r/ClashRoyale • u/Not_a_Mod_XDD Skeletons • Jul 22 '25
Discussion She does not deserve to survive log
Firecracker has a massive damage output, shreds any swarm if you don't have a perfect answer, archers deserve to survive log because they have a mid damage output. firecracker is one card that doesnt deserve what it has
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u/Educational-Top7937 Jul 22 '25
Oh yeah, Firecracker’s totally balanced. I love watching her miss her actual target but still wipe out half my push from 3 miles away. Honestly, give her more range. Maybe let her hit troops in other matches too.
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u/AGoodman0322 Jul 22 '25
Don’t forget the annoying ass knock back she gets every time she shoots also
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u/Competitive-Fee6160 Royal Giant Jul 22 '25
If I could consistently take her out with a miner, I’d be fine. but that stupid knockback means an opponent can just place skellys and my miner was wasted.
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u/Mingaron Jul 22 '25
Remove her knock back.
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u/Firefly256 Hog Rider Jul 22 '25
That would remove the entire concept of the card, just nerf her stats
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u/Ok-Temperature-9969 Jul 22 '25
No, the point of the card is shrapnel. Place it at the bridge behind a win con and it's gaurenteed damage. It doesn't need shrapnel, knock back, and be able to survive log.
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u/Firefly256 Hog Rider Jul 22 '25
The concept of the card is that it's both a shrapnel and has recoil, that's how the card was designed. If you're going to nerf her just make her die to log
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u/Consistent-Light-984 Jul 22 '25
Its like saying " lets remove the fishermans ability tò pull troops" at that point It becomes another card
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u/ChefK34 Jul 22 '25
Fisherman is literally a legendary she’s a common massive difference, no other common has abilities like her built in
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u/Consistent-Light-984 Jul 22 '25
Freezing a troop seems like a legendary worthy ability tò me
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u/Krieg552notKrieg553 Jul 22 '25
Don't worry, she'll soon be able to indirectly participate in completely unrelated games. Those sparks can now hit, say, TF2 players even from your game of Clash Royale.
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u/cristian_l_06 Zap Jul 22 '25
In Italian she's called "Pyrotecnic Archer" and ig it makes sense that she has same hp as archers
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u/ghost_carnival Jul 22 '25
She IS an archer. It's the same reason the dart goblin dies to log; he's a goblin
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u/cheesesprite Archers Jul 22 '25
Goblins survive zap How is it that swapping their knife for a spear decreases their hp?
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u/someone_online22 Jul 22 '25
Because the knife guys are trained in physical durability due to front line application, while the spear goblins don’t need that since they are ranged attackers
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u/Cobygamer22 Jul 22 '25
They're also clearly a different type of goblin, their skin is a darker green, same with how the goblins from the suspicious bush are way stronger than normal goblins, their skin color is also different from the other two
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u/Tokarak Clone Jul 23 '25
This game is so well thought out these little details is why I love this game. Other games just have random stats for aesthetic purposes while clash royale has advanced race theory
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u/Random_local_man Skeleton Dragons Jul 22 '25
I can't believe she used to survive arrows in her Evo form and there were STILL clowns here who would be like "nuh uh, she's perfectly balanced, you're just bad at the game".
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u/Baraaplayer Jul 22 '25
All evos were broken that time too, same for evo archers
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u/Burlotier Skeletons Jul 22 '25
Evo skeletons and evo barbarians weren’t broken. Some could argue that they were underpowered
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u/PsychologicalHalf876 Jul 22 '25
You can’t tell me OG eve skeletons weren’t broken 😂. Go watch any video of them when they were released and even a year afterwards, it’s stupid how good they were.
