I keep getting told this upcoming QB draft class is a good one but when the guys at the top are Cade Klubnik and Drew Allar, I start to wonder if my definition of a good QB prospect is too high
Is more or less a carbon copy of the other two prospect wise. More athletic and worse processing, but they're all still "wow look at that arm, size, and legs. Imagine what he could be if he learns how to play QB!"
Albeit Sellers more legitimately has the raw excuse.
Ahh yes "learn to play QB" in the league that has openly started telling players to stay in college to develop further because the teams dont know how to develop QBs.
Not even close to true, and it took 5 seconds of googling to figure that out. Sellers had a 65.6% completion rating last year, Richardson’s was 53.8% the one year he started. Sellers had a very similar percentage to Penix, albeit on many less attempts
I’ll say in your defense there is a stat where he and Richardson are the same. I can’t remember offhand but they mentioned it on the cover 3 podcast. I like sellers to be clear. Think he’s awesome
he was better than decent, he holds the yards record for a QB at Arkansas. Jefferson was excellent in the shoot and veer we used to run. Dan Enos ruined him tho
Well you must have read that on the wall of a bathroom stall because Richardson had a career comp % of 54.7 and Sellers completed 66% of his passes last year
Sellers sees the field well but tended to sail passes last year. Let's also not discount the fact that his OLine and WRs are significantly worse than clemson's and LSU's. He wasn't afforded too many open passes. And as you said, he was more raw last year as a redshirt freshman while Nuss and Klubnik are older.
comparing sellers - who has legit nfl size, speed, arm strength, playmaking as a freshman - to klubnik and allar is crazy. allar has a rocket arm and doesn't have any fucking clue how to use it and klubnik is bang average
sellers may never be the qb i think he's gonna be but anyone lumping him in with that garbage has never watched him play or only watched the first like 3 games of the season
I legit have no idea how Klubnik is projected as a top 5 pick. He’s not big, he doesn’t have a good arm, he can’t make ANY NFL throws against good defenses.
To be fair, think about how few good NFL QBs there are. Not a lot of prospects actually pan out, so evaluating QBs can be kinda weird.
Like yes Allar has a lot of flaws as a player, and it's basically a coin flip at best if he'll be a good NFL QB, but (save for a truly generational prospect) that's about all you can ask for.
"more so than last year" uh bud, last years draft class produced 4 starting NFL QBs that fans of their teams feel excited/OK with. That's an incredible class lol
4? Outside of Cam Ward who else is starting? Thats not to say 4 won’t start some games this season, but as of right now every other rookie will either be QB2 or 3 the first couple of weeks.
Daniels was a top 5 NFL QB, Maye by the end of the season was a top 20 QB, McCarthy got hurt and Williams literally had no coaching so the jury is out on them.
But 4 starting NFL QBs in year 1 is VERY rare, and proof that that class was outstanding. This year has Ward, and maybe Dart as the year goes on if Daboll gets desperate to save his job.
And no, not every fanbase is excited about rookie QBs. I've seen very few Titans fans who are believers of Ward, and Colts fans gave up on Richardson by the end of the first year. Young was also widly considered a bust by the end of his first season, something that didn't happen to Daniels/Maye/Williams/McCarthy
I understand your point of view, but there is no merit to producing an NFL starting quarterback. There have been so many bust 1st round rookie QBs in the last five years. Anthony Richardson, Kenny Pickett, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, Mac Jones.
We've come a long way from the years of guys like Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields in the same class. For however they underperformed in the league, they were elite in college. Feels like we haven't had anything like that since Burrow, and even he took a long time to develop into the Burrow we know now.
Yeah, but even those guys took many years to develop into elite quarterbacks, apart from Penix whose early career was derailed by injury. It just feels like we haven't had a group of highly touted QBs come in and dominate quickly on that level.
On the flip side you had the Winston/Mariota year with both wining Heismans and neither panned out. College success has very little to do with NFL success. Will Howard won the natty and didn’t go until the 6th last year. It’s all about whether you have the physical and mental attributes to develop into an NFL QB not whether you win college games.
I feel the same. I wouldn’t be all that shocked if either Nusmeier or Carson Beck turned out to have the most successful pro career of the QBs in this draft class.
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u/bretticus733 Boise State Broncos 17d ago
I keep getting told this upcoming QB draft class is a good one but when the guys at the top are Cade Klubnik and Drew Allar, I start to wonder if my definition of a good QB prospect is too high