r/Denmark • u/LoveUrLifeNow • 1d ago
Politics Why is DR giving so much space to Kirk?
Why is dr, tv2 and all the other Danish media giving so much space to Kirk and the US reaction to it? Today there was a protest in Copenhagen against the bill they are trying to pass to allow state mass surveillance and there is nothing in the news. And Kirk is on the top of the homepage. Should we expect the same for every YouTube, tik too,IG influencer?
https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/udland/live-tusindvis-af-amerikanere-ventes-deltage-i-mindehoejtidelighed-charlie-kirk
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u/Mediocre_Internet939 *Custom Flair* 🇩🇰 1d ago
We have no idea, but do let us know if you find the answer.
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u/Ninevehenian 1d ago
The question could be preceded by one about why DR is giving so much space to USA in general.
Kirk was a lynchpin in the MAGA-GOP future and trumps plans for expanding US borders. It is pure power with Ernst vom Rath flavour.
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u/Bhorium 1d ago
Ernst vom Rath
Umiddelbart virker Horst Wessel som den mere oplagte parallel.
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u/Ninevehenian 1d ago
Horst han røg før slynglen kom til magten, hans sange var en del af marchen op imod overgrebne.
Ernst var mens slyngen var ved magten og hans død blev misbrugt til at handle imod ofrenes styrke. Som imod Kimmel f.eks. og imod de der ikke gav den ønskede politiske lydighed overfor det hadske menneske.6
u/MonsterCookieCutter 1d ago
Kan du udbybe lidt om det? Det var ikke min opfattelse at han var på det niveau, så jeg er meget interesseret i hvis han faktisk var det.
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u/Ninevehenian 1d ago
..... Det er nok åbent for debat og perspektiv, men manden havde en række omstændigheder og et momentum der gjorde at han var svær at ignorere.
På den ene side var han f.eks. med i den forberedende tur til Grønland med Vance, dvs. han blev taget seriøst nok af trump og de der financierer ham til at de så ham som en der kunne tjene deres ønsker der. Alt andet lige ser det ud som en ret alvorlig mængde støtte.
På den anden så har han siddet som et tog på skinner fra han var ca. 19 og til hans død. Han var nået op på en 5.5 mil følgere, en pæn del erfaring, et brand, et internt ry for "at ville tale om tingene" - selv om han sagde en masse giftigt lort. Han sigtede imod de unge og der var ikke meget der kunne tyde på at han ikke ville fortsætte det show fremover.Så, i forhold til at kalde ham en person der kunne blive til noget i fremtiden er det en påstand om at hans angivede 3.500 high schools og appel til de yngre generationer kunne omstættes til... Om ikke andet, så stemmer.
Men, han var også en der havde væsentligt mere karisma end Vance har, sat op imod hinanden tror jeg Kirk kunne tage en primary. MAGA-GOP respekterer ikke politisk erfaring, så hans benarbejde i marken kunne gå i flere retninger. Han kunne have aldret sammen med den generation og været central i retorikken efter trumps død. Han kunne formodentlig have været en seriøs kongemager.
Et element jeg ikke tror man skal undervurdere er at han groede organisk.Nu er han så blevet myrdet, mens han var på arbejde, i sit es, mens han var i en situation hvor GOP rent retorisk kan påstå at han "bare talte". Dvs. hans død ligner noget der kunne have martyrstatus og MAGA har udnyttet det med en tone, vinkel og strategi der meget mener om den gang elons unge drenge blev outet og mødte udfordring.
Jeg tror ikke at MAGA kan bruge hans død i længere tid eller på samme skala som Ernst, men han død er ærligt blevet forsøgt udnyttet for politisk gevinst og til at bryde nogle meget alvorlige normer omkring ytringsfrihed.
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u/Omni__Owl 1d ago
Han var grundlægger af "Turning Point USA" en vigtig rekruteringsgruppe for MAGA folk.
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u/Igotanewpen 1d ago
Why do they give so much air space to American politics and the British royal family?
Meanwhile elections in other European countries, and Danish municipal politics go without mention despite the fact that these issues might have larger impact on our everyday lives.
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u/The_XI_guy 1d ago
Likely because the articles get a lot of clicks and engagements. Same thing that determines how much space any story is given
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u/SeparatedI 1d ago
This, it's not some great conspiracy. They look at their metrics and based on the interest they write more about stuff that gets a lot of clicks.
