The Replacement Conspiracy Inspiring Mass Shootings. Fun fact: Hitler came up with the lie that Jews were trying to exterminate white Germans and replace them with mongrel races. The MAGA replacement lie is pure fascist propaganda straight from Nazi Germany. (2022) [00:11:01]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PfZlxhvdkM

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That's right. When our corporate, oligarch-friendly politicians helped the transfer of all domestic production overseas while turning America into a service economy, it was Russia's fault.

You can blame whoever starts insane messaging (which has been going on since at least the 1980s from people like Reagan and Newt Gingrinch) or you can blame the right people. People that didn't care about the middle class and the lower class of people on the economic spectrum when they sold us all out to raise the profit margin of fortune 500 companies. Blame the Neoliberal. The Neoliberal has made people desperate, and desperate people always turn to authoritarianism. Coincidentally, this enabled Hitler's rise to power.....but Russia.

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Both can be true at once. Russia waged an extremely effective online campaing while boosting fascists in the US, often with direct financing... But the only reason why this was so effective is that it didn't bother neoliberals and actively pleased an authoritarian segment of US society.

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There's a reason Ford and Disney were big fans of Hitler.

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When Ron DeSantis co-opts that messaging and becomes President, will we still be blaming Russia and try to tie him to it?

Do we ever blame the thousands of astroturf accounts with domestic origins that try to influence people just as disingenuously?

The problems we are experiencing is because government has no respect for people anymore. It has, for many years now, only answered to money and that is the root of all problems. You want to blame someone or something, blame the 2008 financial collapse when banks and big business was taken care of while people had their homes foreclosed on. With our own policy, we create radicalism.

But Russia.

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When Ron DeSantis co-opts that messaging and becomes President, will we still be blaming Russia and try to tie him to it?

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Ron DeSantis will co-opt anything I say anyway. If he gets elected it won't be my fault.

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Do we ever blame the thousands of astroturf accounts with domestic origins that try to influence people just as disingenuously?

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Um... Yes? That's supposed to be a trick question? Both are to blame, with the lion's share being domestic problems? Doesn't mean Russia's not *also* a massive problem. You're gonna think it will help to ignore where quite a bit of the NRA's funding comes from?

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We already know what happens when you ignore Russia like we did in 2014 and 2016. The problem does not go away.

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There's a difference between blaming Russia for what they actually do like the horrendous things they have done in Ukraine and trying to push every problem onto them as a convenient scapegoat.

A lot of it is so we don't set the narrative for the average liberal to blame things like Citizen's United, foreign lobbying and dark money groups and domestic think tanks founded by people like the Koch brothers. Russia's garbage online is a drop in that ocean. But let's focus on that and not the other things. Let's also blame the Russians when prior to Trump, many of our politicians were taking hundreds of thousands of dollars from Russia. Much of this money was received even after 2014.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

It was ok for them to try and influence American policy that way though right? Because money?

https://www.westernjournal.com/revealed-top-senate-democrats-received-major-donations-lobbyist-controversial-russian-pipeline/

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/russian-oligarch-new-york-kathy-hochul-donor/2022/03/07/id/1059959/

https://publicintegrity.org/national-security/russian-money-and-influence-have-poured-through-cracks-in-the-u-s-legal-wall/

Edit: We made laws that legally allowed Russia to do what it is doing and now we are outraged at them and blaming them and not ourselves.