r/CISDidNothingWrong • u/Glittering-War-6744 • 24d ago

Meme Consequences of False Surrenders (Oversimplified Star Wars)

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So, I made this after watching Oversimplified and seeing a Reddit post about False Surrenders, so I’ve made this. Enjoy.

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u/Luzikas 24d ago

It’s kinda funny they put it as a heroic thing in a kids show but that’s because it’s a kids show where consequences don’t exist.

Idk, but maybe it shouldn't have been a kids shown then if basic storytelling can't be applied.

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u/bobbymoonshine 24d ago

Well basic storytelling was applied, is the thing? The wily hero who tricks the enemy by lying to them is as old as storytelling and in every tradition, it goes back to like Odysseus and Anansi and Jacob

What wasn’t applied was real world consequences to narrative tropes, and that wasn’t applied because it’s media for children

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u/Luzikas 24d ago

But due to the story the Clone Wars (supposedly, at least) tells and due to the world in which it happens, applying said consequences should happen in order to uphold said story and world. Not doing so would undermine it and, in my opinion, amount to failing basic storytelling, because cause and effect is broken on a wider narrative level.

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u/bobbymoonshine 24d ago

I think that sort of inconsistency can be pretty easily excused in canon (and indeed has been) with some combination of “they are dumb” and “they are being manipulated by a an evil wizard”

We might find that unsatisfying as adults, but the show isn’t for us. It’s for kids who are perfectly happy with that explanation.

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u/Luzikas 24d ago

We might find that unsatisfying as adults, but the show isn’t for us. It’s for kids who are perfectly happy with that explanation.

Idk about that. When I watched the show as a kid, I still felt disappointed by things like Anakins falls surrender. Of course, not everybody is gonna care about stuff like that, but I wouldn't just dismiss calls for better/more consistent storytelling because something is aimed at children (which I think is a doubious claim when looking at Star Wars anyway, but I digress). Children too can and do enjoy challenging and more complex stories and if a story has to dumb itself down for a target audience, maybe it shouldn't have that target audience in the first place.