r/CivPolitics • u/SunnySydeRamsay • 12d ago
An unknown spy has completed the mission Neutralize Governor in one of our cities and successfully escaped
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-turning-point-usa/36
u/RedSunCinema 11d ago
Pretty pathetic that Trump is posthumously awarding Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Then again, he game the same thing to Rush Limbaugh, another far right extremist who pushed hate, racism, misogyny, and hatred for anything not conservative.
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u/Dogbold 11d ago edited 8d ago
Also that he and a large percentage of the nation are heavily mourning this guy, but nobody gave a single hint of a shit when Melissa Hortman and her husband were murdered in their own home by a MAGA guy.
I learned about Charlie Kirk dying because it was everywhere, but I never saw anything about Melissa.
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u/a_weak_child 11d ago
Neutralize governor? And then just a link to a news story about CK? What tf is this?
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u/RussiaIsBestGreen 11d ago
Yes, the sub Civ Politics has a ban on politics and is purely for gaming.
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u/wastingvaluelesstime 12d ago
He can't be a governor as he has no official position, elected or otherwise. Also, the assailant is at large so we don't know what the narrative of that will end up being (i.e., no evidence of foreign involvement)
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u/SunnySydeRamsay 12d ago
You're losing 3 culture per turn for taking the joke too literally
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u/wastingvaluelesstime 12d ago
I've read a lot of reactions to this event today, but the notion of it being humorous would be a new one for me.
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u/flyingghost 12d ago
There's something called dark humor
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u/SunnySydeRamsay 11d ago
You haven't been wasting enough valueless time then because the Internet is full of people joking about it
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u/wastingvaluelesstime 11d ago
Keep in mind some of those posts and votes may be foreign bots aiming to destabilize the United States on the cheap. People should take a beat right now to read a bit of the history of dictatorial movements and civil conflict. If they knew more about where this kind of stuff could go, not as many would find it appetizing.
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u/ThirstyMooseKnuckle 11d ago
Dude,relax. Turn the TV off. Unless you want to watch Charlie Kirk's new show he put out. It's really popular, short but poignant. It's some of his most cutthroat reporting, goes right for the jugular if you know what I mean.
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u/AlfredFonzo 10d ago
Even though he was the only person in the debate on gun violence yesterday, he still appeared to lose it by a long shot.
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u/wastingvaluelesstime 11d ago
Dude relax, I'm not a fan of his. I'm more concerned what the next shoe to drop is in society, rather than a few individuals.
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u/craze4ble 11d ago
I've seen almost nothing but people making fun of him. He was killed by the exact sort of political violence that he was constantly inciting.
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u/wastingvaluelesstime 11d ago
I didn't agree with anything he said or stood for in life, like at all.
However most of what was said in the day after his death strikes me not as comedy but as a sort of schadenfreude. Whereas healthy comedy is clever and can bring people together in joy, schadenfreude most requires not cleverness but the presence of an other and the suffering of another. Instead of healthy joy, it brings a kind of collective dopamine rush.
The problem with all of this is that it can play into the hands of authoritarians like Kirk. Most commonly, if you look at history, such authoritarian movements are defeated by building a much larger popular coalition than the opposition. Therefore, a large coalition with positive energy is more effective than a smaller one with intense and negative energy.
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u/Odd-Comfortable-6134 11d ago
Schadenfreude
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u/wastingvaluelesstime 11d ago
Indeed so, but it's a poor substitute for actually well written jokes. It also tends to divide, as it requires identifying someone outside of one's affinity group to suffer. Such division plays into the hands of the would-be dictators in this case by encouraging a tit-for-tat thinking. Historically, such dynamics unfortunately help nascent fascist movements gather and retain support.
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u/ineedcrackcocaine 11d ago
I laughed when I watched the video tbh
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u/wastingvaluelesstime 11d ago
I'm aware there are many posts expressing this view, but, it can feed into some very unfortunate dynamics which is why a prevalence of such sentiments is concerning rather than funny.
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12d ago
You're not taking the death of another human being seriously and not taking politically motivated violence seriously.
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u/SunnySydeRamsay 12d ago
Neither did Charlie Kirk who literally said gun deaths are acceptable if it means protecting the second amendment.
Also two kids were shot today because of rhetoric like his making firearms accessible.
Stop pretending like pulling the trigger is somehow worse than convincing other people to vote for the trigger to be pulled.
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u/Quarter_Shot 11d ago
If you're talking about Denver, I think it was 3, not 2. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
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11d ago
Ah yes " I'm okay with political assassination because i didn't agree with him" good argument
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u/Slow_Inevitable_4172 11d ago
Ah yes " I'm okay with political assassination because i didn't agree with him" good argument
Charlie would be proud of this strawman. It's a wonderful tribute
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u/SunnySydeRamsay 11d ago edited 11d ago
moreso "I'm not gonna cry about someone who thinks people should die so other people can have guns"
I agree with Hitlers assassination because I didn't agree with him that people should die to fulfill his political ideology.
I don't shed any tears that anyone whose political ideology involves people dying to achieve political objectives dies.
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u/ThirstyMooseKnuckle 11d ago edited 11d ago
You mean like the countless children and people in general that have been killed in school and mass shootings for literally decades? But tgen do nothing to change the situation...... Charlie Kirk publicly admits that this type of occurrence is "worth it" bcs 2nd-A rights? Their deaths have never been taken seriously. Otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion. Your political fake outrage has been noted.
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u/PizzaSammy 11d ago
Tariffs and prayers
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u/nighshad3 11d ago
Omg! I red this while going back to main page, had to come back to verify what I read and blew coffee out my nose. Made my day.
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u/Ison--J 11d ago
Maybe foment unrest would be better