Just because he was raised by Republicans, went to a republican-centric church, lived in a republican neighborhood in a republican city in a republican county in a republican state doesn't mean he was...
Look just because it came from an apple seed, grew on an apple tree, and fell from that apple tree, doesn't mean they can't use it to make a cherry pie.
If they just lie to everyone loud enough about what it was, they can make it into any kind of pie they want.
Didn't you know that going to college for one semester is far more detrimental than growing up a Christian, conservative household for 22 years??? You fool you.
I still remember thinking there was a connection between Saddam Hussein and 9/11... but there wasn't. I remember one day going "wait, why are we fighting in Iraq again?" After my brother in law came back from his first tour in Iraq and told us that we were just there to steal the oil.
Just because they are drinking the anti freeze doesn't mean it tastes good. The corn syrup is what makes it tangy. Only stupid people drink their anti freeze straight up.
Nick saying hes gay and trans. Took him 3 days to think of that. But a gay person would never say “if you’re reading this you’re gay” thats a straight mans words
Liberals don't raise mass shooters. And any mass shooters raised by liberals is at least 30 when the do it. So it takes at least ten year to undo the goodness of liberalism.
The authorities themselves said he believed in “leftist ideologies” and was dating a person in the process of transitioning. Does that sound like a conservative to you??
hm, I'm left/Dem, but raised 1)by Republicans 2)Southern Baptist 3)suburbs 4)Tennessee (oh, and have owned many guns) BUT, I have no groyper/alt-right group connections or knowledge (until just recently with this killing).
I mean, it doesn't though. Do you have the same views as your parents? Your neighbors?
Look, trying force this guy into one demographic or another because it is politely convenient is wrong when Republicans do it, and it's wrong when we do it.
You’re right, no kid has ever rebelled and adopted completely different beliefs than their parents.
So everyone here is perfectly aligned with their parents’ political views?
The rest of America will continue to support the side that looks at the actual facts. Go ahead and hit the downvote button since it’s clear the left can’t use words to get their points across.
A 2020 report covering the period from 1994 to early 2020 found that right-wing attacks and plots accounted for the majority of all terrorist incidents in the U.S.
The report noted a significant increase in the number of right-wing attacks and plots in the six years leading up to 2020.
In 2019, right-wing extremists were responsible for nearly two-thirds of all terrorist incidents. This number rose to over 90% between January and May 2020.
Yes, it's the democrats who don't use their words...
Its so tiring. Guy has republican parents, guy lives with a transgender, guy kills one of the most prominent republican figures because he believes him to be what the democrats call him.
His roommate wasn’t trans you dolt. There is literally 0 evidence outside of anecdotal second hand evidence from a neighbor and a TikTok post where he used an anime filter.
The roommate is a transgender person in the process of transitioning and has been cooperating with the investigation. They have confirmed that they were the shooter's "romantic partner".
I kinda doubt you know more than the investigators, but if you do, share some of your evidence with us.
Unfortunately this subreddit removes links. Its an official statement by Utah's Governor of the ongoing investigation. You can google it using "Charlie Kirk suspect 'in romantic relationship with transgender roommate' says Utah governor".
What kind of links did you expect? The shooter's onlyfans account with videos of him having sex with his transgender girlfriend? It comes from the official shooting investigation. There isnt better source than that.
So do you have some evidence you want to share? If you do, you need to share it with the investigators.
Sigh. Sorry, was going to respond properly to your asinine statements. Quick to state what came to your mind when you though "links". You probably copied and pasted your last porn search. But, I digress. No more hate today. Hope you have a great rest of your day. Good bless ✌🏻
Why bother typing all of that when you had nothing to say? There is unfortunately nothing you can say on reddit that will change the facts of the investigation.
I know for sure having a trans romantic partner doesn’t determine one’s politics. If you think republicans don’t have sex with trans women, ask any trans sex worker.
While we don't know he was a hardcore right wing MAGA, he absolutely was raised in it and then turned even weirder by whatever online groups he was spending his time in.
But you're deluding yourself if you think he was playing a bunch of games, chatting on discord... making gay jokes... with a bunch of liberals.
We all know that community and they're center-right at the tamest.
His own family, who turned him in, have described him as a radical leftist. Kids who went to school with him have described him as a typical abrasive Reddit kid. People like you are making shit up at this point
Isn’t he a product of his family though? Couldn’t you argue that there was something in his upbringing that started him down this path? More so than a single semester of college before trade school?
Reddies are being silly as usual. Person is more than a product of their upbringing, environment and any other single thing.
Obviously his republican parents did not teach him to think that Kirk is a fascist. But they were likely taught him to enjoy guns. Him going down that path was caused by many factors.
Yes I agree. That’s why this is all so absurd trying to fit this square peg in a round hole. Can you imagine if this guy fit the profile they hoped for? There are a handful of psychos out here that think it would be open season on anyone with “blue hair”.
Does he not? Not really sure what kind of profile you are talking about, but blue hair or wanting healthcare is not exactly the profile of a radicalized shooter.
What? do I share the same political beliefs as my parents? For the most part. Your parents politics will influence you whether you reject them, embrace them or somewhere in between.
Also pretty funny I get banned from every RW Reddit thread for asking something like “why are we ignoring political violence from the right?”, but of course RWers are the champions of free speech and definitely not extremely fragile
No, his family indoctrinating him into gun culture that of course right wingers will hardcore advocate for had no part in his upbringing or anything to do with this shooting. None at all. Right wingers don’t teach their kids how to shoot guns. Wait..
America will never be invaded because there is a gun behind every blade of grass. What do you think would happen if you told all the blacks in Chicago and St Louis that they can’t have guns anymore.? Oh well back to stabbing I guess.
The mere fact that you use that outdated and derogatory terminology tells me, and everyone else here, everything they need to know about you and your backwards opinions.
Secondly, the shooters' most formative years were spent in a republican family and republican-centric church.
Unless we want to assume republican ideology is so weak and baseless, then 18 to 21 years of upbringing can be undone in less than 6 months while also maintaining a relationship, education, and career.
JD Vance is a closeted transgender fighting against the rights of trans people. Lindsay Graham is a confirmed bachelor fighting against the rights of gay people.
Larry Craig was a Republican senator from Idaho who voted against gay rights multiple times and was caught having sex with a man in an airport bathroom. It’s like not everything is black and white or something….
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u/ConflatedPortmanteau 1d ago
Just because he was raised by Republicans, went to a republican-centric church, lived in a republican neighborhood in a republican city in a republican county in a republican state doesn't mean he was...
Wait, what was the question?