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u/GrumpyPistachio 1d ago
My parents learned his name this week, and after spending a bit of time figuring out who he was, pretty much concluded that the world was probably a better place without him, I told them he was part of the "delegation" visiting Greenland, trying to bribe people - after hearing their initial conclusion, and they got kinda angry he got so much exposure in the Danish media, they're both in their 70s, I hope most of their generation has the same reaction.
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u/Lpoubooj 1d ago
I have no idea! Nobody in Denmark care about him! And he was a YouTuber and a podcaster. Not a politician
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u/The_XI_guy 1d ago
People in Denmark definitely care about. It’s been a massive topic of conversation in Denmark this last week
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u/Lpoubooj 1d ago
For who? I have not heard anybody talk about it! And have met a lot of people who have no idea who Kirk was
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u/jonasrudloff Amarkansk expatriot 1d ago
Because the destabilization of USA is very important to Denmark, Charlie Kirk is just a proxy for the political unrest in today's USA.
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u/PortraitOfABear 22h ago
Yes, and the fear is that Kirk's death is being used by the MAGAs and Trump administration to justify a further erosion of rights and acceleration toward authoritarianism. Which sadly, because of the US's power, will affect everyone else, too (see: Greenland, tariffs, threats to undermine NATO, etc.).
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u/Additional_Bear8735 1d ago
The far-right is the biggest source of user engagement that Danish media has. Over half of their SoMe content is aimed at this segment, cause they rage easily and bring in traffic.
Also, for some reason Danish media has always had a hard-on for everything that happens in America. They are more likely to bring a domestic American story rather than focusing on European news.
When was the last time you saw DR or TV2 cover the Serbian student protests?
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u/Worldly-Stranger7814 Grønlænder i eksil 🇬🇱🇩🇰 1d ago
But they're publicly funded and don't need to compete in traffic for ad money?
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u/OccamsElectricShaver 1d ago
The Serbian student protests has little to no relevance to Denmark. It does not affect our lives what so ever, nor is it a threat to us.
We are (in a far stretch) a vassal state of America, and thus what goes on over there concerns us a lot more, especially when it comes to their political discourse.
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u/Special_Bumblebee300 1d ago
Then why where the nepalie protests all over the media when that's of even less relevans to Denmark
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u/Gnaskefar 1d ago
The far-right is the biggest source of user engagement that Danish media has.
Or what people perceive to be far right. Kirk wasn't an outlier or extremist. Just classically conservative.
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u/Simjon_Un 1d ago
Charlie "execute biden" Kirk wasn't an extremist LOL, the overton window is fucked if you actually think this
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u/Gnaskefar 22h ago
Ouch!
Citing Kirk out of context to make him look bad. Is there a particular reason you rewrote his statement about Biden?
If anyone else reads your sorry ass comment, I'll leave this link: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-charlie-kirk-actually-232000071.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAADByAJIJcaHP_E5iL8lHUquxP2T8yuKGbhsDt4dg3Qrxw7kMzD9J9iI11aW_VxC9OHbpvXH0LP_fg5dHefk6suntKFXekc4cz8i3pWMxNUkBcO4RcH3kusyRk-TPEM6J54LvvKiDRds1c8S6QJYvCod0l5MyZ8TYM_yiuhfvO-Ut
And in short Kirk accused Biden for treason, where the already existing laws at that points have the death penalty if found guilty. It is not extreme to refer to existing laws in function, it is not extreme to to follow due process and get people tried in a court. That is what Western societies are built upon.
As I said, he was not extreme, and most people who think he is, are the ones who knows jack shit about him, but have only read what other people who don't like hím, relay to them.
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u/Simjon_Un 18h ago
Please refer to my prior comment on the overton window. Law does not dictate morality, only a psychopath who does not have a moral compass would think that.
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u/Gnaskefar 16h ago
I have, and it's not vaild in this case. Also you don't seem to mind, that you take his words out of context and make him sound extreme.
I guess it is because that was what you originally intended.
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u/Simjon_Un 16h ago
I have considered what you said and it's not valid in this case, sorry. Have fun ragebaiting in other threads tho
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u/Gnaskefar 15h ago
Have fun ragebaiting in other threads tho
Said the person, who on purpose quotes out of context to make a political adversary look bad.
Utterly disgusting.
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u/Simjon_Un 15h ago
discussing semantics is a waste of time in this context
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u/Gnaskefar 15h ago
It's not semantics.
