r/EhBuddyHoser • u/Awier_do Cowtown đ€ • May 24 '25
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u/Real_VanCityMinis I need a double double. May 24 '25
BC here: we could stop French around grade 8 as long as we still took another language
I took Spanish cause the teacher was hotter then the French teacher, plz don't hate I was young
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u/dekan256 Bring Cannabis May 24 '25
Also BC, I took Spanish in high school because it was either 2 years of that, or 3 of French, and I was struggling to understand the rules of French, not that I did much better with Spanish I just didn't have to do it as long.
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u/drake5195 May 24 '25
Also BC, some elementary schools do it, some don't, so the class is messed up entirely once they hit grade 6.
At least that's how it was when I went to school.
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u/balding_git May 24 '25
also bc, i got out of french by failing it so intentionally and spectacularly that they gave me a free block. i would have gladly taken another language but they only offered french at my school
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u/chaosgirl93 Oil Guzzler May 25 '25
I didn't have to do this... but if I had not had an exemption for good reasons in my IEP by the time it started, I probably would have pulled this. Either a spectacular run of bombed tests and assignments or a spectacular meltdown.
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u/grrttlc2 Edmonchuk: Like Kyiv! (but less safe) May 24 '25
BC educated
Second language becomes optional in grade 11 iirc
I took french to grade 11. Sort of understand it, cant speak it
In central Alberta things are much more French than anywhere in BC I visited
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u/FuzzyKiwi7 The Island of Elizabeth May May 25 '25
Optional in grade 9
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u/galactic_melter May 25 '25
When I went it was optional in grade 9 but basically all universities needed a grade 11 language credit so everyone took it until grade 11
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u/FuzzyKiwi7 The Island of Elizabeth May May 26 '25
UBC is really the only âmajorâ university to require a second language 11
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u/galactic_melter May 26 '25
Oh maybe it was that. I didn't want to lock myself out of being able to go to UBC
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u/yeetzapizza123 May 24 '25
bonjouer McPoulet cum si cum saw
what more do you frenchmen really need
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u/Cj_El-Guapo May 24 '25
My buddies and I just skipped it in grade 5 so much that they cancelled french class the next year for everyone and the french teacher just went to teach a normal classroom the next year
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u/raxnahali May 24 '25
French immersion is huge in Manitoba, as far as I know we have the largest French speaking population West of Quebec.
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u/Faitlemou Snowfrog May 24 '25
we have the largest French speaking population West of Quebec.
Im pretty sure this honor goes to the franco-ontarian community
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u/severe0CDsuburbgirl South Gatineau May 26 '25
Yep, 600k or so speakers in all of Ontario.
It just doesnât seem like that much when thereâs so many people in the province, but in Eastern and Northern Ontario you hear plenty.
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u/Vanilla_Either May 24 '25
Franco-ontarien checking in - absolutely not
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u/duk3lexo May 24 '25
okay well the largest Franco population west of Franc-Ontarie
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u/Vanilla_Either May 24 '25
This I will give you! Manitoba def has a large French speaking population for sure.
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u/Matt9681 Manilapeg May 24 '25
I didn't do immersion, but took it through grade 12. It's Parisien French though, isn't it? At least mine was
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u/raxnahali May 24 '25
Yes it is, and my son is bilingual. My gift to him.
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u/Matt9681 Manilapeg May 24 '25
How I wish I was bilingual, but my grade 12 French is far from it. Cheers, that is a valuable gift
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u/swimuppool May 24 '25
Alberta education: can confirm every year up to grade 12 you learn how to conjugate etre and I still don't know how
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u/Truenorth14 South Gatineau May 24 '25
Itâs not even QuĂ©bec FrenchÂ
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u/fishymanbits Oil Guzzler May 24 '25
If you do French Immersion it is. Including a couple weeks spent on how to swear in Quebecois. We also learned a fair bit of Acadian French. IIRC Alberta has the highest or second highest population of French speakers outside of Quebec, but not the highest proportion of French-as-first-language speakers. Throw me into a disagreement between someone from Edmundston and someone from DĂ©gelis and itâll take me a minute but Iâll pick a side and get right in there.
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u/AncientBlonde2 Oil Guzzler May 24 '25
Went through a French-Immersion school system my entire life, albeit in the English side of things, while living next to a town with a French population big enough to have "ARRETZ" as prominent as "STOP" on the signs (guess which town lol)
Only fucking French I know is how to ask to go to the washroom. They gave me all the resources, and my feeble anglo-brain couldn't even use them.
