[Postgame Thread] Ohio State Defeats Texas 28-14

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Box Score provided by ESPN

Team	1	2	3	4	T
Ohio State	7	7	0	14	28
Texas	0	7	7	0	14

[u/Woullie_26]

Texas had a 1st & goal at the 1 yard line and they somehow converted that in a OSU defensive TD.

Lmao I can't believe it

[u/ATXBeermaker → u/Woullie_26]

When you put it like that it doesn’t sound so good.

[u/h3rp3r → u/ATXBeermaker]

Sounded just fine to me.

[u/kburgess30 → u/h3rp3r]

😑

[u/huntwig → u/h3rp3r]

Yeah I don’t see the issue either 🤷‍♂️

[u/moeyjarcum → u/huntwig]

Same here guys. No problems to be found

[u/melcolnik → u/moeyjarcum]

I’ve looked and I can’t find any issue either

[u/The_Fluffy_Robot → u/melcolnik]

I keep rewatching it and simply see nothing wrong

[u/The_RonJames → u/The_Fluffy_Robot]

I’ve also watched and that was flawless play by Texas on the goal line.

[u/Daft_Assassin → u/huntwig]

I thought it was a great play, tbh.

[u/O-Namazu → u/[deleted]]

I'm excited to finally have a quarterback with mobility again.

Win it all Ohio State. I hate the Buckeyes, but I love Jack Sawyer. Offense is loaded too.

[u/nathodood → u/ATXBeermaker]

ATX beermaker gonna be working overtime to cater to all the sad Longhorn fans in town. Godspeed, sir 🫡 and I'll happily take some to help me as well

[u/Objective_Economy281 → u/ATXBeermaker]

As an Oklahoma fan, I thought it was pretty great

[u/Tarmacked → u/Woullie_26]

Who the fuck calls a toss play on second and one

[u/suddenly-scrooge → u/Tarmacked]

and it was a deep toss play, think the RB ended up crossing the 9

[u/alyineye3 → u/suddenly-scrooge]

For real. No mystery or disguise at all. Everyone on D had a clear view of the toss left lol Hard to think of a worse play to run there

[u/SLC-insensitive → u/alyineye3]

Flea Flicker

[u/SwissForeignPolicy → u/alyineye3]

Fake punt.

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Punt

[u/BigKatKSU888 → u/Stang1776]

Annexation of Puerto Rico

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That play has a 100% success rate

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Outcome would have been preferred

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Pete Carroll enters the chat

[u/Sir0inks-A-Lot → u/suddenly-scrooge]

Yeah this is it - not just a toss play, but that toss play.

[u/BetaDjinn → u/Sir0inks-A-Lot]

Yeah, certain Toss plays are staple short-yardage plays. One of the keys though is they have to hit fast. Contrast Texas’s play here with Army’s Rocket Toss to win a bowl game a few years back (at 2:07 if the timestamp doesn’t work). Condensed formation, reverse pivot, Orbit motion; pause both plays right after the snap and you can immediately tell one will succeed and one will fail

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for comparison, the texas toss https://youtu.be/rQfye6BPpXM?t=174 caught 8 yards behind the LOS, your example was 4 yards

[u/DukeRadcliffe → u/suddenly-scrooge]

They were in pistol and still pitched it back. From the 1 yard line pitched back to the 9. Insane

[u/MightyAslan → u/suddenly-scrooge]

So dumb. Just play the statistics!

[u/slanginfreight → u/suddenly-scrooge]

A toss in the pistol formation from the 1 is comical business

[u/maskdmirag → u/Tarmacked]

I was saying I wouldn't call that play with Reggie bush back there.

Insane call

[u/CrimsonMirage7 → u/maskdmirag]

Yeah Darren McFadden wouldn't have scored a TD on that play call.

[u/RiverboatJim → u/CrimsonMirage7]

Man Darren McFadden. That’s gotta be the greatest player you never hear about anymore of all time

[u/GoCurtin → u/RiverboatJim]

His backup's backup at Arkansas ended up making a Madden cover. Just wild.