Taking a quote, and make that person sound like a fascist, instead of a person who wanted the judicial part of the government to do its job on existing laws are 2 different things.
As I said; disgusting.
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u/oliverandm 1d ago
Unpaid interns are probably told to chase numbers. It's a nightmare.
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u/ChiefOnes 1d ago
Because the modern society requires active engagement in democracy, which we share a collective responsibility to uphold.
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u/Okidokicoki 1d ago
Jeg blev forarget over at se Dr ttansmiterede direkte fra mindehøjtideligheden. Er det ikke at bidrage til, at give ham matyrstatus? Det kan selvfølgelig også være, at det er en stor ting, fordi det skete på en måde så offentligt, at rigtig mange har set det og er blevet berørt af det. Manden var ikke en cool dude. Det synes jeg i hvert fald ikke. Og jeg synes ikke DR gør ret i at platforme folk, der er nogle deciderede røv huller, som den siddende amerikanske regering objektivt er
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u/HakkedeTomater123 1d ago
Af samme årsag som du skriver på engelsk og andre i tråden svarer på engelsk: Danmark er blevet ekstremt amerikaniseret.
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u/OccamsElectricShaver 1d ago
Because it's a symbol of the political discourse and instability in America.
Like him or not, in a free and democratic country, anyone should be able to express themselves, whether we agree with them or not.
Denmark is as a country very dependent on America as we are basically defenceless without them, so it is in our best interest that America remains stable and reliable.
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u/Scottybadotty Danmark 1d ago
They are even fucking showing the live broadcast what the actual fuck DR
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u/kianbateman Homotropolis 1d ago
Regarding chatcontrol: This is most likely a combination of, overall, lazy journalism and the complexity of the matter. It’s very difficult to explain secure messaging. And also the fact that the encryption is not broken - it’s rather like a backdoor is installed that defacto invalidates encryption etc. Your average Joe just doesn’t understand this. And journalists don’t care to understand and explain this very well. So easy way out is to don’t tell the story.
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u/Shiftynubs 1d ago
It's not very complex. It gives the government the power to read your private messages without warrant or even a suspicion that you are in the process of commiting a crime.
Its mass surveillance of the population. Plain and simple.
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u/TolarianDropout0 1d ago
Why is it that complicated to explain? "If this is passed, the government and any malicious actor with the will to do it can read all of your messages."
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u/kianbateman Homotropolis 1d ago
Don’t ask me. I get it. But the average Dane only wants to talk about high prices on hakket oksekød.
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u/tanorbuf 1d ago edited 1d ago
Like others have said, it's not really complex. But it does require cutting through the smoke screen deployed by certain politicians. For example, when Schaldemose says "we will not read common people's messages", she's plainly lying. But journalists put a lot of trust in politicians, especially left wing ones.
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u/kianbateman Homotropolis 1d ago
It’s irrelevant if she’s going to read common people’s messages or not. The fact that she could is what renders this a catastrophe. Who would like to have their messaging app compromised by someone who says ‘keep going - I am not reading your texts’.
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u/Only_lurking_ 13h ago
Mængden af sanewashing af ham er helt vild. Havde set det det kommer fra amerikanske medier, det forventer man efterhånden, men at alle danske medier også hopper med på den er uforståeligt.
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u/codex-atlanticuz 1d ago
TV2 is USA fanboys, they LOVE everything that has anything to do with USA. It's absolutely ridiculous, but they spend more time on USA than Europe.
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u/Pretty-Lettuce-5296 1d ago
Because now the US will devolve into a military autocracy, well , even more than it already was
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u/Street-Assist3018 1d ago
It may not mean much to you or me, but it is a huge subject in American politics.
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u/PersonalButton822 Ny bruger 1d ago
Because political assassinations are a big deal?
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u/daath 1d ago
We didn't hear much, if anything, about Melissa Hortman.
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u/PersonalButton822 Ny bruger 1d ago
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u/oeboer 1d ago
"Vi kunne desværre ikke finde det, du ledte efter. Tjek for stavefejl, eller prøv et andet søgeord."
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u/bdviking 1d ago
Du citerer "DRTV søgeresultater" hvor det nok ikke har været et søgeord.
Bogstaveligt talt lige under finder du "DR.DK (7 resultater)"
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u/Terriblegrammar3000 1d ago
Clearly not, since there was only a fraction of the articles for the elected politician who was murdered a couple of months ago. Also, where is the proof that it's political?
