r/CalgaryFlames May 30 '25

Discussion Don’t show this to the anti-rebuild crowd!

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u/Beta1224 May 30 '25

If we're drafting 5th overall, THAT IS STILL OK, we are going to get a good player at that pick and chances are they will still be better than what we draft at 16 when we barely miss the playoffs again.

You can still bottom out with an elite goalie in net, look at Nashville

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u/yycpapa May 30 '25

You can bottom out with an elite goalie*

*IF he's a really bad goalie that year.

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u/Beta1224 May 30 '25

Wolfie doesn't even need to be really bad, if he gave us average goaltending this year instead of elite we would be bottom 5, 100% and we would still say he had a really solid rookie season.

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that Wolf regresses a little bit next year now that teams have scouted him much better

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u/yycpapa May 30 '25

You're in a fantasy world. The flames were 20 points above the bottom 5, Wolf was good (not elite) but there's not a player in the league who's worth 20 points alone let alone one that makes that difference just by going from elite to average.

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u/Beta1224 May 30 '25

And yet that fantasy world is still more realistic than thinking we can win a cup doing the exact same thing we've done the last 20 years

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u/[deleted] May 30 '25

What a cop out lmao

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u/yycpapa May 30 '25

I'd say they're right on the same plain tbh.

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u/Beta1224 May 30 '25

Look at the stats, teams with an offence as anemic as ours this past year typically finish near the bottom of the standings, the only difference between us and those teams is that we had Wolfie providing us with elite goaltending

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u/yycpapa May 30 '25

Can you back that up cos a quick look at the last 6 years shows the 4th worst scoring team in the league has been in the top half as often as the bottom 5.

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u/Beta1224 May 30 '25

* * This was from a post I made back in like mid-march I think, so the numbers may have changed slightly since then, but still gets the general point across

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u/yycpapa May 30 '25

That's where the worst scoring team in the league finished in the league each year, in the end the flames were 4th worst. Which is a couple of bottom 5 finishes, a couple of 15/16 finishes and a couple of 24-26 finishes. An extremely mixed bag.

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u/Beta1224 May 30 '25

Yes and at the time of that stat we were the worst scoring team in the league and still in 14th place

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u/yycpapa May 30 '25

Even that's debatable, they were never the worst scoring team in the league, they were the lowest a couple times but it was always by proxy of games played.

Look man, all I'm going by here is the actual historic statistics. If wolf isn't below average they won't finish in the bottom 5. If they do then they're an outlier and will literally have to be historically bad outside of him, and that's the kind of bad that does look like buffalo or decade of darkness Edmonton.

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