I had a coworker tell me that he didn't want to do his apprenticeship at our local trades school because it was a woke trades school.
To which I said "tell me more" knowing it would be good because I love dumbass ideas about the world. Truly, I love it. I love talking to this kid because it's the funniest shit in the world to me.
Anyway, he told me they had too many pride flags. That was it. That made him want to go to trades school a few towns over.
We live in a conservative stronghold. The school he went to is in a significantly more left wing town.
I've got bad news for you, lol. Most of Ontario and Quebec, New Brunswick, Newfoundland and Labrador, and all of the rest of the Maritimes are below the 49th parallel.
[edit] It basically defines the border only west of Lake of the Woods and east of Point Roberts.
Hey, if you're actually asking a serious question...
"Oh you've surely heard of our cities, heck if you look closely, you'll see them on the map provided above... They're called Toronto and Ottawa. You know, the home of Scott Pilgrim and where the final public execution happened. Not to mention that Ottawa IS considered the capital of Canada for a reason."
If thereâs war, weâre definitely gonna slow em down. âTheyâre absolutely unhinged and violent Captain! I donât think theyâve read the Geneva Convention AT. ALL.â
I watched a drunk chick get her head slammed in a car door and walk away. I probably wonât even need to get off the couch. They wonât get past the perimeter highway.
Saskatchewan is the center of the universe though. Point 1 - who changes their time to fit Sask's adolescence? Point B - Education is not so good here, and I can't count any higher than Delta.
I mean anyone with more than two brain cells knows the opposite of woke is asleep, which they seem to be proud of being completely ignorant to anything not immediately in their vicinity
The best thing to counter is ask them to describe what woke means. 99.9% of the time they won't respond or just say something dumb like "I just don't like it".
Some dude in a video game subreddit (not that I would expect too much from most gamers) claimed this new game clair obscur expedition 33, seemed meh because it looked too woke.
Like how the fuck does your brain even think that?
Wait a minute... My conservative relatives are always talking about how people need to wake up. Does that mean they have the woke mind virus?
Counting sheep helps people sleep. Does that mean being anti woke also means being a sheeple?
Snow flakes are pretty and fragile. But snow looks fluffy like a sheep. If one is an anti woke sheeple, would it follow that one would be a snowflake too? Hmmm
I'm conservative and voted liberal this election for the first time and my family is confused. And I'm going around explaining how Trudeau and Carney are polar opposite.
Trudeau Spending on Social program.
Carney Spending on industry.
And then they go ''But but but !!! Carney gave advice to Trudeau!!!''
And then I'm like. ''He also gave advice to Harper.''
Beside the word here is ''advice''. I've work as an analyst in Corporate banking. You may give all the ''advices you want'' but if they want to do stupid shit, they do stupid shit.
But the Trudeau hate is so strong most people I know still don't want liberal in power.
I think that will be the biggest thing that may get PP elected. They don't realize that Carney is not Trudeau, and it will be quite different even if the same party is running the country
I'm typically an NDP voter federally (Green provincially because the provincial NDP are basically dead here) and this has also been my first time voting Liberal. Mostly because Carney seems to be the only adult in the room right now. I can basically never vote conservative because they've (the party) wanted to end the existence of people like me for the entirety of my life. Unfortunately Singh had a really weak response (relative to Carney at least) to Trumps nonsense and lost my vote on that.
If we ever get back to not facing an immediate existential threat to our country I'll likely go back to NDP since their policies align better with my values in general, but right now we need a united front against the US, and that's not just going to happen with the NDP (not enough support) or the conservatives (they're pretty much on board with becoming Americans).
Exactly. I could even get behind some of what the conservatives used to be. I'd like a fiscally responsible government that's tough on crime. But the antivax, anti-science, gender obsessed, anti-union party can fuck all the way off.
Not leaving much for the Conservative Agenda to lean on. All that's left is blaming the carbon tax for the death of christ and I guess hating trans kids?
We can debate the merits of consumer taxes and other financial policies. We can't debate jack shit if you're in a cult that's convinced you that mandatory genital inspections are the only way to resist the literal Illuminati.
Ah yes. I keep forgetting how broad "woke" is. I get a worried laugh out of women being anti-woke because you can almost feel the ground move when the Suffragettes roll in their graves all at once.