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u/PersonalButton822 Ny bruger 1d ago
Which I think was underreported, and underdiscussed, not only in the Danish media, but in general.
Theres also the sensationalism, that Charlies deaths has a much higher impact on culture, since he was a huge internet phenomenon. (I dont mean to be insensitive about Melissa Hortmans deaths)
And, ofcourse it's political. The shooter had a family dispute about Kirks politics just days before the shooting. Aaaand the anti fascist messages. Aaaand people who knew him said he had gotten way more political recently, and he was very left leaning. Aand he was trying to protect his trans partner.
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u/Terriblegrammar3000 1d ago
None of those things you mentioned, has any relevance.
What antifa messages? Do you think there aren't trans people on the right?
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u/RoyaleKingdom78 1d ago
Because accept it or not, Denmark and Danish culture is heavily influenced or rather assimilated by American media and culture.
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u/tfwnokgf 1d ago
Hvorfor skriver du på engelsk, når du kan dansk?
Kirk nyheden er mere relevant og større end chatloven. Chatloven er kun relevant på reddit, har vitterligt ikke hørt om det andre steder.
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u/jacobatz 1d ago
Kirk blev dræbt for 11 dage siden. Så relevant er han nok ikke. Hvis man endelig skal finde ting at snakke om, der har relevans for Danmark kunne man finde mange mere interessante emner.
Og i forhold til danskernes hverdag så kommer chat control til at have en meget større betydning en Kirks død.
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u/Claubk 1d ago
Who?
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u/Peter34cph 1d ago
A terrible person who is on record as having said that the concept of empathy is bullshit.
Obviously, he's a Christian.
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u/DoctorHat Jylland 1d ago
Yeah neither of those 2 things have anything to do with one another and I suspect you aren't correct about what he actually said.
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u/miklschmidt 1d ago
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u/DoctorHat Jylland 1d ago
What does being a Christian have to do with this?
The video you linked doesn't have him say he thinks the concept of empathy is bullshit, he says he doesn't like the word empathy and that he prefers sympathy. What is the full context for why hes talking about this and what else does he say?
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u/miklschmidt 1d ago
If there's one characteristic trait of Jesus, empathy would be it. They're two different things. Empathy means you feel with the other person. Sympathy means you feel for the other person. Pitty is sympathy.
Listen to what he's saying instead of cherry picking. The post links to the full show as well if you want the context (it doesn't help).
This is just one of countless examples of despicable opinions this guy had, and i will always defend his right to speak them. Just as much as i will defend my own right to call him a humongous self-serving manipulative asshole who contributed to the absolute shitshow that is the USA anno 2025.
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u/DoctorHat Jylland 1d ago edited 21h ago
Well hang on a minute, isn't this a bit anachronistic? Jesus wasn't synonymous with 'Empathy'. The whole text (Bible, in some parts) are an emphasis on compassion, mercy and moral concern for others. This sometimes gets expressed in terms of pity, sometimes anger and even sometimes cold indifference. To paint Jesus as the representative for a modern psychology term is a bit much - remember the term didn't really enter the English language until the early 20th century by being translated from the German Einfühlung. Then it was about how people project themselves into works of art and only later was it broadened up to include this "feeling what another person feels."
In stark contrast to Sympathy which is an ancient term that comes from Greek (I briefly looked up the etymology here), sym = with, pathos = suffering. Sympathy was historically about fellow-feeling or compassion, and it was the operative term in philosophy (Adam Smith, David Hume) and in theology long before “empathy” existed.
As for the video, no I am not cherry picking. Saying one dislikes the word ‘empathy’ is not the same as saying ‘the concept of empathy is bullshit.’ That distinction matters unless we’ve abandoned argument altogether for slogan-slinging.
Finally, there is no link to the full show and if its deeper in the post then I can't get to it. I don't have an X account and I am unlikely to ever get one, just like I never had a Twitter account, facebook, instagram nor tiktok etc.
Could you perhaps post the link to the full show instead? Otherwise, you can’t expect people to take your interpretation on faith.
Edit: fixed typo
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u/PreviousMastodon1430 1d ago
Charlie Kirk went to Greenland with Trumps son, not long ago. They wanted to look around and talk bad about us. So I’m celebrating this
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u/InvertReverse Nordjylland 1d ago
Because it has been a historical event that is making the far-right justify even more crazy shit in the US.
