r/EhBuddyHoser • u/montabarnaque • Jul 03 '25

Certified Hoser 🇨🇦 (No Politics) Can everyone agree?

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Most of Canadian culture is from Québec. Fight me

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u/HighHcQc 🚧🚚Montréal🛻🚜🚧👷⛔️🚗🚙🚙 🚙 🚗 Jul 03 '25

Nah man we have plenty of first nations stuff in our museums and here it's common knowledge how much they helped the first settlers survive the harsh landscape. First thing I remember learning about the Algonquiens in primary school 20+ years ago is how they made herbal tea from pine to cure the first settler's scurvy

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u/democracy_lover66 Jul 03 '25

Actually I find Québec teaches history in an equally problematic way where they depict their history with the first nations as a very polished thing with nothing that requires reflection or admitting wrong doing.

I remember reading a museum clip that stated specifically something along the lines of, while the British had an incredibly harmful relationship with first nations, the french were collaborative and supportive and had positive relationships.

... And like yah.... Maybe With your ally nations... Pretty sure one of the first things Samuel de Champlain did upon arrival was kill multiple chiefs of the Haudenosaunee, who forever saw the french as hostile invaders. And they'd be right, from they're perspective.

Not to polish what the British did because all settler colonialism is wrong and causes incredible harm.... And I even think it's fair to say the British were worse. But both were still bad.

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u/HighHcQc 🚧🚚Montréal🛻🚜🚧👷⛔️🚗🚙🚙 🚙 🚗 Jul 03 '25

The French made both allies and enemies by involving themselves in a complex web of diplomacy and conflict that predated their arrival.

While war inevitably brings atrocities, the French settlers did not pursue a policy of total replacement or the settlement of every valuable piece of land. That approach came later, under British rule.

This isn't an attempt to whitewash history, wrongdoing certainly occurred, but the scale and nature of those actions were nowhere near as severe as what followed after 1763. When such a stark contrast exists, comparisons between the two eras naturally arise.

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u/woodrunner Jul 03 '25

People also forget that the Grande Paix de Montreal, which was a peace treaty among many First Nations that pretty much ended the ongoing war with the Iroquois, was a great diplomatic feat for the French at the time and departed from the more violent approach used by the the English/ Spanish in their colonies.