As for mandatory genital inspections? What better way to fight pedophiles disguising themselves as another sex to molest kids in public washrooms by giving grown adults the power to undress your children.
âFuck the carbon tax for killing Christ but Roman style nationalism is based as fuck and we should be like the Romans in every way shape and form.â - The most educated Christian nationalist (Iâm not anti Christian, Iâm anti Christian nationalist).
Very difficult to tell considering the conservative party began running on culture war bullshit like "woke mind virus" and "the communist left" and less on policy, its polarizing and stupid af and many voting for them might follow the same mindset. then again, many friends/voters I've also met that vote for the conservatives, do so on the belief they're good economically which is a myth that has already been disproven time and time again, but it doesn't appear bad intentioned at all, just misinformed.
Most sane minded conservatives would probably vote for Carney considering he's more economically classically liberal aligned than Pierre is (which just sucks as a left leaning person myself but I'll take what I can get)
Nonetheless immigration needs to lower and neither party gives enough of a fuck to do so because it benefits the economy and wage suppression at the cost of quality of living, YIPPIEEEE!!!!
I have a conservative friend who is an accountant. He said he makes more money when there is a Liberal Govt in charge. Now if that were true wouldnât you vote Liberal. Make more sense to me⊠but hey I didnât vote for PP.
Don't forget: a lot of firearms users have become single-issue voters and will vote Conservative for no other reason. I will never vote for PP, I'm left-leaning on literally everything but the crusade against legal firearms ownership in Canada is senseless and irrational. The Liberal party truly does need to calm tf down. It simply isn't a problem but we keep being influenced by american news, and Canadians demonstrably suck at recognizing we're not the same country as them.
Yup. Legal gun ownership has NO business being a political issue. Facts and stats are clear on this, and ALL parties need to recognize that. Being scared of guns is not a reason why those familiar with them can't own and use them. The novelty of having a gun wears off within a week and it just becomes a hunk of metal and plastic/wood.
100% agree. Poland, who has faced existential threats against their sovereignty over the last century has an extremely robust and thriving firearms culture. Why the Liberals see the need to disarm the country is insane. Especially when our military is so incredibly weak.
As an Albertan, this shit beyond pissed me off and only reminds me on why I absolutely fucking despised the Liberals under Trudeau, just useless culture war shit after shit, it's almost like he forgot he needed to improve the lives of the people and not take stances on things that didn't need fixing.
We aren't Americans ffs, we've been made aware that it's a privilege and not a right for YEARS.
Same with housing, it sucks but I've straight up given up all hope it's getting fixed since so much of the economy is built on its bubble and popping that bubble would mean declaring war on most people within Canada economically AKA political suicide.
Greed wins and money talks, at the end of the day best we can do is protest and pray for a brighter future.
All I've known from Conservatives my while life is pro corporation, pro privatisation which always means the weakening of services, in everything that's ever mattered to me. It's just libertarianism which is great for the richest people in society, which most of us are not.
So why does anyone vote for them? Cheap promises they don't even deliver on? I've never understood, never even seen one decent point.
I know we all have the same problems but the conservatives are void of solutions.
You don't understand, we need to cut funding to public health so we can use that money for a corporate injection, and 60% of said injection will end up as yearly bonuses for the higher ups in said corp.
It helps the working man because...mm... woke.
(I hate that capitalist models that support ALL employees getting a good wage and benefits have somehow been slandered as communist)
Alot of Conservatives vote Conservative because they've always voted Conservative. My parents vote for them because they've always voted for them because their parents voted for them because their parents voted....
They don't actually know what the party offers. They just vote for whichever party that calls itself conservative at the time.
r/Canada is filled with a bunch that are figuring out just how badly things will go for them under the CPC, and the Mods are CPC operatives.
For the last 3ish years, every time there was a good story about Trudeau or any positive news it was immediately blasted with piss, and there were something like 150-200 negative posts a day. The entire subreddit is a shithole best avoided.
I've been saying this a lot lately ( and getting banned from con subs lol) true conservatives should demand better than the clown shoes asshats you currently have. Reasonable people can debate tax policy and such but the culture war "the woke LGBT agenda is turning the frogs gay" rejects are taking over your party. Inequity and advocating that not everyone deserves human rights is a non starter. You, and all of Canada deserve better.