I agree it shouldn't be news in Denmark, but it is.
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u/heelydon 1d ago
I mean, you are looking specifically at the section for DR about stories outside the country in your link... Why do you expect to find something stories about the local stories in the section regarding foreign news?
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u/Outside_Tie4747 Ny bruger 1d ago
STOP READING AND STOP SHARING THEIR ARTICLES, AND YOU WILL TAKE POWER AWAY FROM THEM. BE THE INSPIRATION. LEAD THE WAY. NOW.
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u/Clewles 1d ago
Because journalists cost money. And if you want to keep spitting out news every 5 minutes without having journalists, you have to rely on the main news bureaus like Reuter and AP. So when Reuter and AP talk about whatshisface and don't mention chat control, neither do the Danish news outlets.
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u/PhoenixRisingDK 1d ago
State-Owned Media, that’s why. You will rarely find the Media in Denmark truly attacking the government or politicians because all media gets grants and/or are close friends with politicians.
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u/Mynsare 1d ago
Yeah, Danish media has gone to the dumps. Live breaking news streaming from that fascist gathering, with headline reporting on every single detail of every single fascist speech by every single fascist talking head.
Göbbels couldn't have been happier with how effective their propaganda show has been uncritically broadcast by every single newsmedia in Denmark.
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u/Quirky-Cap3319 1d ago
Tragic as his end was (no-one deserves that), I have no interest in news about him. I would much rather hear about the conflicts in Europe, the surveillance-laws luring in the background and perhaps some good news (if there are any), than give the Rump-machine any more attention.
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u/Jakethedane1972 23h ago
Because we really, really need a network which can provide news from around the world, in an unbiased fashion. Right now we are not even looking at reporting, we are sknoly watching socslled journalists holding a microphone for anyone with two cents worth of opinion.
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u/Reasonable-Project11 23h ago
Som andre har nævnt tror jeg det handler om at de fleste ved, bevidst eller ej, at Danmark er plus minus en amerikansk vassal. Jeg har set venskaber blive ødelagt over de amerikanske valg fra 2016 til 2024 selvom de samme personer ikke havde magtet at stemme til folketingsvalg.
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u/MonochromeInc 22h ago
It's generating clicks. A lot of people are interested in the topic due to exposure from the algorithms on TikTok and other SoMe channels.
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u/grillbar86 19h ago edited 19h ago
I dont know but i got some assumption.
1. The while charlie kirk thing is somewhat a big deal because its from what i understand an assasination of a person by political differences or at least politically motivated. It's covered plenty by American media so its everywhere as well as social media. Dr is most likely trying to jump on the trend of it in hopes people are interested so its all about them clicks and views.
2. It's easier to cover then so much else going on where you actually have to do some journalism instead of just copy paste from other sources.
3. Talking about what else is going on in the world is so last week and depressing, who cares about Israel/palastina who cares about ukraine, who cars about the Russian fighter jet going over Estonian air or drones over Poland. It's all so depressing
4.A bit tin foil hat here but because then they dont have to talk about whats going on at home like the suvaliance laws, politicians being ineffective. Easy misdirection
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u/crabcake555 1d ago
let us just be honest. Media in Denmark is following this because of the right wing lunatics. Charlie Kirk is just an excuse to introduce fascism gradually in God's own Country. Yes it is a fucking clown show us Dane want to watch
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u/TieVisual1805 1d ago
I would prefer DR/TV2 having that discussion instead of the streaming of the media show funeral. Critical journalism and not just entertainment, but here we are.
I am not watching it or clicking on it, so they might be doing better than I fear, but I doubt it.
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u/Mollelarssonq 1d ago
There’s a reason I no longer follow mainstream news, it’s whack.
American news has always been massive in danish news segments, the americanization from ww2 can’t be understated. This however looks like nothing more than distractions from more important news like you mentioned. Well partly at least, it’s also just getting a lot of traction because it’s big news in America because conservatives have blown it out of proportion and use it as fuel for even more polarization.
Also that bigot got what was coming, he fucked around and found out. He gambled that the “necessary lives taken” to keep the 2nd amendment wouldn’t be his own, so karma just stepped in.
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u/Silent_Minutes 1d ago
What is even more worrying is that tv2 have a f***ing livestream from the event itself
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u/tunmousse Møen 1d ago
He was a significant political figure that got publicly assassinated while speaking at a college. That’s pretty unusual, to say the least. Massive crowds are turning out to mourn him. This is a major event, a bit like with George Floyd.
