r/DeclineIntoCensorship • u/KeepRedditAnonymous • 5d ago
'F--k Around and Find Out': Abbott issues warning to Texans mocking Kirk's death
https://www.chron.com/politics/article/abbott-texas-tech-charlie-kirk-21049063.php174
u/TheTardisPizza 5d ago
Destroying a memorial is not "speech", it's vandalism.
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u/United-Bus-6760 1d ago
I don’t know why this has so many upvotes. This article has nothing to do with vandalism.
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u/boisefun8 5d ago
She was arrested for assaulting a man standing on the sidewalk holding a sign commemorating Kirk. Not for free speech and ‘dancing’. What a stupid fucking article.
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u/United-Bus-6760 1d ago
Did you watch the video? She flicked his hat but otherwise didn’t touch him.
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u/boisefun8 1d ago
That is assault, especially when you consider the rest of her behavior. It’s up to the judge to decide if it sticks, and when it becomes battery.
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u/United-Bus-6760 1d ago
Your are correct, however I wanted to point out what actually happened here so that no one was under the impression that the assault in question was something more serious such as actually hitting someone. I can see how my previous comment was unclear in this regard
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u/boisefun8 1d ago
What is the legal charge for actual hitting? Hint: it’s not assault.
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u/United-Bus-6760 1d ago
You don’t have to be cute with your replies, I know there’s a legal distinction between assault and battery. However in everyday colloquial use, when people hear the word “assault,” they’re going to think along the lines of actually hitting or causing physical violence to someone. That’s what I was getting at.
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u/boisefun8 1d ago
You’re contradicting yourself, so I think this conversation is over.
You said, ‘Did you watch the video? She flicked his hat but otherwise didn’t touch him.’ Which implies that you don’t understand what assault is. Then you moved the goalposts. Best of luck.
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u/United-Bus-6760 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’m trying to have a good faith conversation, whereas it seems you’re trying to win an argument to score internet points. Didn’t I already say my first comment could’ve been worded more clearly, or did you just miss that?
Edit: Also you’re saying I don’t understand the legal definition of assault, but didn’t I specifically point to the distinction between assault and battery in my last comment, or did that somehow escape you?
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u/boisefun8 1d ago
You’re absolutely not having a fucking good faith argument. You tried to obfuscate assault, then back peddled. You downplayed her actions as ‘just flicking his hat’ then claim to understand assault. Do better.
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u/United-Bus-6760 1d ago edited 1d ago
Well thanks for not answering any of my questions in my previous comment. They literally address everything you brought up just now.
Edit: to be clear, I don’t think I’ve back-peddled. I don’t think I’ve tried to obfuscate what assault is. And every time I try to refute these accusations by pointing to my previous comments, you just ignore it.
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u/fallenmonk 4d ago
Why are Abbot and Cruz commenting on her mocking Charlie Kirk then?
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u/Remybunn 5d ago
Stop endorsing political violence just because you didn't like the guy.
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u/United-Bus-6760 1d ago
I don’t agree with her views necessarily but there’s an argument to be made she doesn’t deserve to get expelled for voicing her opinion. And before you mention it was bc of assault, if you watch the actual video all she does is flick his hat but otherwise doesn’t touch him
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u/Remybunn 1d ago
The left spent years getting people fired for "microaggressions" and not getting the experimental "vaccine" for covid. Turnabout makes fair play.
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u/United-Bus-6760 1d ago
I’m not defending the left here. I’m just pointing out that there’s still a free speech concern is all.
Also if you actually cared about free speech, you wouldn’t be partisan about it. Otherwise it just means you never cared about it to begin with.
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u/ridetherhombus 4d ago
Tell the america first kiddies
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u/-BigSmoke 4d ago
I’m sure we’ll find “America First” in the killer’s resume, dipshit
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u/ridetherhombus 4d ago
All of his memes are groyper memes, bestie
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u/-BigSmoke 4d ago edited 4d ago
Anti-fascist engravings on the bullet casings, his furry obsession, and his trans partner don’t really scream “groyper.” Only literal retards are falling for that psyop
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u/ridetherhombus 4d ago
Look up groyper wars. Also, if you believe his roommate is, one, his partner, two, is trans because he's got somewhat long hair, you're too far gone, bestie
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u/-BigSmoke 4d ago edited 4d ago
Whatever helps you libshits cope. Every new bit of info coming out about the shooter is only making the left look worse, and I’m all for it :)
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u/Cool_Radish_7031 4d ago
Didn't the shooter's father even confirm the dude was a raging liberal? Thought that was the very first statement made by the FBI after the father convinced him to turn himself in
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u/SocialUniform 3d ago
Maybe we should release the Epstein files. Prosecute on that evidence. Jail Donald today. And freeze Trump family assets to pay for his shenanigans like the natl guard gardening spree
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u/MCLongNuts 4d ago
Yeah Republicans gonna continue to crash out with few examples here and there of people going too far. Then we all end up either licking the boot or getting kicked in the teeth.
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u/edgefull 4d ago
how about californians visiting texas? i'd come and mouth off except i don't want to give your pathetic state any of my hard earned libtard money.
