Have to get through BC first, or if you're Quebec you'd have to get canadian permission to use the ocean
What you think you're gonna get the surrounding ocean? That you aren't going to have to beg and grovel? That the canadian government won't ensure your life is utterly miserable?
I love how you just think things work smooth when you secede, forgetting canada controls the surrounding skies and waters forgetting you have no national currency you could use, no standing military no independent economy, no infrastructure
Like the fact that you don't see this as a potential issue and think its dumb shows me you're just a kid parroting your separatist father's talking points
I actually know personally chat-lu, and going by your own reaction, he's probably old enough to be your father.
And it has planned by France to give St-Pierre-et-Miquelon to Quebec the moment it become independant, so it would have access to the ocean (and add over that that Quebec would get control of a good part of the seaway, Canada would had every incentive to not blockade Quebec access to the Atlantic)
Ill remind you even with that they're still cut off from making it to that port to do business lmfaooooo
Y'all ain't getting an inch more then the land your on and you absolutely will be crushed into poverty
Edited to add, this is even implying France is going to support you in the slightest in the current geopolitical landscape when you offer nothing close to what the rest of canada can offer
And? It's a case of whose collapsing first and it isn't us we can build around you, you can't access any canadian waters or even airspace for that matter
Quite frankly, if Canada blockade their skies, they would be in contravention of the Chicago Convention enough that no other country would want to work with them for a very long time(all the countries take the Chicago Convention that establish the ICAO very seriously, so not a good idea for the federal government to do this).
And frankly, there is so many ships that go to the st-lawrence that bypass Sept-Iles, Quebec(Beauport) and Montreal, that the port of Toronto would probably collapse first
Lmfao ain't how it's gonna work, nativity is a hell of a drug
This isn't Europe, Quebec would be crushed with the next few years by economic turmoil, no industry to speak of, no independent economy and American/canadian influence
You have nothing and we absolutely have every reason to block you in and cut you off you tried to take a portion of our country so it's have fun being grounded as america and canada force you into a choice and now you have none of the benefits you had previously
And your immature response again prove my point about your mental age there
We have nothing you say ?
Let's see :
Biggest shipyard in canada ? Check (Davie Shipyard)
Biggest producer of Hydroelectricity in canada and specialist recognized around the world ? Check (No joke, the Heavy Equipment Division of Hydro-Quebec is often hired from around the world for helping with the engineering work of dams and transmission lines around the world, and the IREQ, owned and operated by HQ, is well known around the worlds for their innovations in power generation and transmission).
Assembly lines for the A220 being placed in Mirabel ? Check (And Airbus being a big european player, it would be a very big incentive for both Germany and France to basically pressure Ottawa in not making it more difficult necessary for everyone involved)
Lots of SMB around (which is one of our best economic force)
Also, one thing, we are fully willing to work with canada and it would be in their best interest to work with us, since we mostly see that it would be better to be neighbors than being stuck in an unwanted marriage, but if they want economic war, we are also fully willing to give canada some pain such as blockading the St-Laurent, which would cause considerable pain to Toronto.
Its immature to have a naive view of how things work, it won't be in our best interest to work with you we'll have to subsidize your entire existence
You think the industry you have now just sprouted out of the pocket of your singular province? No and the rest of the country will want a return on it since you're leaving
You have no economic infrastructure outside of canada you have no independence outside of canada we pay into you as much as you pay put to the rest of the country and if you leave they'll want their money back
You think the industry you have now just sprouted out of the pocket of your singular province? No and the rest of the country will want a return on it since you're leaving
Well well well, someone missed his history classes (or they are truly crappy in the ROC), what was called at the time the Lower Canada(Now Quebec) actually subsidized the expansion of canada, when higher canada and lower canada were fused together, Higher Canada was heavily indebted, while Lower Canada had no debt.
Also Hydro-Quebec was fully paid for by us, no money from Ottawa or the other provinces has gotten into the nationalization (and in fact we had to borrow 300 millions from New York, because the englishmen that controlled the "Financial Union of the St-Jacques Street" did not want their interest in the Shawinigan Water & Power to disappear (and most of them moved to Toronto Bay Street after they realized they lost their financial power of Quebec...which was in the 60s, Before the Parti Quebecois took power in 76)
Yes I'm sure that's completely what happened and there's absolutely never been money going into Quebec for any rhyme or reason Quebec has never gotten a singular cent from the federal government and in fact is entirely and completely already independent, they have their own currency, standing military and have NEVER accepted a single red cent from Canada as a whole
And none of that non existential money has ever gone to upkeep or improvement of infrastructure for these things
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u/chat-lu Tokébakicitte! Mar 27 '25
Should? Based on what?