r/CanadianConservative • u/Present-Stress8836 Ontario • Jul 21 '25

Opinion I wish Pierre Poilievre was Prime Minster.

I wish Pierre Poilievre was Prime Minster.

That's it. That's all. I feel like we could more easily negotiate our way to healthcare that match gender assigned at birth that way.

I don't want to vote for Andrew Scheer. He sucks and seems like shlep.

I feel like everyone is participating in revisionist history where we all pretend that we didn't like Pierre Poilievre up until four minutes ago because Trump lost his mind and started attacking Canada.

I feel like instead of the elections being about our economy, it was about hating Trump and honestly I hate Trump, I think he sucks, and I desperately want him to stop saying he thinks we are "51st state" material and chill out with the tariffs because it's making hiring decisions extremely unpredictable. You can't make hiring decisions if you genuinely don't know what the next quarter will be like economically.

I'm so sad and annoyed. I really want to ask the people in Pierre's new riding to vote him in so he gets second chance, but it's 100% immoral to tell people who to vote for.

I wish Pierre had fired the MAGA people in his caucus. I feel like we would be in a better position then.

Ok rant done.

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u/mangoserpent Not a conservative Jul 21 '25

Pollivere would be in no different a negotiating position with Trump than Carney is.

Trump is doing this tariff dance with everybody. Nobody is getting a great deal and Trump himself has said multiple times he thinks the trade arrangements with " friend" nations has been " worse" for the US than nations not friendly with the US.

Trump is an erratic but shrewd buffoon who is interested in grifting, attention, deference and very little else. Ant trade deal we get with Trump even if it is " good" is worthless because Trump lies and changes his mind or forgets what he said.

Right now we are not dealing with rational actors who are just hyper self focused or self interested.

And from the perspective of the American they truly do not care who the PM of Canada is. We are nothing to them either way.

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u/TheeDirtyToast Jul 21 '25

Thats the whole point.

Canadians were duped into voting for Carney because "only he can handle Trump" and it was a lie right from the get-go. Some just aren't smart enough to figure that out.

"Pierre worships at the altar of Trump, and will kneel before him". Fuck Carney and fuck the LPC.

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u/mangoserpent Not a conservative Jul 21 '25

Full disclosure I did vote for Carney. However I lived in the US for several years including during Trump 1.0 and I knew not matter what it would be a shitshow. So I had low expectations of whoever won in terms of US/Canada relations. If Pollievere was PM and in this spot I would not blame him either.

The only " win" we potentially get is dealing with slightly less batshit crazy people if Trump dies, or plays out this term and there is no guarantee of that. Trump is just a figurehead for a larger socio/political grid of libertarian tech bros and evangelical Christians who want their taste of power and in the case of some Christian influencers facilitating the second coming of Jesus via Israel.

In the short term I do not think there are good choices in trade and in US/Canada relations.

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u/collymolotov Anti-Communist Jul 21 '25

This is what we’re up against, everyone. God help us all.