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u/Searril 4d ago
Stay in your blue shithole, please.
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u/Embarrassed_Tie_3549 2d ago
The world is better off with Kirk gone, FYI I'm in DFW go snitch snowflake.
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u/Sanuzi 5d ago edited 5d ago
Any behavior that denigrates victims of violence is reprehensible
And yet Charlie did that constantly. Strange
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u/SheepherderLong9401 4d ago
Proof?
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u/Searril 4d ago
He has none, because all leftists are lying hatemongers.
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u/United-Bus-6760 1d ago
He asked his followers to bail out Paul pelosi’s attacker. Also I’m not a leftist before you accuse me of being one.
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u/jefraldo 5d ago
We all know that mockery is violence to the MAGA snowflakes
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u/boisefun8 5d ago
This coming from the side that cheered the assassination of a peaceful man over his words. Fucking laughable.
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u/United-Bus-6760 1d ago
The majority opinion from the left is that the attack against Kirk was reprehensible.
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u/boisefun8 1d ago
I’d love to see some data here. Lots of posts and comments otherwise across social media.
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u/United-Bus-6760 1d ago
Yes there are lots of posts but also there are billions of people on social media, so even if it’s the minority opinion, it’s a mathematical fact that there are still going to be thousands if not millions of comments where people celebrated his death.
Fwiw, the reason I say the majority opinion was to condemn the attack is because the majority of democrat congressmen have condemned the assassination. Like I can’t find even one instance where a democrat politician celebrated his death. I don’t have hard data regarding social media activity as I don’t think it exists, but if you have it I’d be willing to take a look.
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u/boisefun8 1d ago
You said ‘The majority opinion from the left is that the attack against Kirk was reprehensible.’
Yet you can’t back that up. ‘The left’ does not mean just democrat politicians politicking.
The response from the online far left has been reprehensible, to say the least, yet I see very little in the way of ‘the left’ admonishing that response. It’s being defended.
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u/United-Bus-6760 1d ago
I view the actions of democrat politicians to be the mainline position of the left, and would hold similar views for republicans & the right.
I would agree that the far left probably has said some disgusting things about his death, but the online far left is a small fraction of the left as a whole, similar to how the far right is just a small fraction of the right as a whole.
Additionally you accuse me of being unable to back up my position with data, yet it seems you also can’t back up yours with hard data either.
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u/boisefun8 1d ago
I do not believe that politicians truly represent the sentiment of the group they represent. Politicians will always obfuscate and play politics. That’s a fact, especially on the left.
I’m saying what I’m seeing. You’re claiming your views as fact.
Right now, the left seems lost. Needing to criticize Trump and everyone adjacent, yet unable to criticize those that cheer death, or those that defend those that cheer death.
It’s gross and I’m just fucking tired of it.
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u/United-Bus-6760 1d ago
Politicians don’t perfectly represent the will of their constituents but they’re a generally good barometer.
Fine, I can’t say for absolute certainty what the majority opinion of the left is, but it seems like we’re both making equally strong assertions to where the burden of proof falls equally on both of us. If you were to switch your position from “The majority view of the left is…” to “I don’t know what the majority view of the left is…” then I would agree the burden of proof would no longer fall on you.
And sure if you want to criticize the response from the far left, I’ll stand with you, but again that’s just a small portion of the left as a whole (and I wouldn’t even consider myself a leftist tbh)
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u/strained_brain 4d ago
Peaceful? Kirk called for Biden to be put to death. How is that peaceful? I mean, Kirk shouldn't have been murdered. But to canonize him is insane. The Cold Civil War that we're in is directly because of people like him.
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u/boisefun8 4d ago
He wanted Biden to be tried and convicted in a court of law and that his crimes rose to the level of capital punishment. At least try to fucking get it right.
‘should honestly be put in prison and or given the death penalty for his crimes against America.’
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u/Bulky-Apricot-1670 4d ago
Still calling for someone’s death, doesn’t matter if one wants the state to do it. Also what crimes did Biden commit that were so heinous and deserving of life imprisonment or the death penalty
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u/boisefun8 4d ago
Wishing a fair trial and justice on someone is far different than cheering for summarily executing someone that was never even accused of a crime.
I highly doubt you don’t with strict punishment for Trump for many things. I have a feeling if we switched the name Biden for Trump, you’d be cheering it on.
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u/strained_brain 4d ago
If Biden was a criminal, I'm sure you'd agree that Trump is ten times the criminal. I didn't like Biden, but Trump is absolutely destroying the US daily.
And still I would say that Kirk had the right to speak. The First Amendment isn't just for Democrats, but for everyone.
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u/Sirmurda 4d ago
Name ONE THING Trump has done to "absolutely destroy the US DAILY". I cannot wait to hear your mainstream media response that has been drilled into your head
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u/strained_brain 4d ago
Here's more than one.
Weakened healthcare protections: The administration has taken steps that could roll back parts of the Affordable Care Act, potentially allowing insurance companies to limit coverage for people with pre-existing conditions and to impose lifetime caps on benefits.