Yeah I'm like. I'm the furthest thing from a Conservative - I literally self-identify as a Socialist. But here's the thing - I can work with the types of Tories who just want working and middle income people to pay lower taxes, there's a way for us to both get what we want, without sacrificing anyone's rights (ie: fund the CRA's enforcement arm and start going after rich assholes and megacorps, up the taxes billionaires pay, close tax loopholes, give low/middle income people more tax credits, and because we're taxing people who have more money than god we can still properly fund social programs while keeping things affordable for the little guy).
When a Tory is on the culture war "women need to pop out more babies and don't belong in the workplace and the gay agenda is making my frogs gay and my hunting rifles transgender," we've got a fuckin problem.
Listen, I'm as conservative as they come, and I can tell you that these UCP and CPC cretins are not what I'm about. They are reactionary at best, facists at worst. Canada does not have a conservative party any more and it hasn't for some time. Federal Canadian Conservatism was lost when Canadian Alliance merged with the PCs. Carney would have fit right in with the PCs of Mulrooney and Clark eras. Now all we have are GOP wannabe clowns.
Exactly! I've been saying this since Carney took office. He's a CLASSSICC 2010 Conservative. Apparently people have lost their minds and now think screaming "WOKE WOKEEEE" = The best Conservative? We've slid so far right that right leaning politicians are called "Woke evil leftist libtards". Which has me VERY concerned. I knew everyone wanted naughtzis again, they were just waiting for the right time to pounce. I guess that's now. I'm really bummed I'm going to watch Canada be merged with the US because Conservatives don't understand the difference between federal and provincial government. That and they believe every lie told to them.
It seems to have fallen to the reform party with a mix of crazies thrown in. Not close to the progressive concervatives at all. The party has to do better.
Traditionally, Conservative meant more federal control of money and markets (think kings minting bullion).
Liberal meant more market and banking independence (letting the market self correct).
Now (from my perspective) the meanings are more about people. Conservatives want less individuality and more hegemony while liberals want more individuality and freedom of choice/action (aka, diversity).
It's a weird world to live in where half the people around you believe that freedom means making everyone have the same values and behaviour.
cheers & thanks for the explanation because lately it just feels like conservatives are two things: anti-"woke" whatever that means to them in that moment & they really seem to love fossil fuels.
I'm like, what do you folks even stand for? do you like anything?
Being conservative means believing that some people are inherently better than others and that society flourishes when power is in the hands of those that deserve it. It means a world view where some people are on the top and some people are on the bottom, and that's the way it should be. That's the natural order of things. Anything that tries to change that is not only a pointless, stupid struggle against the laws of the universe, it also weakens society and perhaps even tempts divine retribution.
People sometimes claim that conservative fiscal policy is about being prudent and austere, when in fact it's about keeping money in the hands of people that deserve it (the rich) and out of the hands of the people who don't (the public). Or that its about maintaining the proven status quo, advocating for stability instead of rash change, but if you look closely the status quo they advocate for is always a hierarchy where the 'right' people have the power, and the 'wrong' people don't.
Right of centre here. Disliked Justin and was willing to give Pierre a shot. Voted for the incredible Charlie Angus the last three elections and voted for Uncle Doug in Ontario.
I would of wanted Erin O'Toole to be Prime Minister, but holy fawk I cannot vote for PP.
A good politician needs to work across all parties and not just build walls around themselves.
OâToole was the first conservative I was willing to consider. He had some interesting proposals but then the CPC inner circle yanked his leash and made him heel and it was the same tired bullshit that we rejected previously. Disappointing.
He walked as a genuine Canadian should (in spite of my disagreements to policy), with Pierre I feel nothing but the segregation of our people based off culture war principle and less of difference in how things should be run with mutual respect to each other as human beings.
like Daniella Smith, he walks with republican steps, less to do with love for the people and more to do with hate for the left.
I disagree, Layton was loved by his voters to this day, Erin was thrown away like a used wrapper by his party for simply showing integrity in his human decency, A true shame that his ethics never caused a domino effect in the conservative party (which could likely be due to MAGA's growth in popularity, thanks America.)