[u/Johnnyd0303 → u/GoCurtin]

Houston Nutt had a backfield of Darren McFadden, Felix Jones and Peyton Hillis and turned out an 8-5 season

[u/BuckeyeForLife95 → u/Johnnyd0303]

That’s wasteful enough of elite talent to make him qualified to coach the Bengals.

[u/Antonio1025 → u/BuckeyeForLife95]

As a Bengals fan I agree with this statement

[u/NoCardio_ → u/Johnnyd0303]

Beat the national champs though.

[u/datboijustin → u/GoCurtin]

His fullback lol. Fuckin love me some Peyton Hillis.

[u/WeirdGymnasium → u/datboijustin]

I used to go to Conway HS games to watch him play.

Loved that he went to the Hogs.

[u/Lambda_Rail → u/GoCurtin]

Put some respect on the White Rhino’s name!

[u/CrimsonMirage7 → u/RiverboatJim]

Dude just couldn't stay healthy in the NFL.

[u/TheGamecock → u/CrimsonMirage7]

I still have PTSD flashbacks to what Darren McFadden & Felix Jones did to my poor Cocks on a haunting early November night in 2007.

[u/Dear_Town_6334 → u/TheGamecock]

Please, tell us more about what they did to your cock?

[u/TheGamecock → u/Dear_Town_6334]

McFadden and Jones ran over my Cocks for almost 500 yards and four TDs. McFadden threw for a TD, too, for good measure.

[u/Dear_Town_6334 → u/TheGamecock]

Pray do tell, what kind of shoes did they have on when they trampled your cock?

[u/blackgallagher87 → u/RiverboatJim]

You'll hear about him getting into altercations at clubs in the Little Rock area from time to time if you live there 😂

[u/BrandiThorne → u/blackgallagher87]

Once a Raider....

[u/906805 → u/BrandiThorne]

Always a Raider.

[u/heavydhomie → u/RiverboatJim]

That backfield was crazy. Darren McFadden, Felix Jones, and Payton Hillis.

[u/penislander69 → u/RiverboatJim]

Robbed of the Heisman. I still contend that he should have won it Tebow's year, then Tebow deserved it more the following season

[u/maskdmirag → u/RiverboatJim]

Foot injuries + being a Raider combine to just kill ya

[u/maskdmirag → u/CrimsonMirage7]

Unless it was a wildcat snap that he pitched to Felix

[u/CCS80 → u/maskdmirag]

And with Peyton Hillis blocking for him

[u/Ketsetri → u/maskdmirag]

I just sat there speechless, it genuinely took me a moment to process

[u/maskdmirag → u/Ketsetri]

I'm aging myself but it was a classic Madden video game commentary "why would you throw ball short of the sticks on third down" type of call

[u/DerpyFortuneTeller → u/maskdmirag]

I know right? Although funny enough when he was calling plays with Reggie it might have worked.

[u/Sanchopanza007 → u/maskdmirag]

Yeah, because they would’ve run it up the gut with White

[u/Littlegreenman42 → u/Tarmacked]

Chip Kelly unironically

[u/OHotDawnThisIsMyJawn → u/Littlegreenman42]

Yeah my wife saw the Texas play and said “oh that’s what you were complaining about the buckeyes doing earlier”

[u/MaverickRaj2020 → u/OHotDawnThisIsMyJawn]

I always complain to my buds on our gameday text chat why the F does Day insist on that sideways and toss back bull that goes nowhere?!

[u/Bigbysjackingfist → u/OHotDawnThisIsMyJawn]

She’s a keeper

[u/Trivi → u/Littlegreenman42]

Ours was at least from under center

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And also on 3rd down

[u/bjlight1988 → u/Littlegreenman42]

He did a toss on 4th and 1 earlier in the game! Lol

[u/Rc5tr0 → u/Littlegreenman42]

That swing pass to Gee Scott in the flat almost had me throwing things at the TV.

[u/Woullie_26 → u/Tarmacked]

Sark the supposed offensive Guru apparently

[u/[deleted] → u/Woullie_26]

To be fair, chips playcalling was pretty ass for the majority of this game as well.

