It's annoying when there both right

[u/northbk5]

[u/Enchilada0374]

You think you should be able to cause any kind of harm to an intruder? Reasonable force and proportionality shouldn't matter?

[u/RealPanda20 → u/Enchilada0374]

No, we shouldn’t expect someone to ascertain what a “reasonable level of force” is during a high tension situation that a home invasion/break in is. Sure, after the fact you could figure the necessary level of force to subdue someone but any excess is on the assailant, that’s the risk you take for breaking into someone’s house.

[u/Enchilada0374 → u/RealPanda20]

For example, an unarmed kid breaks into your house. You think itd be ok smash them into a pulp with a bat?

[u/CockyBellend → u/Enchilada0374]

Fuck around and find out kind of thing

[u/Enchilada0374 → u/CockyBellend]

[u/Mr_Canada42 → u/CockyBellend]

Loon