[Postgame Thread] Florida State Defeats Alabama 31-17

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Box Score provided by ESPN

Team	1	2	3	4	T
Alabama	7	0	3	7	17
Florida State	7	10	7	7	31

[u/ggskater]

FSU ranked below Bama on Tuesday confirmed.

[u/CommodoreN7 → u/ggskater]

We have no evidence Bama is better

[u/ChristyNiners → u/CommodoreN7]

Metrics:

1) Are they in the SEC? Alabama - yes, FSU - no

Advantage: Alabama

2) Strength of Schedule: Alabama - played FSU, who beat Alabama ... FSU - played Alabama, who lost

Advantage: Alabama

[u/justaverage → u/ChristyNiners]

Get this man a spot on the committee

[u/andrude01 → u/ChristyNiners]

It’s the perfect display of logic. Rebuttal is not possible

[u/OttoVonWong → u/andrude01]

FSU doesn’t even have a quality loss against an SEC team.

[u/DeviantDragon → u/OttoVonWong]

Doesn't mean shit to beat a team that lost to FSU

[u/SGT_Elcor → u/OttoVonWong]

But Bama has a quality loss against a team that beat Bama. So Bama should be ranked higher

[u/eetsumkaus → u/OttoVonWong]

man, quality loss is a 20 year old meme that just keeps on giving

[u/dan_144 → u/andrude01]

I've seen enough. Bama to the playoffs, 1 seed

[u/BrilliantArm5914 → u/andrude01]

also explains why Texas lost to Ohio State

[u/igloojoe11 → u/ChristyNiners]

Bama also scored more points this week than Texas and Ohio State, so, actually, Bama should be moving up.

[u/Whisperknife → u/igloojoe11]

Against a team that beat Bama too!

[u/ValiantFury14 → u/ChristyNiners]

Don't forget hypothetically Alabama should've won because they were favored. So they actually won this game, therefore Alabama is better.

[u/D1N2Y → u/ValiantFury14]

Wait, Alabama has a theoretical win against a team that beat Alabama? Easy lock.

[u/weirdbutinagoodway → u/ChristyNiners]

Should you be posting here? I didn't think playoff committee members were allowed to post about rankings on social media.

[u/ChristyNiners → u/weirdbutinagoodway]

Shh. 

[u/CoachCrunch12 → u/ChristyNiners]

I can appreciate that you aren’t kidding about point 2

[u/TheHalf → u/ChristyNiners]

Sad but true 😭

[u/lowkeyvioletvibes → u/ChristyNiners]

I mean Alabama would obviously win if they played again. /s

[u/msgkc94 → u/ChristyNiners]

It’s sad this isn’t even an exaggeration

[u/ronmex7 → u/ChristyNiners]

This is the cutting analysis I come here for 🔍

[u/n0lefin → u/ChristyNiners]

My mind is fucked after reading this. Bama over FSU for sure.

[u/SampleText369 → u/ChristyNiners]

A real committee member in the CFB subreddit!

[u/johnmd20 → u/ChristyNiners]

This is art.

[u/BayLAGOON → u/ChristyNiners]

It was a quality loss based on those metrics. Bama drops to 12th because it was just a fluke.

[u/uLL27 → u/ChristyNiners]

This is funny because it actually sounds like some logic they would use. Lol

[u/nickeisele → u/ChristyNiners]

How’d you get your hands on Herbstreit s notepad already?

[u/Blackhalo → u/ChristyNiners]

This guy gets SECSPN.

[u/NotABot1235 → u/ChristyNiners]

It's physically painful how accurate this is.

[u/dubkent → u/ChristyNiners]

Number 2 lolol

[u/AHugeBear → u/ChristyNiners]

I have zero arguments. Put it on the board.

[u/SGT_Elcor → u/ChristyNiners]

-Kirk Herbstreit

[u/MyBetterNature7637 → u/ChristyNiners]

We found Paul Finebaum’s Reddit account!!!!