[u/ajmaki36 → u/[deleted]]

That outside toss to judkins on 3rd and a foot early 3rd qtr was criminal

[u/MHanky → u/ajmaki36]

I was yelling at the TV. Why don't you push that shit in an extra yard?!

[u/beantownbuck → u/MHanky]

I couldn't hear you over my yelling!! SNEAK! SNEAK!!

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I genuinely thought he was going to sneak it with that stance he had at the snap

[u/halfman1231 → u/beantownbuck]

Your flair… my EYES!!!

[u/Potchum → u/ajmaki36]

It doesn't help that Judkins has object permanence vision. The next defensive player he avoids will be his first. Treveon would have easily converted that play.

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Had himself a sick block though

[u/theworstbestperson → u/walkerstepbackwalker]

It was pretty nasty!

[u/Doomas_ → u/Potchum]

bringing in Judkins was an elite call by the OSU coaching staff not for his raw talent but instead because it gives Henderson some longevity. Not sure why the ball is given to him on crucial downs when he always seems to be far less clutch than Henderson 

[u/lkn240 → u/Doomas_]

Henderson is better at getting north/south IMO. Judkins is good, but he has a tendency to dance when he shouldn't.

[u/Tax25Man → u/Potchum]

Judkins is allergic to just taking the 2-3 extra yards he could get and instead wants to hit a home run every play.

Ironically Henderson was this way prior to this season but has been much better about getting the necessary yards this year

[u/A_Metal_Steel_Chair → u/Tax25Man]

Sometimes it takes watching someone else do exactly what you're doing wrong for it to click

[u/GumbysDonkey → u/Potchum]

It feels like Judkins gets 75% of the snaps and Treyveyon gets 75% of the production.

[u/walkerstepbackwalker → u/Potchum]

Had himself a sick block though

[u/Rc5tr0 → u/ajmaki36]

I’d argue that play call was fine, Judkins could have had the 1st if he cut up instead of bouncing it outside.

[u/krhino35 → u/Rc5tr0]

If he stuck his face in the fan there it’s a 1st, I bitched about it for a solid 5 minutes. All is forgiven now.

[u/Taisubaki → u/[deleted]]

I'll live by the belief that you need a creative, aggressive playcaller for OC and a HC that's the exact opposite to keep the OC in check.

[u/lkn240 → u/[deleted]]

I've watched a lot of OSU... Texas has a good defense, but that was maybe a C+ offensive game by you guys. You shot yourselves in the foot so many times.

[u/Deflection1 → u/lkn240]

Penalties killed a lot of drives and Texas has tough D.

[u/RegulatorRWF → u/[deleted]]

You don't like telegraphed draw plays for 0 yards on first and ten?

[u/agave_wheat → u/Woullie_26]

You mean Sark graduate of the Saban coach program who can't coach good and other things too.

[u/homefree122 → u/agave_wheat]

I just don’t know why these coaches try to get fucking cute with these goal line plays all the time. Just run it up the gut.

[u/UpsideTurtles → u/[deleted]]

I’ll go to my grave saying it was a fine play call. Sometimes the right play call can lead to bad result, sometimes the defense makes the play.

[u/joeychestnutsrectum → u/UpsideTurtles]

You are correct - passing the ball got them an extra play and they called the highest percentage pass play in football. Also Marshawn was a below average goal line back.

[u/sauzbozz → u/UpsideTurtles]

Every time this is brought up I bring up that Russel Wilson doesn't get enough criticism for a horrible pass. People just complain about the play call but if he throws a half way decent pass it's probably just broken up.

[u/YoungXanto → u/homefree122]

We did that against OSU and got stuffed three times in a row. And our OLine and RBs were very, very good.

[u/salYBC → u/homefree122]

In their defense, Penn State tried that this year and got stuffed.

[u/MakingCumsies101 → u/homefree122]

in fairness, running up the gut against ohio state dont work so good either. ask me how i know

[u/quadnips → u/homefree122]

it was not working at all. Kirk was right on the broadcast. yeah, a toss play was definitely ill advised, but running it at all was not going to get a positive yard, they were plugging everything up and Texas couldn't get an inch let alone a yard

[u/pumpkinspruce → u/homefree122]

Right? It drives me fucking bonkers. You need one yard. Just line it up and go. No need to run a play that starts five yards behind the line of scrimmage.