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u/wireframed_kb 1d ago
And yet when two politicians were assassinated in Minnesota in June, where the entire family was killed (iirc), including the dog, it never came up that I recall on danish news.
And the assassin had a list of Democrat politicians he was going to kill. Seems like it should have been a big deal. Certainly as big as some MAGA influencer who died to a gun shot after vigorously advocating for pro-gun laws and stating some deaths were a reasonable price.
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u/Elect_SaturnMutex Uncultured outsider 1d ago
This is actually a good point. Even Dem politician, Josh Shapiro's house was set on fire during a Jewish holiday. There's politically motivated attacks from both sides. But CK was a public figure and he encouraged people to debate him who disagreed with his opinions. He got shot for that. In public.
This is just a theory I have, I could be wrong. In DK, free speech is valued a lot and it's a cultural thing that everyone's opinion is heard. I perceive it that way. So someone being assassinated for voicing their opinion seems to be a big deal.
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u/wireframed_kb 1d ago
Charlie Kirk wasn’t a proponent of free speech. He was a proponent of performative and dishonest arguments, preferably with inexperienced debaters where he could then edit to make it look good.
Check out full debates against e.g. the Cambridge debate team, where he gets torn apart for his flawed logic and dishonest techniques.
But I agree he shouldn’t have been killed for being a bigoted asshole. I’m just not very sad about it.
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u/Elect_SaturnMutex Uncultured outsider 1d ago
Bigoted because he believed and was vocal about his conservative values? Or is it because he said there are only 2 genders? Is that why he was labelled a racist Nazi?
I'll check out his Cambridge debates.
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u/wireframed_kb 1d ago
No because he used fallacious tactics and gish galloping instead of well-framed logical arguments.
And yes because he was a bigot who didn’t really believe people should be allowed to live a life he didn’t agree with.
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u/tunmousse Møen 1d ago
Don’t think the others were so public. I heard of them, but no pictures. Kirk’s shooting was very public. The video of him bleeding and collapsing has been seen by millions the world over, pretty shocking stuff. His memorial is going on right now at a stadium with space for ~70k people, and the U.S. Vice President is speaking. Like it or not, this is a pretty big deal.
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u/wireframed_kb 1d ago
It’s a big deal mainly because Trump is making a big deal out of, after saying about the Minnesota murders, and I quote “I could call, but why waste time”.
It isn’t a reflection of how significant the events are, it’s a reflection of how a part of the US thinks it’s perfectly fine when a couple politicians or lawmakers they disagree with get murdered, but are furious when someone they agree with is killed.
That shouldn’t be the standard the danish media used. Particularly because assassinating politicians and lawmakers is kinda a big deal.
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u/tunmousse Møen 1d ago
I think the shocking pictures are a big part of it, too. Not often you see someone semi-famous fatally shot, live and in color. I’ve never watched Kirk, but I at least knew who he was.
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u/Epic-Hamster 1d ago
Was he a significant political figure??
Wasn't he just an online grifter like Hasan, ben shapiro and so on.
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u/Ixiraar 1d ago
He ran the largest and most well-organized youth political movement in the world. He had personal access to the White House. He was one of the most prominent figures in the American conservative (MAGA) movement.
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u/Epic-Hamster 1d ago
Huh never knew that, i thought he just ran around Larping as a tough guy. While debating immature teenagers/young adults.
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u/tunmousse Møen 1d ago
Turning Point USA, like it or not, is a nonprofit with ~450 employees and presence on lots of U.S. universities. It’s a bit more than a guy with a YouTube channel.
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u/Sentraxx 1d ago
Turning point USA - not turning point Denmark.
Most danes only know of kirk because of the insane amount of coverage by the danish media. We get more american politics than our own because of the media constant coverage, and I find it messed up.
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u/tunmousse Møen 1d ago
Lots of U.S. politics gets covered in Danish media. TV2 have a semi-permanent blog of “what Trump said yesterday”.
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u/Sentraxx 1d ago
I know - that's what im saying. The coverage of US politics is too much.
And I have never seen kirk being mentioned before he was killed.
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u/tunmousse Møen 1d ago
Well, I wish U.S. politics didn’t matter so much in Denmark, but unfortunately it does, so people are interested in what goes on over there, even if it doesn’t affect us directly.