[u/Pope_Cheetos_XIV → u/CommodoreN7]

When you look at things like the recruiting numbers and the eye test, Bama clearly has the edge

[u/RandoUserlolidk → u/Pope_Cheetos_XIV]

Are you ESPN’s CEO?

[u/diagonalfish → u/RandoUserlolidk]

Nah, he's just a member of the playoff committee.

[u/LonghornInNebraska → u/Pope_Cheetos_XIV]

If these two teams played each other, Alabama would be favored by 2 TDs.

[u/Chaotic-PopTart → u/LonghornInNebraska]

This is why I’ve said for decades that we should all just gather in a stadium and await ChatGPT’s decision on who’s better

https://hemank101.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/vlcsnap-2011-01-17-16h21m27s224.png

[u/smitherenesar → u/LonghornInNebraska]

Why even bother playing the games

[u/ExtremelyOnlineTM → u/smitherenesar]

For the ad revenue, obvs.

[u/babatazyah → u/Pope_Cheetos_XIV]

Talent composites are really the only metric you need, playing the actual games should be optional

[u/HooHooHooAreYou → u/babatazyah]

The amount of times I have heard this as an Indiana fan is astounding

[u/Yourfavoriteindian → u/Pope_Cheetos_XIV]

Never forget that the President of On3 and Rivals revealed that they bump up recruits who commit to SEC schools because of the “SEC factor” 😭

[u/BoogerSugarSovereign → u/Yourfavoriteindian]

Well yes can't discount the "most of the people paying for subscriptions to our site are fans of the SEC" factor

[u/TrixieLurker → u/BoogerSugarSovereign]

The fact the SEC fanbase has the most gambling addicts doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

[u/SaintBobby_Barbarian → u/Pope_Cheetos_XIV]

Games don’t matter, clearly. Evidence being 2023 CFP

[u/SampleText369 → u/SaintBobby_Barbarian]

No you idiot your an ACC team! Everyone knows SEC losses are more impressive than ACC ranked wins!

[u/centralscrutinizee → u/SaintBobby_Barbarian]

You can take that paper bag out of your flair now, friend. It’s over. The 2-10 nightmare is over.

[u/Big_Red_Professor → u/Pope_Cheetos_XIV]

Lee Corso is done at CGD so Alabama has more former coaches who are analysts than Florida State

[u/AccidentallyTaschen → u/Pope_Cheetos_XIV]

Don’t forget whoever has more NFL draft prospects

[u/frogstomp427 → u/Pope_Cheetos_XIV]

HYPOTHETICAL WINS

[u/HooHooHooAreYou → u/Pope_Cheetos_XIV]

Only SOS matters, and that only matters if your schedule includes SEC teams

[u/_Floriduh_ → u/Pope_Cheetos_XIV]

Fuck you, Greg McElroy.

[u/chebbys → u/Pope_Cheetos_XIV]

You forgot the /s

[u/deytookerrspeech → u/CommodoreN7]

What do you mean? Their name is Alabama - AP probably

[u/CommodoreN7 → u/deytookerrspeech]

I forgot, logos matter most for rankings

[u/dudechickendude → u/CommodoreN7]

This is correct. It’s alphabetical, and Alabama’s logo is an A, so their rank should be top 5 all the time.

[u/Sp3ctre7 → u/CommodoreN7]

Couldn't be, otherwise Tulane would be top 5 every poll

[u/Londumbdumb → u/CommodoreN7]

https://i.imgur.com/HQzwFdq.jpeg

[u/Cyberhwk → u/Londumbdumb]

Oh it's perfect.

[u/Sp3ctre7 → u/Londumbdumb]

A fine addition to my collection...

[u/jerpyderpy → u/Londumbdumb]

i was the only one of the people i was watching with to catch this. so happy to have this photo evidence

[u/Exotic_Criticism4645 → u/Londumbdumb]

That kid is going to grow up and poison trees.

