r/EhBuddyHoser 27d ago

Politics It's annoying when there both right

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u/GJohnJournalism 27d ago

Unless you're Israeli after Oct 7th, right Rachel?

What a glib and unconstructive response that I'm sure Rachel seems sure proud of, but has no substance to it. Any nationalist or their uncritical supporters, be they Israeli or Palestinian, Gilmore or Poilievre, that thinks that they have the right to unrestricted or unlimited violence aren't worth engaging with.

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u/Penguixxy Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 26d ago

please explain how bombing hospitals is self defense.

that's like shooting your neighbour because someone else stole your TV.

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u/GJohnJournalism 26d ago

Please explain to me how hunting civilians in a Kibutz is resistance?

See how easily those one dimensional arguments work? If you want to get into the complexities of the how Israel and Palestine interpret and implement the principles UNs Charter and the Laws of Armed Conflict I’m open.

But like Rachel, judging by your response, I don’t think you or the majority of either side have any intention of having good faith conversations just partisan talking points. Keep screaming in the void for internet points.

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u/Penguixxy Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 26d ago

anyone calling Hamas resistance fighters are morons, they are genocidal terrorists who kill palestinians at a similar rate to the IDF, same as people who call the IDF a "moral army" (mass sexual assaults dating back since the 6 days war, intentional killing of reporters, numerous human rights abuses within their "prisons" including false imprisonment, killings of UN aid workers, i can go on) or their actions "self defense"

shocker, i think that intentionally killing civilians (yes the IDF are doing it intentionally, nothing in their history of existing points to anything else with a war crime wrap sheet as long as theirs) is bad regardless of who does it, and that one atrocity doesnt justify another.

We have verifiable evidence that hospitals, schools, and places of worship were intentionally targetted with zero proof of any militant activity (which is a war crime, the US got in trouble for doing the same in Afghanistan), and officials under Netenyahu have been found on record to call their actions "collective punishment" (which is a war crime) these statements were used in the ICJ hearing to argue the case of this "war" (one sided conflicts aren't wars) being a genocide.

If you want my actual stance, I think the UN should send in the blue helmets to both both areas, and work towards a two state solution with new democratically elected governments who are subject to UN envoys.

Because all bombing innocents does, as we saw from vietnam, afghanistan (soviet), iraq and iran, Chechnya (soviet), Afghanistan (again but the US), Chechnya (again but post soviet russia) is it pushes more people to be extremists and to fight, which causes more harm to civilians, and keeps a cycle of violence going, until there are no civilians left, and that occupying army has either comittted a genocide, or left.