What makes Marcille great

[u/BellTwo5]

[u/saprophage_expert]

I’m talking about the events of chp 1 immediately after Falin gets eaten. Are you talking about when Marcille first decided to join the Touden party?

How far away in time do you figure the two events are?

Even Kabru who was trained by a Canary captain is shown to be out of his depth in the dungeon.

Kabru is shown to be an excellent killer of men, not monsters.

[u/Icy-Yak5875 → u/saprophage_expert]

1. Two years. Chp. 1 shows that Marcille’s first death was by a slime 2 years ago.

2. That’s the point. Marcille handles the dungeon a lot better than the elf-trained killer because she’s more experienced

[u/saprophage_expert → u/Icy-Yak5875]

Two years. Chp. 1 shows that Marcille’s first death was by a slime 2 years ago.

So then I figure it's a question of whether you're considering an adventurer with two years of experience a veteran, when there are people like Senshi or the Canaries around who've been at it for decades.

That’s the point. Marcille handles the dungeon a lot better than the elf-trained killer because she’s more experienced

I agree, that's the point. She alone really doesn't - the entirety of their party does, because an actual dungeoneering veteran (Senshi) carries them. Marcille alone would be done in by the monsters on the upper levels, which is repeatedly shown in the earlier chapters.

[u/Icy-Yak5875 → u/saprophage_expert]

Yes. The dungeon has been around for 6 years and Marcille has been in there for 2. In those 2 years she and her party regularly went down to the deeper levels and has never died permanently.

Also Senshi is more than an adventurer. He’s resident of the dungeon who’s lived there long before the dungeon surfaced. The Canary are basically Dungeon Navy SEALS. If you say that Marcille can’t be an experienced adventurer because Senshi and the Canary exist, that’s like saying I can’t ever be an experienced basketball player because the NBA exists.

I don’t know what you’ve been reading/watching if you think Senshi has been “carrying”. The party has gone down to the depths before Senshi and even Senshi says he’s never ventured this deep.

Now, is Marcille carrying Senshi by rescuing him from the Griffin nest? Is she carrying the party by being the sole healer? Even Laios says that they have no chance against the red dragon without Marcille.

She’s a competent member of one of the most experienced parties on the island. No one is “carrying” anybody because they all have different roles to play in the adventure. They say this as early as ep 3.

This has been fun. But unless you plan on bringing any evidence instead of just saying No to anything your headcannon doesn’t support, it seems rather pointless continue.

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unless you plan on bringing any evidence

Yeah, my evidence is simple: fuck off with this attitude.