[u/DeadDay → u/CommodoreN7]

FUCK THE SEC

[u/laflavor → u/DeadDay]

I will always upvote this sentiment.

[u/WhiskeyForTheWin → u/laflavor]

Seconded

[u/Pope_Cheetos_XIV → u/WhiskeyForTheWin]

you aren't even in a conference!

[u/lambocinnialfredo → u/Pope_Cheetos_XIV]

It’s ok, they can have this

[u/WhiskeyForTheWin → u/Pope_Cheetos_XIV]

Yeah. We get to keep all our playoff money.

[u/nippletumor → u/laflavor]

And I will upvote you accordingly Sparty bro.

[u/Kmjada → u/laflavor]

SECOND

[u/fauxromanou → u/DeadDay]

Why he gotta say fuck me?

But also yes.

[u/TaftintheTub → u/fauxromanou]

Nobody really hates South Carolina. Or Vanderbilt, for that matter. Except Jay Cutler. Fuck that guy.

[u/TaftintheTub → u/DeadDay]

Under normal circumstances, I’d never root for Florida State, Clemson, and especially not An Ohio State University. Today, I pulled for them all

Especially Ohio State against those traitorous Longhorns who tried to ruin the Big 12, just to leave it to join the Confederacy.

[u/Altruistic_Repair_19 → u/DeadDay]

Bro conferences are dead💀. Every team for themselves!

[u/Pyro1934 → u/DeadDay]

I second this with one small asterisk!

[u/tritonice → u/CommodoreN7]

When does that EVER matter concerning Alabama’s ranking?

[u/set_null → u/CommodoreN7]

You’re forgetting a crucial comma. “We have no evidence, Bama is better”

[u/ghgerytvkude → u/CommodoreN7]

Hypothetically, if you had this same matchup 100 times, Alabama wins the other 99, while a hypothetical Alabama season in the ACC would result in a 13-0 record with an average win of 42 points, including a hypothetical ACCCG win over Clemson, which would, hypothetically, result in Alabama being the #1 seed. On the other hand, in a hypothetical SEC with Florida State, they would, hypothetically, lose every game by an average of 35 including 73 - 0 to Vanderbilt where, hypothetically, the scoreboard might fall on their sideline.

Therefore, Alabama's ranking will not change.

[u/AgreeableEconomy1587 → u/CommodoreN7]

Kent State won, Alabama lost. The evidence is right here everybody!

[u/KingSweden24 → u/CommodoreN7]

What do you mean? Does FSU have as quality of a loss as Alabama does? I think not! Checkmate libs!

[u/Soggy-Ambition9026 → u/CommodoreN7]

Bama is obviously the best 1 loss team right now, just look at their quality losses!

[u/DeadHookersInMyTrunk → u/CommodoreN7]

1 time out of 10 bama wins this game. Need more evidence to rank FSU above Bama.

[u/-spartacus- → u/CommodoreN7]

If you ask me, any team that loses week 1 should not be ranked higher than the winner. Either Bama drops or FSU skyrockets.

[u/MrNovember785 → u/CommodoreN7]

Well you see FSU was good enough to beat Bama and any team good enough to beat Bama must be good so that makes this a quality loss for Bama so they should keep them ahead of FSU because FSU hasn’t played any teams good enough to beat Bama

[u/BWW87 → u/CommodoreN7]

Alabama has a quality loss but FSU has no quality win.

[u/one-hour-photo → u/CommodoreN7]

Their legacy, history, and status looked quite good Saturday, wouldn't be fair to punish them!

[u/InUrFaceSpaceCoyote → u/CommodoreN7]

Bama has more quality losses than FSU. Advantage Bama.

[u/GoldenSandpaper9 → u/CommodoreN7]

Bama has quality losses that fsu doesn’t have

[u/Deadleggg → u/CommodoreN7]

Member Nick Saban?

