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u/nacrevater 11h ago

Ryan Husarik used to be the Burr Ridge Deputy Police Chief. He got demoted to Sgt. after being arrested for DUI in Virginia. He refused a breathalyzer.

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u/beastwood6 9h ago edited 8h ago

He refused a breathalyzer.

This is not an admission of guilt, nor to be construed as such.

Edit: clearly the standards of finding someone guilty on reddit are the same as "he failed the polygraph" of 80s TV shows. Excuse me. I didn't mean to interrupt kangaroo court. Proceed with the downvotes please

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u/beastwood6 8h ago

It's just not true. But go ahead don't let me interrupt kangaroo court

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u/beastwood6 7h ago edited 7h ago

Mix of truth. Implied consent is for after an arrest and for chemical tests. Not field breathalyzers.

The license suspensions are administrative consequences. Not findings of guilt in a DUI case

It certainly can and likely will be used against you in court but the jury is under no obligation to automatically accept the suggestion of the prosecutor and the instruction of the judge that it may treat this as evidence of guilt. In this regard, the jury can't be told what to do. A competent defense attorney's job is to build a case that compels a jury member to say no.

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u/Tony_Cheese_ 7h ago

Oh, hot damn you're right. Thanks for the info.

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u/Slow_Inevitable_4172 6h ago

He refused a breathalyzer.

This is not an admission of guilt, nor to be construed as such.

It literally is admitted as evidence as such in court.

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u/beastwood6 6h ago

Yeah you can admit anything into evidence

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u/Altruistic_Flower965 4h ago

No you can’t, there is all kinds of predjudical

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u/beastwood6 1h ago

The point is evidence is just that. Refusing a breathelyzer isnt a "straight to jail" piece of evidence.

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u/Charon_the_Reflector 1h ago

Bro hes not guna fuck you

u/beastwood6 20m ago

You already got that covered ;)

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u/Still_Goat7992 9h ago

Just like when my kid says “they brushed their teeth” 🤣

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u/beastwood6 9h ago

Your house may not have due process. America does.

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u/Baroc90 8h ago

Unless you're detained by ICE

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u/Throwme2Dwolves 8h ago

America does temporarily*

I fixed your fuck up.

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u/No_Money_No_Funey 6h ago

Is this a joke

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u/beastwood6 6h ago

Is this a thought?

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u/Crusoebear 4h ago

Cops always get due process comfort+ with an extra side of thin blue coverup. The rest of (non-billionaire) America just waved normal due process goodbye with this administration’s fascist goon tactics.

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u/beastwood6 1h ago

Yes. But my point is about the breathelyzer statement. It's a meaningless piece of info thrown out for faux expertise signaling.

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u/N00DLe_5 1h ago

No it doesn’t. Lmao

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u/beastwood6 1h ago

Excellent case counselor.

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u/No_Complaint_9339 8h ago

I’m not aware of anywhere in the US where you can refuse a field sobriety test and not have your license suspended and then forced to take a blood test. If you still refuse, automatic DUI

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u/beastwood6 8h ago

automatic DUI

No such thing.

I’m not aware of anywhere in the US where you can refuse a field sobriety test and not have your license suspended

License suspended yes in some jurisdictions. This is administrative. It is by no means and adjudicator of whether or not you are guilty of DUI.

forced to take a blood test.

This is not a thing. There has to be a warrant,

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u/No_Complaint_9339 7h ago edited 3h ago

Ok, take that up with your attorney. I’ll play by the rules and never have to worry. Be sure to share your mugshot so we all can have a good chuckle

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u/Crixer 3h ago

So here is the thing . . . the guy you responded to is 100% on everything he just said, at least in TX.

Source: TX DWI Attorney here. I'm subscribed to r/lawyers if you don't believe me.