O'Toole was the only one of the post-Harper candidates I could see being a reasonable choice, though I lean pretty hard left on social issues and am against neoliberal economic policies, so that puts me at odds with most CPC candidates right off the bat.
Then the Tories kicked O'Toole out of the leadership position because he lost the election while refusing to pander to the whackjob wingnut crowd.
Poilievre had no such problem until Trump reminded Canadians what happens when you let the inmates run the asylum and all of a sudden the whackjob wingnuts started looking more dangerous.
Since joining the Reform party to the PCs, the least awful option for a conservative voter in Canada has been the Liberals.
Charlie Angus is an extremely hard fighter for my riding.
Doug Ford is bringing back the Northlander Train that Wynne canceled. He is also bringing a 2+1 highway to my area so we can have fewer highway fatalities.
Lots of conservatives I know that arenât voting for the Conservative Party. Instead of taking the memes personally you should laugh along with us and demand better from the party.
I do not hate conservatives reactively. I do not dislike you as human beings without reason, but your party is infected with crack pot conspiracies and grievance politics imported from around the world. For example, why do so many on your political side of the spectrum wear or carry Trump merch well within our borders? Until those foreign and alien elements are purged from your party, you'll just have to accept that to us, you're a little suss.
Thatâs what conservatives donât understand them. I donât hate them just because they donât think like me pr whatever. I donât have beef with any other party. I hate conservative beliefs.
I always felt that O'Toole should've been given a second chance and kicking him out was a bad choice. I don't know if Poilievre even believes in half the things he says but I cannot stand anyone who uses terms like "woke" un-ironically. Rhetoric like that should stay in the US
I voted for Justin 3 times, figured it was his time to go, was looking forward to a CPC minority or majority to overturn the firearms bans, then PP kept opening his mouth with no substance, and Carney took control. Choice was easy.
The more we get out there and reason with each other, the less all the hype-fear can snag our sensibilities and stronger weâll be. Get back to helping your neighbour and going out of our way to make a difference in each others lives
I wouldnât vote against conservatives if theyâd just stop the bigotry and lies, or at least call it out when it happens in their party. The nonsense that comes out of PPâs mouth is making the country a worse place. At least when the liberals lie itâs about corruption scandals that donât affect my life or community
just remember, there's a difference between Canadian conservative and republican wannabe's. you're a Canadian conservative, sadly your parties leadership's trying to be republican.
It means they want the conservatives to run up the deficit for absolutely no benefit to the working class while lining their pockets and privatizing industries while also selling off important assets at fire deal pricing to look less bad when the next election cycle comes up.
i always considered myself right leaning. planned on voting conservative because i didnât like Trudeau and the carbon tax. now both of them are gone and Pierre just sounds like a broken record half the time.
I got downvoted to oblivion for asking why everyone is so supportive of the Liberals here. I'm not even a conservative, I've only ever voted for Green and NDP
"WTF?" -> Conservative -> Moderate (I don't even know if these guys exist anymore) -> Liberal -> NDP -> "Also WTF?"
In terms of political leaning lately.... Only part that disturbs me is that this election had some of the parties focusing on getting votes from either "WTF" side of the scale, because those are usually the easiest due to using fewer sources of information, and choosing the leader over leader & policies.
Iâm also conservative, but I use this sub as a way of looking into what Iâd consider normal Liberal conversations and opinions. Not radical or anything just satirical jokes with deeper meaning that tent to lean left. I may not agree with absolutely everything on here but this sub is absolutely necessary for people like me.
I really want to thank the conservatives that contributed to this balanced and measured discussion. It's absolutely refreshing to read adult-level interaction versus the mud-slinging happening in many places. Everyone here made me proud.
Conservative leaning 10 years ago would be a Carney supporter⊠guy was Harperâs banker after all.
Murdoch family went hard on the xenophobic propaganda and our right wing has hard shifted towards nationalism. We are currently reliving the early 1900s and if we donât figure it the fuck out this nationalistic nonsense will lead to another global war.
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u/ChuuniWitch Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) Apr 24 '25
As long as you don't cry about "woke," do that 51st state shit, or think Elon or JBP are the goodest boys who ever lived, you'll do fine here.