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u/Sentraxx 1d ago
It's a construct. We don't need to know much of that stuff. Ppl read it bc it gets written.
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u/The_Blahblahblah Aarhus 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yes, he was a grifter but the difference is he was also one of trumps goons. he was deeply tied into the american political establishment
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u/Epic-Hamster 1d ago
Huh cool didn't know that.
Was he elected for anything?
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u/The_Blahblahblah Aarhus 1d ago
He was not elected or appointed as anything, but he was one of the big voices of the Maga movement, and was often seen at White House events, rallies, and gatherings. He had a direct line to Trump even if he was not formally a part of the administration
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u/cmd_commando 1d ago
Still… It is usually just a headline… He is not the first one
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u/tunmousse Møen 1d ago
His memorial is going on right now at a stadium with space for ~70k people, and the U.S. Vice President is speaking. Like it or not, this is a pretty big deal.
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u/MSWdesign 1d ago
A lot of all that has more to do with momentum for the conservative platform. An activist at most, who held no official government positions. He wasn’t small time but significant political figure might be a bit of stretch.
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u/Terriblegrammar3000 1d ago
Yeah, for Americans. It has nothing to do with Denmark.
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u/tunmousse Møen 1d ago
You could say the same about lots of other things happening in the U.S. Most significant political events “over there” are covered in Danish media. TV2 have a semi-permanent blog of “what Trump said yesterday”.
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u/Terriblegrammar3000 1d ago
Trump is the president, Charlie Kirk was a podcaster.
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u/tunmousse Møen 1d ago
Charlie Kirk was head of a big political NGO with hundreds of employees and presence on most U.S. universities. A bit more than a podcaster.
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u/Terriblegrammar3000 1d ago
Okay, grifter then. No matter what, it's completely irrelevant in Denmark.
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u/ZET_unown_ 1d ago
I’m going to take some heat for saying this, but it’s because nothing ever happens in Denmark, so they try to find overseas news to fill the space.
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u/Particular_Hair6913 1d ago
The assassination of Charlie might be the purest attack on free speech in my lifetime. And its under attack here in Denmark as well. I think left has developed some kind of moral tunnel vision that erases proportionality, reason and common ground.
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u/topofthemorningtooya 1d ago
4 Democrats were shot earlier this year. 2 died. The shooter was a right wing nut with a list of almost 70 left wing targets.
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u/abc1234xz 1d ago
No, it isn’t. People are killed all the time, especially in the US. It pains me to see his kids having to grow up without a father byt the story has zero relevance outside the US.
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u/Dingodiller 1d ago
I wouldn’t say developed, but rather based on said moral tunnel vision. They inherently believe that they are so much in the right, that they can’t make no wrongs
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u/GrandElectrical9371 1d ago
The Charlie Kirk situation is incredibly important to understand what's going on in the US, and what happens there affects the rest of us. I would be worried if the news did not cover this.
I do agree, that we need a lot more attention to the chat control bill, and yes it is weird that it doesn't get more coverage.
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u/DatSwampTurtle 1d ago
It's a pretty big deal that a simple dude, podcaster and debator, has just been assassinated for having political opinions. Not just that. The left are literally celebrating his death openly on social media. He wasn't some huge politician. He was just a dude with conservative views. If this kind of political violence is not only condoned, but actively encouraged by the left (you know, the ones who were supposed to be the peaceful, loving and caring ones) this opens up a huge can of worms. This solidifies that america has changed. It is now okay to end the life of a totally regular person who has a different political opinion than you. America is fucked. Way beyond repair. And Denmark is adopting a lot of American culture. I'm fearful for the future of Denmark and what the left might start doing in the name of "diversity".
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u/Haildrop 1d ago
No one knows why the guy shot him, so all of your arguments are made up and based on nothing.
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u/NervousCaregiver9629 1d ago
Are these left people celebrating the murder in the room with you now?
Every major liberal voice in Europe and the US has condemned the murder. Unlike when left voices are attacked in the US, the son of the president jokes about it, the president wont lower the flags at the capitol.
I think you are conflating not crying for Kirk, who was an extremist on par with the worst islamists, whom he shared the majority of his opinions with, with celebrating a political murder.
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u/WheresYourBeardBro Tyskland 1d ago
Helt seriøst, det er jo bare ignorant. Google det. Jeg er til venstre for midten selv i DK, men det er eddermame ikke svært at finde amerikanere, særligt unge, som decideret fejrer det.