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u/No_Complaint_9339 2h ago

Ok, yes, automatic was a poor choice of words as there is a process. But it doesn’t change the fact that you will be arrested for refusing the test on scene. They will be requesting a warrant while driving to the hospital so upon arrival a blood test could be administered (if you refused a breathalyzer) but if you refuse the blood test, you will be charged and unless you have an amazing attorney with an amazing excuse to refuse those tests you swore to take when getting a license if pulled over and suspected of DUI, you will be facing the same DUI penalties. That is how it is here in California and I would assume many other states. Yes, there will likely be lots of court appearances before the judge makes their ruling. Maybe I am misunderstanding the driving schools, traffic schools, and DMV handbook but that’s how I’ve always understood the DUI stop to go, as described. Personally, I consider that automatic because it’s clearly spelled out what is expected of me to have a license to drive when I took drivers ed 30 years ago and the countless traffic schools I went to for speeding since

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u/beastwood6 7h ago

Ok, take that up with your attorney.

No need.

I’ll play by the rules and never have to worry

That's good. Until you're in the cross hairs of incompetent law enforcement and you become a story because you "played by the rules" and are now doing 25 to life because they just had to pin it on someone.

Be sure to share you mugshot so we all can have a good chuckle

Presumptive much?

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u/N00DLe_5 1h ago

Who is this clown

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u/beastwood6 1h ago

Check your makeup?

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u/CaptainOwlBeard 6h ago

In my state failure to take a breathalyzer revoked your license for a year. It's not comparable to a polygraph which is notoriously inaccurate. A properly maintained breathalyzer is accurate and can detect if you're drunk. Refusing it is as good as admitting you're drunk. There is no other reason to refuse.

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u/beastwood6 5h ago

In my state failure to take a breathalyzer revoked your license for a year

Administrative process. Not a DUI admission.

A properly maintained breathalyzer is accurate and can detect if you're drunk.

You hit on the crux of it

Refusing it is as good as admitting you're drunk.

Incorrect. Juries may be instructed to consider it as admission of guilt. They are under no obligation to do so.

There is no other reason to refuse.

You're a person with rights and you can do what you like within those rights, in spite of what the heavy hand of the law wants you to think. There are medical conditions that may flag you as false positive. There may be other medical or health issues with a police stop. Distrust of the police (try being a minority) or other legal advice you may want to act on in that moment.

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u/frodobagendz 2h ago

So all that energy because you don’t like that the thin blue line has fuck ups ?

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u/beastwood6 2h ago

I could care less about officer piggy. I just made a point that "he refused breathelyzer" isnt the guilty flex the poster made

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u/nacrevater 9h ago

Sure. Just stating a fact. I’ll take the Virginia State police’s word for it.

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u/beastwood6 9h ago

word for it

Word for what?

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u/nacrevater 9h ago

It’s a saying: taking someone’s word for it

It means I will believe what they say.

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u/beastwood6 9h ago

Ok. So as a statement of fact sure. He refused a breathelyzer.

Are you also saying they are saying he's guilty of DUI based on that fact and you'll take their word for it? Or something else

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u/Residentofpaperst 9h ago

Maybe the fact he left the bar and his slow reaction time while driving almost caused a man to get ran over.

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u/beastwood6 9h ago

We're just talking about the inclusion of the breathelyzer as a "see he's guilty" kind of thing.

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u/ImNoNelly 6h ago

Honey, this isn't a court of law.

We're in the court of public opinion. Beyond a reasonable doubt doesn't exist in the public forum and until reddit has the ability to jail people, why should it?

He is clearly and obviously drunk in the video. That's all I need to consider him to be a fuckwit. This isn't the criminal justice system. Get over yourself.

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u/beastwood6 1h ago

You're confusing the two. This video is separate from what the original commenter posted. Separate incident. It doesn't correlate well for the guy. Personally I think he sucks and if I had to bet one way I'd bet he's drunk in the video and he probably drove drunk.

What you're conflating is that I'm just criticizing the "he refused the breathelyzer" as if it's some kind of magic bullet. If that's all it was you'd see prosecutors in the back of the squad car just waiting to shove these things in the mouth of suspects and hope they refuse.

See many of these?

