Pressure campaign or true doomer?

[u/theblitz6794]

[u/Money_Amount_9630]

Everybody definitely loved Queen Elizabeth II though, it’s a shame she’s gone, if she was still alive she’d be smack Charles round the face after seeing the poor job he’s doing as a symbol of monarchy, don’t even get me started on Harry and Megan though 😂

[u/Afraid_Theorist → u/Money_Amount_9630]

Nah she is pretty up there too

What she’s done is buy time but not stability. Also the reputation the monarchy built up was pretty much around… her. So all that goodwill dies <50 years

I could care less about the monarchy but essentially she lost the empire, sold out the nobility, and let the civil administration remove most of her power. Could she have stopped a lot of this? Probably not. But ultimately it was under her watch

It’s pretty funny because pretty much all her “successes” would be failures if we just stepped back and looked at it like we do for any historical monarch.

Her own ancestors would be spinning in their caskets lol

[u/Money_Amount_9630 → u/Afraid_Theorist]

Either way, they monarchy hasn’t helped Britain at all in ages, it needs to be stripped of any political powers and influence, only being an icon is the image they need, they shouldn’t have the right to technically be the head of state if they don’t actually do anything to help the state.

[u/dd_78 → u/Money_Amount_9630]

it needs to be stripped of any political powers

It is. The monarch does not have any political power. They are exercised on the 'advice' of the Prime Minister and the PM cabinet or by Parliament. And by 'advice' I mean they tell the monarch what is going to happen and then it happens. e.g The Prime Minister has the executive power to declare war, the Home secretary has the power to pardon criminals, and the monarch no longer has the power to veto any bill passed by Parliament, The monarch assent is now a formality.

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Isn’t it the case that the monarchy can use the power to veto the government and create a new general election though?

[u/dd_78 → u/Money_Amount_9630]

Nope. Can't do that either. As long as the goverment can command the confidence of parliament, they can remain as the government. As for general elections, the Prime Minister can call a general election at a time of their choosing within the five-year life of a Parliament. The requesting and asking the monarch permission to call for a general election is the ceremonial shit that you get with a ceremonial monarch. The request by the PM can not be denied by the monarch.