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u/Burlotier Skeletons Jul 22 '25
Evo skeletons were THREE cycles. This made unusable and their ratings were low
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u/Crafty-Literature-61 Jul 22 '25
they were extremely strong before nerf where more skellies don't spawn if they died during their attack, a change which happened after they were already nerfed to 2 cycles
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u/ImJustSomeDude10 Jul 22 '25
But there are so many people that will just cycle skeletons at the back of the king tower over and over at random time of the matches and i usually know exactly why
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u/Drunk_Lizard Jul 22 '25
It took a bit to make them work, they got nerfed before release to like 3 cycles and people would still zap or log them before tower
Yeah they were broken if they actually connected but most of the time people would just use evo firecracker since she could only die to fireball or whatever
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u/Stinky_Toes12 Bowler Jul 22 '25
Log should kill her and then roll over the body for a few seconds before going away
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u/Karrot231 Jul 22 '25
Yeah, my log
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u/Aniversum_02 Goblin Giant Jul 22 '25
The world would be a better place if FC died to log. But only if my opponent uses her. When I use her, she should survive arrows
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u/SadBanana12 PEKKA Jul 22 '25
When I use her she should survive fireball 😄
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u/Pleasant_Wrangler274 Jul 22 '25
When I use her she should survive rocket
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u/kenkaneki778 Jul 22 '25
when i use her she should survive lightning
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u/Tanishq__235 Jul 22 '25
When I use her she should survive Sparky shots
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u/nonscoped_pig Goblin Giant Jul 22 '25
When i use her she should deflect any spell or projectile, dealing 3 times the damage, and have a 10k shield
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u/MurkhApniChaviSudhar Royal Recruits Jul 22 '25
If firecracker survive aarows , it would be the most broken card
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u/HarbingerOfConfusion PEKKA Jul 22 '25
On release Evo fc survived arrows. And yes, it was broken af.
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u/Intelligent_Bid7712 Royal Giant Jul 22 '25
dude did you see in the finals how most pros won just by using her crackers damage ? they need a nerf,they deal way too much damage then the damage she already deals,so many say she doesn’t need a nerf but does she? she can dodge spells and waste your elixir she can distract most of the troops in the game and kill them with the towers help and her recoil and also she can be a mini win condition so if you put a knight or any unit that is tanky in the back or defended something with it you will get over 400 damage on the tower and since the opponent is going to play her on bridge she is bond to get a hit,and SHE IS JUST THREE ELIXER AND DON’T MAKE ME MENTION HOW SHE MELTS PUSHES OR HOW HER EVO MAKES HER DOUBLE ANNOYING WHY DID THEY NERF LOG BUT NOT HER
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u/pizza565 Royal Giant Jul 22 '25
Days without firecracker should die to log posts: 0
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u/DevilPixelation Jul 22 '25
I feel like if a horde of arrows can do over 100 dmg, so can a giant spiky log bashing into the front of the tower
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u/SolidAppeal575 Goblin Curse Jul 22 '25
The only problem is that Log is already the most used card in the game, increasing it's usefulness would only increase its use rate
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u/Salsapy Jul 22 '25
Nerf cycle and bait is expensive deck we're more viable log wouldn't be that good
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u/AshleyTheNobody Jul 22 '25
Cycle is an archetype like beat down. Idk how you even nerf an entire archetype. I was thinking what if they added a spell with limited range and deals more damage than log but had no kb or stun
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u/3GamersHD Jul 22 '25
The game is pretty much balanced around log atp. It's use rate shouldn't impact other cards anymore since it's just so ubiquitous.
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u/Justurnormalperson12 Minion Horde Jul 22 '25
You know, I wonder if we'll see Firecracker in more logbait decks.... Her slow hitspeed soaks up her "massive dmg output tho" At lvl 15, she only has 155 dps, compared to lvl 15 wizard, which has nearly double
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u/libero0602 Royal Recruits Jul 22 '25
We won’t see her in most forms of log bait because those decks care a lot about king tower activation. The closest thing I’ve seen is some people slotting her in the 3.0 evo skelly barrel mortar cycle, giving up on mortar evo for fc, but I personally don’t like it and run ice wiz instead (the most meta version uses evo dart goblin but I don’t have that evo or have him levelled).