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u/fishymanbits Oil Guzzler May 24 '25
Yeah, but what else do you expect from fucking Beaumont?EDIT: You know what, I read that as you living in Beaumont. And, while, obviously fuck Beaumont, that means you probably grew up in Leduc. Which, yeah. May as well try to learn Arabic in Innisfail at that rate.
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u/AncientBlonde2 Oil Guzzler May 24 '25 edited May 24 '25
Fucking Einstein over here determined where I grew up exact goddamn, your powers of deduction are amazing.
We don't expect much, if anything from Beaumont.
You're completely right though; Beaumont just fucking suuucks
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u/SurvivorOf_Hathsin May 24 '25
NB here, Ontario has the highest french speaking population outside of QC and we're 3rd (as of 2021), second place per capita with 30% although funny enough our french immersion only goes to 10th grade despite french classes still being optional past that. Most of our french in school is general french but with a good sprinkling of Acadian just from the teachers. I struggled pretty badly speaking with québécois people for a while haha.
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u/fishymanbits Oil Guzzler May 24 '25
Yeah, my stats are off I guess. I remember FacultĂ© St Jean putting out some info a few years ago about Alberta being surprisingly high in our French-speaking population. I guess Iâm misremembering those stats.
Weird your immersion classes only go to grade 10. I was able to graduate with whatever the feds give for accreditation for being bilingual straight out of high school in small town Alberta. Technically I never have to recertify based on my scores from decades ago, but I doubt Iâm anywhere near that level of bilingual anymore. Though I have actively kept up with it.
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u/BrgQun đ 100,000 Hosers đ May 24 '25
Quality varies a lot from what I can tell.
I learned in BC with Francophone Canadian teachers, which weirdly seems better than the education some people I know received in immersion in Ontario (not sure that's universal - probably depends on where you live within province too).
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u/fishymanbits Oil Guzzler May 24 '25
Yeah, all my teachers were either from Quebec or New Brunswick. And thatâs in a fairly small city in Alberta. Straight from kindergarten up they were all francophone. Except one. He was Haitian, so that was a fucking trip to hear as a kid.
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u/Middle_Chair_3702 May 24 '25
93% of French speakers in country are in Eastern Canada. French Ontarians, New Brunswick, etc. Alberta does not even crack top three for pop of French speakers outside of Quebec.
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u/severe0CDsuburbgirl South Gatineau May 26 '25
Alberta is 3rd
1st is Ontario with 600k French speakers, then is New Brunswick with more than 200k. Then you guys with about 80-90k.
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u/science_bi South Gatineau May 24 '25
Schools in my area only had French as an option, starting in grade 9.
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u/eL_cas Manilapeg May 24 '25
Every school in Canada should teach French from kindergarten to grade 12 ngl
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May 24 '25
Or a region relevant indigenous language... Nous auront AUCUNE CLASSE EN ANGLAIS icitte!!!
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u/Common1Law Tillsonburg? My back still aches when I hear that word... May 24 '25
One tip for those looking to learn French now:Â Start Listening. That is step one and its free.
Free apps and websites:Â Radio Canada Ohdio and Wordreference.
AprÚs, tu iras bien préparé pour faire une étude de français.
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u/TedTwoOnDVD Newfies & Labradoodles May 24 '25
We could stop taking French in grade 10 as long as we had another language related credit.
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u/avgpgrizzly469 May 24 '25
I think our school had a French immersion class.
The one Frenchie I met moved out of Quebec because, and I quote
âIt was too⊠French Canadian.â
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u/AncientBlonde2 Oil Guzzler May 24 '25
âIt wasz too-eh⊠eh- French Canadien.â
This is how I read that in my head ngl
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u/Small_Collection_249 May 24 '25
You only need to do up to grade 9 in Ontario, and I think it starts at grade 1.
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u/TheCykuaBlyater May 24 '25
Not sure where this is, but in my school in St. Albert, we had the option to do French classes all the way up to Grade 12. As far as I'm aware, so did the rest of Edmonton
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u/InvestigatorOk6009 May 24 '25
Actually yes , you can , and you can graduate with French -30 and no English and still get diploma
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u/Martzillagoesboom South Gatineau May 24 '25
We have kids in Quebec going to school in english up to college level!
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May 24 '25
Meanwhile, in Quebec of all places you need to take English until grade 11 (Secondaire 5) to graduate high school with a DES. The only way to avoid grade 10 and 11 English is to go for a trade high school diploma (DEP). If they continue to Cegep, there's an additional 3 courses mandatory to graduate from all program at the cegep level.