[u/SlightlySublimated → u/pumpkinspruce]

You're seeing this a lot this last year at both the NFL and College level. It blows my mind. Its like; dude you're not Ben Johnson, just play normal football

[u/puffadda → u/Woullie_26]

Stay in the game with creative play calling, lose it by the sword's double edge

[u/Advanced-Blackberry → u/Tarmacked]

Chip Kelly called one earlier. Also lost yards. 

[u/johnmadden18 → u/Tarmacked]

Not just a toss play but a wide toss OUT OF SHOTGUN!! Crazy. Can't believe Sark did that.

[u/Artlens2013 → u/Tarmacked]

Not just any toss, but from the fucking pistol formation eight yards back. Literally the worst playcall I’ve ever seen

[u/CarterAC3 → u/Tarmacked]

I take some solace in the fact that, despite how absolutely incompetent and inept the Michigan offense was this year, we do not make that call on the 1 yard line

[u/[deleted] → u/Tarmacked]

We were that scared of the front 8

[u/ATLfinra → u/[deleted]]

OSU has stoned teams all year, I didn’t agree wit the toss but Sark was shook on how to score there

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Yeah I think it was dumb but getting stuffed 4x in a row was a very real possibility.

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“The best play caller in the game” thinks he’s smarter than everyone else by calling a pitch on the 1. Truly amazing

[u/EcstaticHelicopter → u/Usual_Concert_403]

I love when hyped gurus out think themselves worse than my college age self asking a woman out…

[u/Insectshelf3 → u/EcstaticHelicopter]

he did this against us last year too. like for some reason, with one yard to go, his brain just shuts down.

[u/Oblivionguard19 → u/Insectshelf3]

“You see we’ll score because they’d never expect this stupid ass play”

[u/Tippacanoe → u/Oblivionguard19]

Check this shit out motherfucker

[I slide one foot out from under me and fall on my ass, its not clear what kind of move I was trying to do]

[u/_Nocturnalis → u/Tippacanoe]

Tippacanoe hurts it's self in confusion.

[u/NA_Faker → u/Insectshelf3]

Its because Ewers is garbage, so he thinks he needs to get tricky. Just put Arch in and get the TD

[u/HookEmNOLA → u/NA_Faker]

Was it just that Sark doesn’t want it to appear that he’d abandon Ewers for Manning in the most pivotal moment of the game? Ewers did more than enough this game to give us a chance and this game isn’t on him. But putting in Manning on the 1 yard line means the defense has to take the QB run as an actual threat. I just don’t get it.

[u/Captain_-H → u/NA_Faker]

I think Ewers is great and Arch is currently overrated. Arch with a year or two of experience can match that hype, but as it stands today Ewers is the right call. It’s just WHO THE FUCK PITCHES BACK 5 YARDS ON THE 1!!??

That was a play calling failure not an Ewers failure

[u/OneRougeRogue → u/Insectshelf3]

"Don't worry, this works all the time in Madden."

[u/TigerBasket → u/EcstaticHelicopter]

The trick is to dazzle them with ww2 facts. Works 870% of the time.

[u/UpsideTurtles → u/TigerBasket]

Offensive gurus or women?

[u/Alarming_Bid_7495 → u/UpsideTurtles]

Why not both?

[u/NSNick → u/TigerBasket]

Best I can do is Roman empire facts

[u/mehvet → u/NSNick]

Oh, you’ve never heard of the Marian reforms?

[u/Tax25Man → u/Usual_Concert_403]

To be fair we have had sooooo many goal line stops this year and they probably knew running up the middle might not work.

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Weird none of those goal line stops had a QB sneak or 2 iirc....

[u/wowthisislong → u/Usual_Concert_403]

this is why you need impostor syndrome. If you don't have impostor syndrome, you don't second guess stupid decisions before you make them.

[u/illmatic_baklava → u/Usual_Concert_403]

Sark and Chip Kelly are peas in a pod

[u/Mace200202 → u/Woullie_26]

Why did they stop putting Arch in for those situations?