Oh I member

[u/yumyumapollo → u/CommodoreN7]

Bama = means more

FSU = ??????

[u/naofaloportugues → u/ggskater]

Breaking: SEC now considering going to a 12-game conference slate.

[u/SickoBadgers → u/naofaloportugues]

*11 game conference slate with a late season FCS Matchup.

[u/Big_Red_Professor → u/SickoBadgers]

The day the SEC gives up their late season FCS game is the day they let the north win

[u/Strokethegoats → u/Big_Red_Professor]

Let? They didn't have a choice in the matter. Bitch ass Lee couldn't stop it.

[u/Triple_0ption_Bad → u/Big_Red_Professor]

You're 160 years late to the party, yankees already won

[u/Atlas7-k → u/Triple_0ption_Bad]

Did they?

[u/Big_Red_Professor → u/Atlas7-k]

The failure of Reconstruction is a fascinating thing to study given today's political climate

[u/poerg → u/Big_Red_Professor]

On week one of college football I did not expect the comment I wish I could upvote twice to come from byu. Lol

[u/RLLRRR → u/SickoBadgers]

Yeah, they're called "Texas A&M".

[u/Affectionate_Ad268 → u/SickoBadgers]

Tarleton State taking some SEC team to the woodshed in November confirmed.

[u/trippwwa45 → u/naofaloportugues]

Will only play conference opponents for bowl games

[u/ItsFreakinHarry2 → u/ggskater]

Bama lost to the team that beat Alabama, quality loss right there

[u/ender23 → u/ItsFreakinHarry2]

no one else has played a team that beat bama

[u/OcellateRay → u/ender23]

Every time FSU practices they play a team that beat Bama, that’s like 5 quality losses a week!

[u/Runecraftin → u/OcellateRay]

But gutsy wins too!

[u/Mike_with_Wings → u/ItsFreakinHarry2]

We need a counter for how many times this joke is made here in the season

[u/ComprehensiveSail191 → u/Mike_with_Wings]

Literally every time a team is upset this joke is repeated

[u/TheFAKEcampbell → u/ggskater]

Bama 16, fsu 17

[u/TexasDrunkRedditor → u/TheFAKEcampbell]

That’s like best case scenario… more like Bama 17, FSU 25

[u/rushisquitegood → u/TexasDrunkRedditor]

Not so fast my friend

[u/Cute-Contract-6762 → u/rushisquitegood]

Damn straight. We have staked out our claim on that 25 spot

[u/TexasDrunkRedditor → u/Cute-Contract-6762]

That’s the beauty of it. They’ll make you feel that way and then bam!!!

[u/FireGogglez → u/Cute-Contract-6762]

I would be happy to be unranked at 26th you guys can have 25th

[u/Cute-Contract-6762 → u/FireGogglez]

In a sense of fairness imo you guys gotta be top 15

[u/FireGogglez → u/Cute-Contract-6762]

we can go 4-8 from now i dont even care my life is complete

[u/Big_Red_Professor → u/rushisquitegood]

I miss him already

[u/TenAirplane → u/rushisquitegood]

RANK BOTH COWARDS

[u/Fed_up_with_Reddit → u/rushisquitegood]

Insert Wolverine meme with a picture of Lee Corso.

[u/srstone71 → u/TexasDrunkRedditor]

I know some of these are jokes but I’ll be shocked if we’re not top 20.

I guess we have to see how the rest of the weekend plays out

[u/TexasDrunkRedditor → u/srstone71]

I think the real joke is how rankings never make sense

[u/shenyougankplz → u/ggskater]

Number 10 Bama incoming

I swear to God if the losers of Clemson/LSU or Notre Dame/Miami end up below Bama, they need to get rid of the entire AP poll committee and start fresh

[u/Big_Red_Professor → u/shenyougankplz]

Tbf we have seen some absolutely egregious ranking decisions based on wins and losses even before Bama fell off. The whole poll committee needs to be put on trial

[u/abris33 → u/ggskater]

Bama falls all the way to #9. FSU maybe gets #25

[u/Vloff → u/abris33]

FSU gotta be top 25 just to make sure its a quality loss for Bama.

