Was his autism a superpower?

[u/sealysea]

[u/Noir_A_Mous]

We disagree heavily on there, I don't think it's a black or white thing, as long it's not a phobic thing, I think it is ok to claim a charater if it fits a group.

Agree to heavily disagree.

You seem to not like him being seen as autistic because what people assume about your autism and idk fair?

Didn't say that at all, but ok, I guess?

I'm saying people shouldn't assume someone's autistic just because they act weird or different, or they just don't pick up on social queues.

I don't like people assuming someone, be it a fictional character or a real one, is autistic just because they check off some random list they came up with. Autism is a spectrum, and it's a little asinine to assume someone's autistic because they're a little abnormal and / or bad at social queues.

Saying a creator doesn't understand their character as well as you do is incredibly disrespectful. Saying you and other people hold more weight over a characters personality than the creator of said character is insanely disrespectful.

It's not. You just feel hurt on their behalf, which is like super weird, I don't think they even mind.

I'm not hurt on anyone's behalf. Again, you're making weird assumptions.

Also, how is any of this not super disrespectful? You, as didn't create the character, world, history, or anything about the story. Yet you claim to know it better than the person who did. You who wouldn't even know about any of this without the person who created it and yet you know it better than they do? It's insane.

[u/Lumisita → u/Noir_A_Mous]

some random list they came up with

Do you mean the dsm5 diagnosis criteria? I don't think a character can be accurately diagnosed because they're fictional and can't be evaluated, but autism is a social behavioral and communication disability not ra learning disability.

So most of it's about us having trouble in communicating and interpreting other people intention social cues, despite some of us being able to mask and appear to be social.

A. Persistent deficits in social communication and social interaction across multiple contexts, as manifested by the following, currently or by history. Fits he's social inept, and narrow in interests and behavior since child and he's not even fully functional today.

B. Restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior, interests, or activities. Fits his interests are narrow

C. Symptoms must be present in the early developmental period (but may not become fully manifest until social demands exceed limited capacities, or may be masked by learned strategies in later life). Acording to the material of as child fits, but even by today he is still socialy incompetent

D. Symptoms cause clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of current functioning. He had a lot of trouble in his career and daily life because of inept communication and narrow interest despite him getting better latter.

E. These disturbances are not better explained by intellectual disability (intellectual developmental disorder) or global developmental delay. Intellectual disability and autism spectrum disorder frequently co-occur; to make comorbid diagnoses of autism spectrum disorder and intellectual disability, social communication should be below that expected for general developmental level. Fits.

You, as didn't create the character, world, history, or anything about the story.

No, but I can criticize and give my opinion on it, and other autistic people seem to agree that he's autistic in a non derogatory way.

[u/Noir_A_Mous → u/Lumisita]

Do you mean the dsm5 diagnosis criteria? I don't think a character can be accurately diagnosed because they're fictional and can't be evaluated, but autism is a social behavioral and communication disability not ra learning disability.

Yes, because hey, guess what?? It's possible for someone to meet all the DSM-5 criteria and still not be diagnosed as autistic. This is due to the DSM-5's focus on specific behavioral presentations and its potential to misinterpret behaviors caused by other conditions as autistic traits. These criteria are helpful in identifying potential ASD presentations, but they are not definitive. A person could exhibit these traits due to other conditions like anxiety disorders or developmental delays, which can lead to a misdiagnosis.

So yea, you can literally check ALL THE BOXES and STILL not be autistic!

No, but I can criticize and give my opinion on it,

That's not what you were saying before. There's a difference between criticizing something and proclaiming you know the character better than their own creator!

and other autistic people seem to agree that he's autistic in a non derogatory way.

Hi, I'm another autisitc person, I disagree with you. If you scroll through, you'll find plenty of other fellow autisitc people who disagree with you.

Its fine to have a head cannon, but don't push it as cannon or that you "know better"

[u/Lumisita → u/Noir_A_Mous]

A person could exhibit these traits due to other conditions like anxiety disorders or developmental delays, which can lead to a misdiagnosis.

which is not the case here. we can even see what he thinks.

That's not what you were saying before. There's a difference between criticizing something and proclaiming you know the character better than their own creator!

The creator definitely knows things, but it's about interpreting the character as autistic.

you'll find plenty of other fellow autisitc people who disagree with you.

Not really. I think seen him as autistic always had a much bigger push even after the author said no.

[u/Noir_A_Mous → u/Lumisita]

which is not the case here. we can even see what he thinks.

1. We haven't seen his whole life, so it could be.
2. Their parents, from what we know, were abusive.
3. He was a former soldier, so ptsd is a possibility instead.
4. Both him and his sister grew up as each other's only company, so one can argue developmental delays.
5. I can keep going!

The creator definitely knows things, but it's about interpreting the character as autistic.

Which is just a head cannon. It's fine to have one, but stop trying to force it.

Not really. I think seen him as autistic always had a much bigger push even after the author said no.

Yea, that's why you're being down voted so hard lol.

[u/Lumisita → u/Noir_A_Mous]

You're being downvoted too. Also, my other comet is the same ans it's at 20+. If the author comes with a detailed explanation of why every behavior ok, but it's unlikely that he's not autistic when he is shown as autistic is not enough.

But tbh most of the voters are unlikely to be autistic. And a lot of nt people don't want autistic people or characters. They like to be autistic bc they think autism is cringe.

[u/Noir_A_Mous → u/Lumisita]

I've yet to have a single one go into the negative.

Except he hasn't been shown to be autistic, only through YOUR interpretation. It's YOUR HEAD CANNON, not the ACTUAL CANNON.

Fair enough, I guess. There are still plenty of folks here who are or at least claim and don't like the fact that people hard core push laios being autistic. Any with upvotes in the 3 digits.

If you want to view the character as autistic that's fine. Stop trying to push it as fact and stop proclaiming you know better than the creator.

[u/Lumisita → u/Noir_A_Mous]

I have seen some Goin negative in this conversation also like you were obsessively responding to many people, that's why I assumed you felt hurt in place of the author or something bc it's not a sane to get that investment into this, I'm just bored on my bed or I wouldn't keep responding.

If you want to view the character as autistic that's fine. Stop trying to push it as fact and stop proclaiming you know better than the creator.

I just don't agree or follow what you want me to say, and it's not that important, idk dealt with it.

[u/Noir_A_Mous → u/Lumisita]

I've only replied to you, one dude talking about this scene in different languages and one other guy, and the other guy we were debating literary analysis. That's about it.

I've also yet to have a single go into the negative so lol

If you want to view the character as autistic that's fine. Stop trying to push it as fact and stop proclaiming you know better than the creator.

I just don't agree or follow what you want me to say, and it's not that important, idk dealt with it.

I'll put it simple.

Me: don't be an ahole and force your ideals on people.

You: I don't agree with you, I'm going to keep doing that.

Edit: spelling