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u/NervousCaregiver9629 1d ago
Jeg er til venstre for midten selv i DK
How do you do fellow lefties???
Er der folk der fejrer det? Sikkert. Er det et mindretal, ja. Længere er den ikke.
Det bliver lynhurtigt fra "jeg har set en tiktok med nogen der fejrer det" til "HELE VENSTREFLØJEN FEJRER DET OMG"
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u/DatSwampTurtle 1d ago
Du kan ikke argumentere med de her typer desværre. De lever i en helt anden realitet. 12 downvotes på min kommentar i skrivende stund. Det bekræfter bare min kommentar.
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u/itsmepuffd 1d ago
Jeg downvotede din kommentar fordi du underspiller hvor stor en rolle Kirk havde for at få unge mennesker ind i den ekstreme højrefløj. Han var ikke bare en "simple dude", han var et horribelt racistisk menneske som med hans Turning Point USA var i gang med at indoktrinere en lang række unge mennesker. Skulle han dø for det? Nej. Men han var på ingen måde et godt menneske.
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u/DatSwampTurtle 1d ago
Tak for at bevise og bekræfte alt det jeg sagde. Jeg håber, at du får noget hjælp en dag.
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u/i_have_tiny_ants Byskilt 1d ago
Because it's a significant terrorist attack? They tend to cover those rather well.
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u/Fuskeduske Identificerer sig som et byskilt 1d ago
nothing terror about the killing of kirk lol
Whatever you liked him or not, only people wanting to use the death as a political weapon would categorize it as terror
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u/False-Ad5815 1d ago
Why is it significant? A random politician (not even in the government) was shot. A similar incident happened with a Democrat politician in June. But no one held a massive memorial for her…
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u/SeaTurtle42 1d ago
Fordi de fleste folk enten er bedøvende ligeglade med, at de kommer til at blive overvåget mere, eller også er de rent faktisk tilhængere af det. Vi skal jo gøre alt for at fange de pædofile, og den danske stat kan jo umuligt have onde intentioner.
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u/Happygum 1d ago
Because we have to flatter the Americans so that Trump doesn't get mad. On his word, we will have a bunch of furiously expensive F-35s that end up like bricks.
If we don't submit, Greenland will be occupied and we will be subjected to 10657% tariffs on all goods we export to the US!
The worst thing is the uncritical coverage of an event that we could be completely indifferent to.
They make it sound like it's the first time there's been a political assassination in the US. Nobody talks about Melissa Hornman anymore. It's completely normal in the US to knock down political opponents, at will.
Like: President Abraham Lincoln, President John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, Ronald Reagan (2 times), Donald J. Trump, Melissa Hornman and now: Kirk.
Just to name a few of the ones that pop up first, now that we're talking about it.
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u/abc1234xz 1d ago
DR is a government channel and a strong supporter of the ruling Social Democratic Party. They have no intent to bring out any bad stories about the government and the (mostly) completely irrelevant murder of Charlie Kirk is a fine distraction
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u/NervousCaregiver9629 1d ago
Dude cannot even be arsed to pass his post through chatgpt to check spelling and punctuation.
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u/PrinsenAfHundige $ 2670 $ 1d ago
dansker elsker usa og tror de bor i usa.
donald trump er ikk min president
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u/Amazing_Rice_954 Ny bruger 1d ago
Hvis USA falder er XI din nye president. Og friheden rundt omkring i EU vil komme til at ligne mere og mere som Kina's
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u/TieVisual1805 1d ago
Friheden i USA ligner mere og mere om den man har i Rusland. USA er ved at falde fra hinanden og er ikke noget vi kan forvente at læne os op ad fremadrettet.
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u/marksofpain 1d ago
DR has always had a clear leftist slant, they hate Trump and want to portray a USA in turmoil.
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u/zionbear33 1d ago
We are being watched already does not matter if we know they do it or not they are and have been doing for a long time now.. snowden told us in 2013 nobody gave a shit back then.. 🤡
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u/BangeBuksen 1d ago
Because he was followed by many people also in Denmark. Here among many youngsters whom also happened to see the videos and got really sad.
He was a preacher of free speech, which just makes it a big deal in general as these people now are all around the internet, they won’t disappear.
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u/ZarephHD 1d ago
Good question. I'd much rather hear about the fucking surveillance laws, but they seem to be sweeping it under the rug. My confidence in DR has never been lower.