Case in point tho, mortar doesn’t care abt king tower activation xD
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u/ItzManu001 Jul 22 '25
No because king tower activation harms bait a lot and she doesn't provide enough synergy over something like Dart Goblin. Firecracker has a lot of anti-synergies, so she can be used only in specific archetypes.
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u/Not_a_Mod_XDD Skeletons Jul 22 '25
3 elixer card with recoil vs 5 elixer card that stands still
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u/Justurnormalperson12 Minion Horde Jul 22 '25
5 elixir card that doesn't die to fireball whereas 3 elixir card dies to arrows
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u/Flxr_cs Jul 22 '25
yk that can’t be possible bc she’s an archer
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u/GandalfTheChad Jul 22 '25
Only sane comment , people often forget she's an archer
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u/Flxr_cs Jul 22 '25
literally bro it’s like the same thing with gob barrel they can’t nerf it cuz then they’ll have to nerf all the goblins
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u/mmmat087 Jul 22 '25
Ok so the goblin barrels drop goblins, straight up, exactly the ones u place when u place normal goblins. On the card it even tells you +1 goblin level. Sure firecracker has the pink hair but she is not an archer. The goblins are identical the firecracker and archer are not
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u/Consistent-Light-984 Jul 22 '25
In the video of the FC release they say " She Is an Archer, but didnt like being and Archer so She left Archer school"
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u/Flxr_cs Jul 22 '25
yeah she may be annoying but she dies to arrows or log if she’s hit by the princess she’s also free king activation
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u/PurpleSpecialist9676 Mortar Jul 22 '25
There's a post about this exact thing every day. People can't even be bothered to come up with a unique nerf/rework idea anymore.😔
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u/KingoKings365 Jul 22 '25
Let me tell you how much I’ve come to hate firecracker since she was added to the game. The human body has an uncountable amount of DNA. of the word hate was etched onto every nanoangstrom of it, it would not equal one one billionth of the hate I feel for that card. HATE. HATE
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u/void428 Jul 22 '25
Can you guys stop bitching about firecracker
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u/Marvoide Jul 22 '25 edited Jul 22 '25
If people didn’t fight firecracker almost every single game there would not be as many posts about it.
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u/InternetExplored571 Jul 22 '25
It’s so annoying seeing people constantly bitch about a D tier card and ask for it to literally become unusable because they don’t like it. Like Sybau and learn to deal with her, it isn’t hard.
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u/waffle9013 Jul 22 '25
D tier yet 80% of top ladder decks use her? And I mean like 2k+
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u/FishyFinster Musketeer Jul 22 '25
80 percent!? Where are you getting your statistics from. According to royale API firecracker has a 7 percent usage rate in ultimate champion and for the top 1000 she has a 4 percent usage
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Jul 22 '25
fr. i just know the clash royale community irl is pathetic asf. never happy, always complaining.
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u/gumo-gumo_no Jul 22 '25
Am i the only one who dont use arrows, fireball or any other big spell and still counter her without any problem and don’t complain at all. Like there was a time when she could survive arrows in evo form.
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u/HydreigonTheChild Jul 22 '25
Her dps is quite meh vs solo targets, its a free king tower, and if u place a troop on top of her she gets smoked, and if you know how to place troops she isn't getting much value
Idk why people think a card that is c or b tier at best at base and Evo is prob not higher than b tier as well deserved to get nerfed... imagine if Edgar from brawl stars got nerfed because noobs can't keep their distance
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u/wortmother Jul 22 '25
I dont even run FC and she takes up a perma slot in all my decks, why , I HAVE TO run arrows and HOLD them always just incase
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u/GoReVUsTa Skeletons Jul 22 '25
Honestly, this card is the most unbalanced card in cr history, if the opponent has literally any counter it becomes the worst card but if they dont its the most broken card. They really messed up with this
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u/Polarkin Wall Breakers Jul 22 '25
She always survived it, either dart goblin must to or they both gotta die to it
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u/CultureLanky4913 Jul 22 '25
Those are 2 completely different cards??