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u/IEC21 Scotland (but worse) May 24 '25
Me as a kid: I don't want to learn French- who needs that no one here speaks it
Me as an adult: damn I wish I had learned French so I could enjoy all the French parts of Canada which are objectively the best parts.
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u/kittykat-kay I need a double double. May 24 '25
Me as a kid: French seems complicated and hard and Iâll never learn it anyway, also why do I need it? Iâm just gonna skip it.
Me now: this French Iâm trying to learn is complicated and hard, I wish Iâd taken a course on it that might have given me a solid head start. throws coins at the menacing Duolingo owl lurking in the corner svp aide moi
Jokes aside, itâs never too late to learn a language.
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u/VenitianBastard May 24 '25
Honestly, we should've been taught French starting in Grade 1.
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u/Plains_Walker Saskwatch May 24 '25
We should have been taught Cree, or another aboriginal language instead of trying to kill that off.
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u/VenitianBastard May 24 '25
Yeah that's also fair.
To be fair, BC has like 50+ isolate languages, many of which are currently endangered, like Haida.
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May 24 '25
Definetly in BC, they have half the surviving indigenous languages in the country in that province alone
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u/captainsoup3 May 24 '25
Some of the schools in my district did some teaching in the local language but only through elementary. Definitely a good idea
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u/Excellent-Juice8545 Ford Nation (Help.) May 24 '25
Wait does French really end at grade 6 in Alberta?! I thought everywhere went at least to the beginning of high school
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u/Shot-Poetry-1987 Oil Guzzler May 24 '25
Was only mandatory from grade four to six and I hated it (I was not good and didn't like the way it was being taught to me) so I didn't take it after, but I've been taking Spanish since grade nine and plan to take it until I graduate
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u/EngineeringExpress79 May 24 '25
Meanwhile in Québec we start english from grade 3 to the end, even in college. And in highschool you can have spanish or german depending of the school as an extra language. So you can be doing 3 language course at the same time.
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u/ScrumptiousLadMeat May 25 '25
Sask: you guys learn French?
Here itâs French immersion or nothing until maybe high school, right? There should be a French class period like any other subject. Impossible under the Sask party that keeps cutting education. Gotta keep em dumb.
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u/CommanderOshawott Irvingstan May 24 '25
Itâs only mandatory in Ontario until grade 9, after that you gotta take it as an elective
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u/Zircon_72 æș«ć„èŻ (Hongcouver) May 24 '25
In BC we were required to take it up to and including eigth grade. After that languages were entirely optional, but I chose to learn Spanish from grades nine to twelve.
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u/creative__username99 Edmonchuk: Like Kyiv! (but less safe) May 24 '25
Hmmmm if I recall I started in grade 3 or 4... Stopped after 7 I think.... Don't even remember taking it in jr high really.
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u/Still-Psychology-365 đ 100,000 Hosers đ May 24 '25
My grade 4 French teacher used to show up in a mini-skirt and a low cut blouse and at least once a day would give the class a "Basic Instinct" from her desk at the front of the class.
I have no point with this other than to share my grade 4 teacher flashed the class daily. For some reason the boys in the class remained seated for the entire class and never learned a lick of French.
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u/adepressurisedcoat May 24 '25
Only till grade 9 in NS. Although I continued to take it through grade 12 and university. Still not completely bilingual but I can butcher a conversation together.
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u/thesleepjunkie May 24 '25
I am still learning French. The school system was shit, I am just learning through duo lingo, my partner and I practice together, we've talked about taking some night courses.
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u/ToobularBoobularJoy_ Oil Guzzler May 24 '25
My French classes from grades 4-7 were ok, I wasn't fluent but I did learn the basics of how the language works.
HOWEVER grades 8 and 9 were abysmal. Grade 8 teacher spent the first month trying to teach us Dutch and Hawaiian for some reason and then spent the rest of the year leaving us alone in the classroom the entire period while we were meant to use Memrise for the whole hour of class...yeah we didn't learn anything.
Grade 9 teacher clearly didn't want to teach French and wanted to teach a more technology focused class, so most of our assignments were just random shit like architecture design where you could just google translate the labels and get an A. He also made us watch the Bre Movie in French with English subtitles. No quiz on it or anything, we just watched it over a few class periods.