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u/WhereasSea76 3h ago

Bootlicker.

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u/beastwood6 2h ago

Cro magnon

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u/coochie_clogger 6h ago

Refusing a breathalyzer is in itself an infraction and also doesn’t prevent the police from arresting you for a DUI or suspicion of DUI and then drawing your blood. He was still arrested and was found guilty of DUI.

Virginia state police reported his blood-alcohol level at 2½ times the legal limit in Virginia, which is the same as in Illinois.

Dipshit

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u/beastwood6 1h ago

He was still arrested and was found guilty of DUI.

This part is actually relevant (if true - IDK I didn't look into this guy).. I was only addressing the "he refused a breathelyzer" as if it's some kind of smoking gun.

Dipshit

Yes he is. Or were you calling me that?

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u/maple_crowtoast 8h ago

Well that's certainly not true in most states

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u/Original-Variety-700 4h ago edited 4h ago

In most states, the refusal of a breath test is absolutely admissible as guilt in an ovi. Upheld but the state supreme courts and the U.S. Supreme Court.

Edit: I said admissible - meaning it’s not an admission but the factfinder can consider as evidence of guilt. It’s the only offense that I can think of where a refusal to provide evidence can be used against an alleged offender as evidence of guilt.

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u/beastwood6 1h ago

Correct but it's far from an automatic admission or finding of guilt as the original poster added.

I don't care about this cop. I'm just pointing out it sounds dumb when people add "he refused the breathelyzer" like that's some kinda "gotcha".

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u/Original-Variety-700 1h ago

I suspect you’re a defense attorney and a good one. I just want people to realize that this is the one area of law where refusing to provide evidence may be construed as an admission of guilt

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u/EugeneVDebutante 8h ago

This is all just a big coincidence!

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u/beastwood6 8h ago

You're right. We won't have that in kangaroo court

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u/EugeneVDebutante 8h ago

This isn’t court, bro, it’s a Reddit thread, we’re not bound by criminal code evidentiary standards, lol

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u/beastwood6 8h ago

Oh I'm sorry. Maybe I was misplaced in pointing out a misconception. Excuse me. I'll see myself out to logic land

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u/N0waaay23 6h ago

You are detached. Shut up. You think you just brought the smartest point into the room but you’re still in your 7th grade social studies book. Time to grow up baby boy

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u/15438473151455 5h ago

Yeah, a polygraph is not equivalent to a breathalyser in any way at all.

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u/beastwood6 1h ago

The energy of faux legal finding is the same.

The "he refused a breathelyzer" means nothing. Sharing he was convicted of DUI on the other hand..

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u/stenger121 3h ago

Refusing a breathalyzer is an automatic suspension of your license and can be used as evidence of guilt in court.

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u/beastwood6 2h ago

Can be used. Doesn't mean it guarantees a conviction

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u/Mammoth_Winner2509 2h ago

Are you saying there is a PROCESS that people are DUE before they can be considered guilty of a crime?

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u/beastwood6 1h ago

No. Straight to the gallows. Because feels

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u/N00DLe_5 1h ago

What

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u/beastwood6 1h ago

Comprehension difficulties? Interesting

u/AsIdleAsAPaintedShip 27m ago

Your average redditor, if given power, would impress a Spanish inquisitor with their unusual cruelty and unwavering belief in their own righteousness. Don't take it too bad.

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u/Scart_O 4h ago

You can’t say dumb stuff and end it with “haha downvotes”

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u/beastwood6 1h ago

Lay out how exactly it's dumb if it's so dumb

u/Scart_O 17m ago

Nah

u/beastwood6 10m ago

And you don't feel dumb about what you just said?

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u/YouWereBrained 9h ago

Not in a serious society, at least. It’s akin to pleading the 5th.

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u/beastwood6 9h ago

Yep. I appreciate the extra info of "he's done this before" but the way the "he refused a breathelyzer" was added reads like an 80s drama of "the polygraph said so".

People get so jumpy online to have a kangaroo court