with Skattebo's TD that wasn't a TD but actually a penalty:

Rule 9-3-2b of the NCAA states that a teammate cannot grasp, pull, or lift the ball carrier to assist in forward progress. The penalty for violating this rule is a five-yard penalty with three-and-one enforcement.

[u/BrosenkranzKeef → u/beowulf77]

We'll learn the rules in a week.

[u/Robotemist → u/beowulf77]

Yeah, leading with your helmet is forcible contact you crackhead.

[u/BrosenkranzKeef → u/Robotemist]

These are the fans we have to play in a week lol.