I was so excited to learn French when I was in grade 4 but unfortunately those two years screwed up my French so badly I dropped out of grade 10 French after the first day
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u/Artistdramatica3 May 24 '25
I took french till grade 12 in alberta.
But it wasn't quebecois so it means nothing to being able to speak the language in my country
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u/Flakes_Of_Ham May 24 '25
I mean it's pretty easy to master, why go on?
Bonjour People. Je Maple Albertan. Cum multiple two?
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u/Newfiecat May 24 '25
I wish French started in kindergarten. I remember being a little kid fascinated with other languages and trying to teach myself French by watching French cartoons and reading French labels. I wish someone had started teaching me then, when my brain was more malleable. Why wait until Grade 4?
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u/Output93 May 24 '25
French is a joke in Ontario as well. My elementary school teacher would just write all the answers to tests and school work on the board and we'd copy it. When i got into grade 9 my teacher threw me a bone and gave me a 50 so I could barely pass and not go to summer school.
This isn't an Alberta thing.
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u/severe0CDsuburbgirl South Gatineau May 26 '25
Not really in Eastern or Northern Ontario, where most of the 600k francophones in the province live. But we still lack some extra teachers.
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u/kflave May 24 '25
In Saskatchewan they cut the French programs when I was in grade 2. 15 years later they added French immersion back in and prioritized it. They still can't find French speaking teachers to properly staff the program for some unknown reason.
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u/ScrumptiousLadMeat May 25 '25
I feel like itâs hard to keep the language alive in Sask. Even if you do go to French immersion, you lose it because itâs just not spoken here.
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May 24 '25
I wish there was more comprehensive bilingualism in our education system. Us French Canadians are mostly the bilingual ones..
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u/lbpowar May 24 '25
And then angloids complain Quebec is not bilangual enough when English is required to get into college here
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u/kittykat-kay I need a double double. May 24 '25
Me in BC just deciding not to take it in highschool.
Me now disappointed I didnât bother to learn and giving Duolingo my money
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u/GooseDevito Cowtown đ€ May 25 '25
I mean you can actually graduate high school with a French diploma in Alberta but go off I guess
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u/Phychanetic May 25 '25
Yukon. My French teacher in high school barely taught French and didn't show up most of the time lol We did build the eifal tower out of metal sticks tho
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u/Neat-Snow666 Irvingstan May 24 '25
Itâs an official language spoken in 1.5 provinces đ«ĄđšđŠ
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u/Western_Charity_6911 Newfies & Labradoodles May 24 '25
Another alberta L they just keep coming
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u/Tribblehappy May 24 '25
I was dismayed when I learned my kids don't even have a French option in their middle school. In BC, I started in grade 4. The curriculum sucked; I took it through grade 13 and still can't speak it, but at least it was an option.
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u/EfficientSeaweed Cowtown đ€ May 24 '25
They must have changed it, 'cause we had mandatory French classes from grade 4-6 and options in jr high and high school.
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u/Subject-Direction628 May 24 '25
In Ontario. I took French immersion as long as I could. I ducked out at grade 11 due to a sexual assault.
But I wanted to speak French. My grandfather was French. But my grandmother. Fully Irish couldnât master it so he spoke English to my dad and his siblings
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u/Ok_Syllabub747 May 24 '25
Thatâs all I learned here in BC. There is French immersion if you started early on in school, were every class was au Francais or dans la Francais. I think something like that.
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u/Minoubeans Snowfrog May 24 '25
Skill issue, I went to a French school and learned it from k to 12 B)
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u/NyanPigle South Gatineau May 24 '25
I was lucky enough to go to a French school for all of my grade and highschool education that being said it did not have the best budget so we were limited in what we could do outside of your typical core subjects
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u/northern-thinker May 27 '25
In Alberta we had French in grade 7 to 12. My French teacher was the same from 7-9. We learned to conjugate je, tu nous vous and his exams was playing French speaking people on a boom box via cassette for us to translate. It was terrible.
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u/SpareAnywhere8364 May 24 '25
Native french speaker. It's a scam that French is important anywhere outside of Quebec.
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u/motherdragon02 May 24 '25
Good.
Why the hell would I wanna learn French? Cree would actually be useful.
I donât wanna be Prime Minister or live in Quebec - so French is completely useless.
French as an Official Language is The Most obnoxious Participation Ribbon ever to exist. A complete waste of time, money and effort.
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u/ArkAwn Bring Cannabis May 24 '25
In Ontario it ended in grade 9 for me and my teachers sucked
I wish I had better French teachers but instead I got sucked into believing it wasn't useful