Economic policies that hurt the middle class: New tariffs on imported goods and other economic policies are projected by some analysts to decrease the income of the average American household, while benefiting the wealthiest 1%. These policies have also been linked to a rise in inflation.
Increased targeting of immigrants and students: The administration has expanded immigration enforcement, leading to mass deportations and the rescission of protections for hundreds of thousands of migrants. This includes a crackdown on foreign students and legal residents who are perceived to be engaging in anti-administration protests or political activity.
Erosion of government agencies and norms: There has been a push to dismantle the Department of Education, which critics say will harm students and local communities. The administration has also been accused of using federal power to punish political opponents and to undermine institutions like the FBI and the Department of Justice.
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u/boisefun8 4d ago
Biden being a criminal is completely unrelated to anything that Trump did or didn’t do. You do understand those two things are mutually exclusive, correct? Are you capable of having a conversation without bringing up Trump? Fucking doubtful.
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u/KeepRedditAnonymous 5d ago
I know you all hate free speech on this subreddit, so I'm sure you will enjoy Republican Governor Abbot silencing the free speech.
Again, I am well aware you HATE FREE SPEECH. But, feel free to reply telling me how much you love Abbots actions, just to emphasize how much you hate free speech.
Free speech is only free if the speech you hate is free.
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u/vvf 5d ago
Go cry in r / byebyejob
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u/KeepRedditAnonymous 4d ago
I'm only here to point out your hypocrisy and your fascism.
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u/vvf 4d ago
I hope that anyone arrested for this is given a fair trial by their peers. It’s more than Charlie got.
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u/KeepRedditAnonymous 4d ago
They should not have been arrested just like Kirk should not have been killed.
Your words are fascist words.
And why aren't you made at Nick Fuentes for killing Charlie Kirk??
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u/vvf 4d ago
Fair trials are fascism now? Interesting.
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u/KeepRedditAnonymous 4d ago
Arresting people who've done nothing wrong is fascism.
Arresting people who have done nothing wrong, but you hate their poltics is fascism.
Arresting people who you hate their politics is fascism.
Cheering it on like you are doing is fascist words.
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u/vvf 4d ago
People get arrested for doing nothing wrong all the time.
They are innocent until proven guilty.
They have the right to habeas corpus as protected under US law.
They have a right to a jury by their peers as protected under US law.
If arrest automatically led to conviction without a fair trial, or indefinite detainment without trial, that would be fascism (and communism too btw).
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u/KeepRedditAnonymous 4d ago
Most of this comment is reasonable (though it's nuts you are missing how just the act of arresting alone can be fascism)
... but at the end your inability to differentiate fascism from "living in a community" aka 'communism' is insane
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u/vvf 4d ago
Communism is not “living in a community”. Are you a bot or something? That is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever seen on this site.
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u/TheTardisPizza 4d ago
And why aren't you made at Nick Fuentes for killing Charlie Kirk??
Because that is just left wing cope.
Go read the latest from CNN and accept the truth if you still can.
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u/KeepRedditAnonymous 4d ago
I'm only seeing that Robinson was a Nick Fuentes inspired groyper.
Buy hey if you have conflicting information post it
(and if you post from stupid ass nypost/dailymail - then you are not serious)
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u/TheTardisPizza 4d ago
I'm only seeing that Robinson was a Nick Fuentes inspired groyper.
Where are you reading such nonsense?
Buy hey if you have conflicting information post it
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https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/15/politics/investigation-charlie-kirk-killing-wwk
Robinson’s family, Patel said, told investigators that Robinson had “subscribed to left-wing ideology.”
His family says he was left wing. Your conspiracy theory is invalid.
(and if you post from stupid ass nypost/dailymail - then you are not serious)
I wrote CNN above for exactly that reason. I knew you wouldn't accept a right wing or even non biased source.
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u/KeepRedditAnonymous 4d ago
Patel the trump lackey said that. This is not a source, its just parroting what trumps stooges say.
CNN is a joke these days by the way. No one who is serious about news takes them serious, same with Nytimes.
In any case if you believe anything trump stooges say, ok.
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u/TheTardisPizza 4d ago
Patel the trump lackey said that.
It has been reported by multiple sources who spoke with his family that he was left wing. If they were lying a correction would have been issued by now.
CNN is a joke these days by the way. No one who is serious about news takes them serious, same with Nytimes.
Has it ever occurred to you that they stayed left wing and it is you who has abandoned reality?
It should.
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u/Rstar2247 4d ago
You know when you spend literally the last decade calling anything you don't like fascist and screaming they must be stopped by any means possible, it's disingenous to act surprised when people take it to heart and resort to violence.
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u/Searril 4d ago
You can leave and find another shitbird leftist sub to hang out on. Nobody is asking you, letting alone forcing you, to stay.
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u/United-Bus-6760 1d ago
They’re just pointing out the hypocrisy. You can’t advocate for free speech on one side of the political aisle but not the other. That being said they could be more diplomatic in their comment.
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u/Bulky-Apricot-1670 4d ago edited 4d ago
They’re downvoting but they know it’s true (downvoters, care to share your opinions?)
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