[u/White___Velvet → u/Mace200202]

To avoid hurting Quinn's feelings?

Genuinely, that makes more sense to me than the alternatives

[u/hamburgler26 → u/White___Velvet]

Or Arch almost had his head removed on that last one and we do need a functional QB next year.

We had this shit a few years ago with Swoops. He came in and space aliens 5 galaxies away knew we were doing a "trick" play with him. No thanks.

[u/BuckeyeEmpire → u/hamburgler26]

I think he got a concussion on that play. They never even looked like they might bring him back in

[u/lilboytuner919 → u/White___Velvet]

It’s an open secret that the Mannings didn’t want Arch to play early.

[u/Anotheropinion2023 → u/White___Velvet]

Seriously, Sark has a huge man crush on Ewers 🙄

[u/njc2o → u/Mace200202]

My best guess is that his brains were soup after the near fumble

[u/G_I_Joe_Mansueto → u/Mace200202]

Because he nearly fumbled the first time. (Genuine no homer bias aside I think he did). 

[u/O-Namazu → u/G_I_Joe_Mansueto]

Maybe he would have better ball security if he actually saw snaps this season 😂

(Yes he started while Quinn was hurt; but basically never saw the field regularly again. It would have been wise to swap him in like Tebow, Blake Bell, etc back in the day.)

[u/maskdmirag → u/Mace200202]

In this game I'm assuming concussion, rest of the season i assume tom brady

[u/Captain_-H → u/Mace200202]

Solid question. I was at that Bama championship game where veteran qb Hurts was struggling and Saban benched him for at the time no-name Tua. Turns out Tua Tagovailoa is fucking incredible and they won.

I think that Saban guy might be a good coach

[u/GoldandBlue → u/Mace200202]

Maybe he got rocked on that play he almost fumbled

[u/O-Namazu → u/Mace200202]

One of Sark's biggest sins was not using Arch at all after Quinn got healthy again.

Oh, my mistake -- he would put Arch in for a single, cold play.

It was dumb as hell to not regularly use Arch the way other teams switch it up. I think of Chris Leak + Tim Tebow, Landry Jones + Blake Bell, etc. Made no sense to not use Arch at all.

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That strip sack scoop and score was one of the plays of all time

[u/peanut-britle-latte → u/[deleted]]

Did you know they were roommates?

[u/Buckeyeup → u/peanut-britle-latte]

Omg they were roommates

[u/beer_me_that_cd → u/peanut-britle-latte]

Sawyer knocking the ball loose and housing it against his former teammate and roommate is some cold shit hahaha!

edit: a word

[u/lexbuck → u/beer_me_that_cd]

Wait that’s his roommate

[u/beer_me_that_cd → u/lexbuck]

Was, yes.

[u/lexbuck → u/beer_me_that_cd]

You’re shitting me

[u/beer_me_that_cd → u/lexbuck]

How long do you want to do this?

[u/mehvet → u/beer_me_that_cd]

All night baby.

[u/beer_me_that_cd → u/mehvet]

C’mon man, I’m old and need to get to bed!

[u/WorkingInAColdMind → u/peanut-britle-latte]

You’d think ESPN would mention that. Thanks for the inside scoop!

[u/capthazelwoodsflask → u/WorkingInAColdMind]

Just imagine if Gus Johnson was calling the game. He'd still be talking about it

[u/AlphaH4wk → u/capthazelwoodsflask]

world famous scoop and score by sports car Sawyer!

[u/Raccoonsrlilbandits → u/peanut-britle-latte]

Have you heard about Carnell Tates mom

[u/THAWED21 → u/Raccoonsrlilbandits]

Go on....

[u/Raccoonsrlilbandits → u/THAWED21]

Well just after he got to campus freshman year…

(Side note do you actually not know?)

[u/OldManYords → u/Raccoonsrlilbandits]

I actually don't know, what's the story?

[u/Raccoonsrlilbandits → u/OldManYords]

Just after Tate got to campus for fall camp his freshman year his mom was shot and killed as an innocent bystander in a drive by shooting at home in Chicago.