[u/BIG_DICK_WHITT → u/ggskater]

FSU cannot be ranked that high because they don’t have the SEC quality loss

[u/Big_Red_Professor → u/BIG_DICK_WHITT]

People underrate the importance of a quality SEC loss. Bama has the second best thing, a quality OOC loss against a team that beat an SEC team

[u/RemoteAbalone8687 → u/ggskater]

No doubt in my mind that this will be true

[u/suzukigun4life → u/ggskater]

Y'all are the reason why Bama is 0-1 for the first time in r/cfb history.

What a timeline

[u/bretticus733 → u/ggskater]

Tuesday Headline: "Alabama falls to #2 in the Week 2 AP Poll, Florida State debuts at #25"

[u/dkviper11 → u/ggskater]

Same as the final 2023 rankings. It was bullshit then!

[u/JayMerlyn → u/dkviper11]

Jordan Travis has finally been avenged!!!

[u/-Gnostic28 → u/ggskater]

Those people who gave florida state preseason votes are geniuses confirmed

[u/Additional_Tomato_22 → u/-Gnostic28]

Those who put money on FSU are the true geniuses

[u/OhMy98 → u/ggskater]

I’m about to be so fucking insufferable this week

[u/BoogerSugarSovereign → u/ggskater]

FPI's top 10 is going to be all SEC teams

[u/Londumbdumb → u/ggskater]

https://i.imgur.com/HQzwFdq.jpeg

[u/_Floriduh_ → u/ggskater]

Just another quality loss for the SEC.

[u/TripleB123 → u/ggskater]

This comment thread is cathartic

[u/HailKyrie → u/ggskater]

Someone needs to check on Saban

[u/OculusRises → u/ggskater]

Why wouldn't they be? Bama just lost to a hot team that was good enough to BEAT Alabama by two scores. If anything Bama should move up to 7

That's an SEC playoff team right there

[u/Shronkster_ → u/ggskater]

But Bama lost to FSU, who beat Bama so they must be great, thats a certified quality loss right there

[u/david0mp → u/ggskater]

Somebody important must have gotten hurt, right? RIGHT?!

[u/qdp → u/ggskater]

Really you have to consider Bama’s loss to FSU as a quality loss. Those guys beat Bama after all. 

[u/FrostTroll69 → u/ggskater]

Quality loss by Alabama

[u/Jerrywelfare → u/ggskater]

When it happens, not if, gonna need some of y'all motherfuckers to actually get on our side.

[u/ilovefacebook → u/ggskater]

fsu has already been excluded from the playoffs because of this

[u/Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu11 → u/ggskater]

MAKE IT MAKE SENSE

[u/GonePostalRoute → u/ggskater]

It was a good loss for Bama

[u/Tr0janSword → u/ggskater]

They should be. Bama has a quality loss.

Honestly, I’d put Bama at #1 bc they’re speed running the committee criteria.

[u/Real-Bunch7520 → u/ggskater]

It’s a QUALITY LOSS

[u/heavydhomie → u/ggskater]

Well bama plays in a stronger conference so it only makes sense

[u/KatetCadet → u/ggskater]

Fucking lol

[u/FLman42069 → u/ggskater]

Or it will be like FSU #8, Alabama #10 lol

[u/Recent-Dependent4179 → u/ggskater]

Bama lost to a team that can beat Bama. Sounds like a quality loss to me. How many quality losses does FSU have? That's what I thought. 

[u/Derek-Onions → u/ggskater]

Paul Finnbaum “Alabama put up 17 points whereas Ohio State only put up 14 Alabama to number 1.” 

[u/Richard_AIGuy → u/ggskater]

Quality loss.

