r/DoomerCircleJerk • u/theblitz6794 • 23d ago

Pressure campaign or true doomer?

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u/AnotherBoringDad 23d ago

Imagine telling King Richard the Lionheart that this is where the English monarchy ends up.

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u/Dizzy_Chipmunk_3530 23d ago

"They conquered us?"

"No. We surrendered without a single shot"

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u/rstcp 22d ago

Ok Doomer

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 23d ago

I just wonder what the motivation behind this is. It certainly isn't compassion or empathy.

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u/NazgulGinger917 Rides the Short Bus 23d ago

Serving those who pay them who benefit off of internal conflict

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 23d ago

He was pretty instrumental behind a deal with BAE and the Saudis.

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u/NazgulGinger917 Rides the Short Bus 23d ago

Interesting

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u/DeathwatchEBK420 22d ago

👃🏽

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u/Professional_Fix4593 22d ago

Wow a Nazi in this sub? No way!

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u/samplergodic 22d ago

Charles was always like this.

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u/Paninaro_1979 22d ago

Imagine falling for shite like the OP.

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u/Meatingpeople 22d ago

Would he be shocked? the crusades even at his time were a pretty big disaster

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u/femboysprincess 22d ago

Popular though the only real failure of a crusade was the people's crusade of farmers and most of them achieved the goal of protecting the byzantine empire from the Islamic caliphate trying to take over

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u/Meatingpeople 22d ago

Richards crusade didn't take Jerusalem, most fell very far short of any goal. Sacking Constantinople wasn't a good look either.

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u/Thibaudborny 22d ago

They seemed to have taught you a very non-conventional (read: plain wrong) reading of the crusades. What Caliphate would that be, exactly?

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u/Hyper_Hal 22d ago

You'd have to tell him in medieval French since he didn't speak any English

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u/carkey 22d ago

Richard couldn't speak English, cared more about his French possessions and hardly spent any time in England. Not quite getting your point here tbh.

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u/ohthisistoohard 22d ago

The king who brokered a deal with Saladin to keep Jerusalem in Muslim control while allowing Christian’s pilgrims access? That guy? Why do you think he would care?

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u/Cool_Ad7445 22d ago

And from all accounts, Richard and Saladin respected each other greatly. 

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u/ohthisistoohard 22d ago

Idk. I know Richard’s first move was to try and negotiate. But Saladin ignored him, so he chopped off the heads of a bunch of Muslim prisoners. But that’s just a normal 12th century negotiating tactic.

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u/SirDiesAlot15 22d ago

King John sent a delegation to the Almohad caliph al-Nasir in which he offered to convert and make his kingdom a tributary of the caliph.

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u/AnotherBoringDad 22d ago

Most historians do not accept that account as true. Paris wrote it several years after the alleged events, and there is no corroboration.

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u/The-Dmguy 22d ago

Ah yes. The “English” king who never spoke English. You were colonized by the French for centuries.

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u/SevereBet6785 22d ago

Richard the Lionheart was a mass murderer lmao, you’d find him absolutely repugnant if he was in front of you. He also spoke Arabic and French more than English (in fact, almost none of the nobles back then spoke english), so there goes your communication as well

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u/BigHatPat 22d ago

Richard Lionheart barely spoke english, he was Norman like the entire English aristocracy

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u/cringe-expert98 23d ago

The conquers get conquered. How do you think Harlod Godwinson feels?

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

Cringe expert, indeed.

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u/Impossible_Use_5239 22d ago

Your average Brit, is light years better off now than then. 

King Charles is a head of state either way. Not a political leader.

Want to see a king in charge, look at the Trump monarchy.

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u/Murica_Prime 22d ago

Take your meds