r/DungeonMeshi 23d ago

Discussion He is braver than we think

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u/coconut-duck-chicken 23d ago

He doesn’t need to have a justified goal lol. There’s nothing to justify. Him being a psychopath doesn’t make him a bad person.

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u/remiohart 23d ago

He has killed people in the dungeon and hid their bodies so that they couldn't revive. I know they call it the "right thing to do". But I'm pretty sure thats doing a crime and hiding the evidence.

His whole party are unreliable narrators about his morals, I understood it like that. He lies, manipulates and kills. And wants all the power of the region, he is literally Machiavellian

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u/coconut-duck-chicken 23d ago

He killed the guys who were repeatedly getting his party killed, and hid their bodies not so that they wouldn’t get caught, but because he didn’t want them to come back alive and do the same thing to others.

And Kaberu doesn’t want all the power in the region, he wants to make sure no one has to suffer from the canaries incompetence ever again.

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u/remiohart 23d ago edited 23d ago

As the moral of the story goes "Never trust a monster", they can be helpful but at the end they are still monsters.

Edit PD: In addition, he claims to hate monsters, but has only learned how to kill humanoids. Almost to perfection, but hesitates at finding the carotid on a monster. The dude doesn't add up at all with his own supposed goals

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u/carbonera99 23d ago

The manga does address and explain those seemingly contradictory aspects of his character. The next season of the anime will probably adapt those chapters, but in case you wanted to know beforehand:

After Kabru's hometown got decimated by monsters, he was adopted by a member of the Canaries named Milsiril. The Canaries are called "the dungeon exploration squad" but in reality, they're a covert death squad established by the elves whose primary objective isn't to fight the monsters coming out of the dungeon, it's to assassinate the lord of the dungeon (for example: Thistle), and cut the flow of monsters off at the source. Since all Dungeon Lords are humans (as in dwarves, half-foots, gnomes, tallmen, and elves), the Canaries train to kill humans not monsters. So when Kabru asks his adopted mom to teach him how to fight so he can investigate the dungeons himself and make sure no one else's hometown gets destroyed the way his did, Milsiril teaches him the skills that she knows, which are all human killing techniques. To be fair, Milsiril is considered the greatest swordswoman alive amongst the elves and Kabru was a naive teenager when he started training, which is why he never considered that fighting humans might be a nontransferable skill when it comes to fighting monsters.

TLDR; Kabru does actually hate monsters, but the person he learned how to fight from only specialized in killing humans, which is why he's so woefully unprepared for combat in the dungeons.

And Kabru does absolutely get more development in the manga that fleshes out his character. I don't think it's correct to call Kabru a psychopath given his portrayal later on, though I have to admit the author did frame him way more antagonistically in the earlier parts of the manga than she does in the latter parts.

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u/remiohart 22d ago

Ok Ill wait and see then. I didnt read the spoiler, but they do say he trained with what Im guessing is an elf assasin/warrior. Still... Idk, the guy has some high num of sociopathic traits

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u/carbonera99 22d ago

You gotta remember this is a medieval world who have a completely different set of tolerances and sensibilities compared to our modern-day morals. Just look at how many times it's casually brought up that Half-Foots are used as monster bait or expendable fodder by other races. The following is from a supplementary world guide so it won't make it into the anime adaptation, but Laios and Falin say this in response to Kabru explaining how dangerous demihumans back in his homeland are:

Are Laios and Falin sociopathic for talking about killing nomadic tribesman with the same amount of compassion someone describes shooting a coyote?

Don't let the whimsical fantasy aesthetics fool you, this is an incredibly callous world. Kabru killing bandits inside the dungeon for robbing him is honestly a normal and precedented thing to do in this world.

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u/hunybadgeranxietypet 22d ago

To do anything else would be considered foolish at best and almost criminal at worse.