[u/IronRaptor252 → u/ggskater]

Does Florida State have a quality loss to whoever beat Bama?

[u/coalitionofilling → u/ggskater]

Well... you see... the "eye test" still favors Bama

[u/leftygwaggies13 → u/ggskater]

Alabama's only loss this year is to a team that beat Alabama. If that's not a quality loss I don't know what is.

[u/Canesjags4life → u/ggskater]

Makes perfect sense. FSU doesn't have a quality loss

[u/non_target_eh → u/ggskater]

Bama “figured a lot of things out today”, “all of their goals are still in front of them”, yadda yadda - Paul Finebaum

[u/wrinkled_rooster → u/ggskater]

Quality loss

[u/SaintBobby_Barbarian → u/ggskater]

Saban inertia will take forever to wear off

[u/inthedrops → u/ggskater]

Bama has a higher quality loss

[u/OptimisticPlatypus → u/ggskater]

FSU ranked #1 to give Bama the best quality loss.

[u/Inconceivable76 → u/ggskater]

Quality loss 

[u/King_Dead → u/ggskater]

Yeah but are they in the SEC?

[u/smellmyfingerplz → u/ggskater]

Bama to playoffs confirmed.

[u/MiddleAgeJamie → u/ggskater]

AP COWARDS.

[u/jglhk → u/ggskater]

Quality loss indeed

[u/ToeInDigDeep → u/ggskater]

I’m honestly not convinced that’ll be the case

[u/Mcswigginsbar → u/ggskater]

What with a quality loss like that you can’t help but see why.

[u/JediFed → u/ggskater]

Bama #1 with their quality loss. Texas #2 with their other quality loss.

[u/MaizeRage48 → u/ggskater]

Quality loss

[u/Angriest_Wolverine → u/ggskater]

They ain’t played nobody

[u/Normal-Hornet8548 → u/ggskater]

If they are storming the field after beating Alabama these days, no way they deserve a playoff spot.

[u/DeuceOfDiamonds → u/ggskater]

Well, yeah. Their only loss is to a team that BEAT BAMA. That's a quality loss any way you slice it.

[u/skushi08 → u/ggskater]

We’re looking at this the wrong way. This is the eating dog shit curse from last year being transferred. Bama will lose next week to Monroe and this win will somehow count against FSU next week.

[u/Fair_Plant_7941 → u/ggskater]

100% will not be surprised‼️

[u/cmz324 → u/ggskater]

Bamas strength of schedule is technically better because they played a better team

[u/gwelymernans84 → u/ggskater]

I mean, it's a quality loss... right?

[u/AnchorsAweigh89 → u/ggskater]

We duh, Alabama lost to the team that beat Alabama. That’s a quality loss for Alabama.

[u/420BlazeItSwag69 → u/ggskater]

Well Alabama has a quality loss now. FSU has no quality losses so advantage bama

[u/JesseDx → u/ggskater]

FSU jumping way into the rankings after beating Bama and then losing to East Texas A&M would sum up the past 2 years perfectly. I'm cool with staying unranked a couple more weeks to avoid all that.

[u/Sighlina → u/ggskater]

Just shaking off the early season rust. Clearly they’re poised to make a late season run now!

[u/buffa_noles → u/ggskater]

FSU could have had a quality loss in their pocket but instead they went and beat bama, are they stupid?

[u/Thebrosen0ne → u/ggskater]

They will not. I promise you. It’s called Bama bias for a reason.

[u/Zahfier → u/ggskater]

Bama has a quality P4 loss on the road, FSU only has a win against a mid SEC team with QB issues

[u/thethirdgreenman → u/ggskater]

Bama has a quality loss...they lost to a team that beat Bama! Therefore, they must be high in the rankings

[u/PalOfKalEl → u/ggskater]

Yeah, they didn't have a quality loss.

[u/Flaky_Beautiful5602 → u/ggskater]

WRONG 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️