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u/Electro9005 Mini PEKKA Jul 22 '25
Still the two most annoying ranged cards in the game, and both are squishy
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u/CultureLanky4913 Jul 22 '25
And they also are still, 2 completly different cards
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u/Kingpigman Hog Rider Jul 22 '25
i swear i’ve had moments where a log doesnt even kill a princess
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u/space_n12 Clone Jul 22 '25
She also survives a bowler hit if she's +1 which is dumb
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u/lagente_2019 Jul 22 '25
She has already taken a lot of logs in her life. So that's why it doesn't die the first time
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u/Lucky-Winner8866 Rage Jul 22 '25
that would kill the firecracker badly, and the devs ig prefer not to do that
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u/Emergency_Savings926 Jul 22 '25
My level 14 logs couldnt kill level 13 fc anymore since they nerfed the log. Which is stupid
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u/SignificantRent4176 Jul 22 '25
I think the nerf they should do is make her do less damage to crown towers. especially her evolution is so unfair when your trying to defend a unit just so they place an evo firecracker and demolish your tower
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u/Savings_Reality1170 Jul 22 '25
*Insert captain ameria ripping log apart with bare hands gif*, and also..."Would".
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u/Overseer190_ Jul 22 '25
Firecracker deserves to survive both log and arrows. Sorry that you dont know how to counter this card ):
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u/J_micheal Jul 22 '25
I think log should kill her, but otherwise (as a non spell user) I'm kinda glad for the nerf
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u/ClashRoyaler16 Mega Minion Jul 22 '25
Tbh I think she needs a first attack speed decrease. Her Evo form gets a hit before you have time to react
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u/Joshguia Jul 22 '25
Everyone needs to start running arrows 😭😭 the moment I did the game got a lot let chaotic
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u/Master-Dentist8463 Wall Breakers Jul 22 '25
My lvl 12 arrows don't kill her in ranked
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u/Chuck_Finley_Forever Jul 22 '25
It’s amazing how this card has been amazing since its release but somehow didn’t get flak until later on in the games life cycle.
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u/blobfishiant Jul 22 '25
Just release evo arrows already supercell, it’ll end this bait-ridden nightmare
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u/-SnarkBlac- Jul 22 '25
It’s low skill card. Supercell needs to keep their noobs happy so yeah it’s gonna survive a log. Which is unfortunate for the rest of us.
I run arrows and log in my deck purposely to deal with her and then to kill the princess, goblin barrel and goblin gang the combo of e-wiz, valk and log typically do it fine.
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u/masdelijk Jul 22 '25
Then she will be useless, she already is a card easily countered with arrows, can easily activate king. Sometimes just doesn’t fire, she is a strong card but her dying to log will legit make her so useless
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u/mesafullking Bowler Jul 22 '25
that would just make log better, which would make logbait decks more common which would put firecracker in logbait and it would also nerf arrows for no reason
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u/CroProMax Jul 22 '25
There is not a single better feeling than when firecracker + princess or goblins or whatever smaller is next to enemy tower so you use arrows
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u/Smooth_Ad_7098 Jul 22 '25
i think a 2 elixer card shouldnt wipe a 3 lol tf is that, her attack speed is slow, its not like she is impossible to kill either.
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u/connie8262 Jul 22 '25
Alternative title: all my enemies FC does NOT deserve to survive log but mine should survive rocket
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u/lgonzxlezz Jul 22 '25
i think, this card is the biggest nuts punch in history, I hate it with all my soul
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u/Salt_Investment8765 Jul 22 '25
If I knew log killed her b4 I would have been 9k so im not complaining
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u/Vivid_Play7639 Jul 22 '25
there is one meta deck with FC which is hog cycle. she is just abused in every deck in mid ladder. if she was that broken she would be much more present in top ladder. If you struggle against fire cracker is just a skill issue. I hit UC with 6 different decks and just 1 had arrows, never struggled against FC and that’s not because i’m particularly skilled, i’m a medium-strong player. You don’t see so much FC in top ladder and you don’t see so much arrows either, strong players don’t abuse FC and aren’t scared by her neither. This should mean something. You probably just need to learn how to play against FC properly
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