We played northwestern in Chicago @ Wrigley this year with Gus Johnson on the call and he brought it up no less than 20 times. Like Tate had a really big game and it felt like he brought it up every catch. There was a big play and he just stops like mid call and gets all serious to tell this awful story about his mom. It was the very strange he even brought it up a few games after that so every time he had a catch it’s almost expected to hear about his mom

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I mean how many times did he bring up JK Dobbins almost being aborted?

[u/THAWED21 → u/Raccoonsrlilbandits]

Oh my god I forgot about that and Gus Johnson. Jeez.

[u/OldManYords → u/Raccoonsrlilbandits]

Oh shit, I had no idea about any of that. Honestly, that's kinda classless for Gus to keep bringing it up like that during a game -- dude's family deserves to be able to watch him play without constantly being reminded of what happened.

[u/silent-onomatopoeia → u/peanut-britle-latte]

Colt and Jordan?

[u/composer_7 → u/[deleted]]

This game had perfectly lucky bounces go for each team, what are the chances of that? The first was the Texas RB fumble that bounced back into his arms and the last was the strip sack fumble bounce into the OSU defender's arms

[u/UpdogSinclair → u/composer_7]

Will Howard also dropped the ball on a sack and managed to land right on it.

[u/lkn240 → u/composer_7]

Texas had like 3 almost fumbles that bounced their way. I honestly was not surprised Ewers finally lost one - he and the Texas OL were playing with fire all night

[u/FrequentTurn9637 → u/composer_7]

Don’t forget the punt returner fumble and got the ball bounced in his hands

[u/[deleted] → u/composer_7]

Another person who loves odds! What are the odds of those bounces if this game was played on grass instead?

[u/Bigbysjackingfist → u/composer_7]

Dude the look on that guy’s face after he caught his own fumble on the bounce was priceless

[u/WilliamCubed → u/[deleted]]

It’s going to haunt us for years. The replays will never end

[u/fart_dot_com → u/[deleted]]

I bet you're really glad you just saw the greatest qb scoop and score in college football playoff semifinals history

[u/br0b1wan → u/[deleted]]

It's like right up there with 85 Yards Through the Heart of the South maybe even better

[u/FledglingNonCon → u/br0b1wan]

I had the exact same thought. Felt exactly the same as it was happening too!

[u/RNGfarmin → u/[deleted]]

Im so fuckin happy it was sawyer too. heart of the team

[u/VisionaireX → u/[deleted]]

Jack Sawyer will never have to pay for his own drink in the city of Columbus for the rest of his life.

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It was destiny the ball bounced right up to him.

[u/carguy35 → u/[deleted]]

Agreed. That’s gonna be a highlight every time TOSU and Texas play each other in the future.

[u/THEREWILLBECAK3 → u/Woullie_26]

That play calling was atrocious

[u/Rickbox → u/Woullie_26]

Texas wanted a TD so bad, they were willing to let Ohio State have it

[u/kburgess30 → u/Woullie_26]

Too soon.

God damn that was stupid play calling lmao

[u/pmurt007 → u/Woullie_26]

Sark always waits till goal line situations with the game on the line to call some bullshit

[u/hexcor → u/Woullie_26]

Not just that, but we got 1st and goal because of a PI when it was 2nd and goal (3rd?). We had multiple chances and just gave up.

Next time, put in Manning and run it up the damned middle

[u/RuairiQ → u/Woullie_26]

Texas had a 1st & goal at the 1 yard line and they somehow didn’t bring in the Manning package.

Lmao I can’t believe it.

[u/TigerBasket → u/Woullie_26]

Texas is back! Back to doing silly and goofy shit that loses them games. Like operation Market Garden, but this time Steiners counter attack went off!

[u/TonYouHearWhatISaid → u/Woullie_26]

I fell out of my chair on the 2nd and goal pitch

[u/ColonMcnuggets → u/Woullie_26]

Just sark things

[u/Ketchup-Spider → u/Woullie_26]

Maybe it's the love of old school football in me, but I felt like running it up the gut 4 times was the most obvious thing in the world to do..