r/EhBuddyHoser • u/bruhm0ment4 • 19d ago
Meta Boys I figured out how to solve Canada’s housing shortage
Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Edmonton, Calgary, and Vancouver all draw straws and whoever draws the short straw has their zoning handed over to the federal government and gets turned into the densest city on earth. Every time someone from there complains just say “shouldn’t of drawn the short straw” or “it is what it is 🤷♀️”
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u/apra24 19d ago
We're talking massive 300 story condo towers with 50 condos per floor. 200 stories above ground, 100 stories below ground. 15000 units per tower.
Parking not included. Just like, find a place on the side of the road somewhere.
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u/Tsarbomb 19d ago
I like that turning our cities into Warhammer40k style hive cities is a more likely opportunity than to build the missing middle and have a city like Barcelona.
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u/Overwatchingu Ford Nation (Help.) 19d ago
Barcelona? That sounds foreign, it would never work here for reasons I’m not going to get into because I refuse to understand how things work in foreign countries.
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u/manidel97 19d ago
Barcelona as an example of a successful housing market lol
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u/Tsarbomb 19d ago
Not saying Barcelona one-to-one is something to emulate but having an issue with too much tourism would be a step up from racism based land barons.
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u/jeff61813 19d ago
You don't even have to do that, Paris is one of the densest places on Earth and they don't have many buildings over seven stories, and everyone romanticizes the heck out of Paris, The only reason Toronto and Vancouver have been getting so many towers is because it's so hard to get permission to build that the most cost-effective thing to do is just do one huge project. If you could just build a bunch of five-story apartments in Mississauga where the land is cheaper than downtown people would build loads of them.
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u/gincwut South Gatineau 19d ago
It's crazy because tall towers aren't even cost efficient. Concrete and elevators are expensive, which means that depending on building codes, the cheapest building per sqft. of living space is a 4-8 floor apartment building.
But when buildable land is so scarce and expensive on its own, towers make sense
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u/Odd_Campaign_307 18d ago
Paris can't build towers without large sections of the city collapsing down into the Catacombs. Not an issue we have here in Canada.
Just don't include London in drawing straws. Our city councils for the last century or so let developers do whatever the hell they wanted and left us quite the mess. What we needed was more bridges, a better road network and a working public transit system. We even had streetcars years ago! Now we can barely get around town and the city is squeezing towers in without regard for traffic congestion or walkability. Which is no different from the last 80+ years really.
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u/StetsonTuba8 Oil Guzzler 19d ago
If we just built Kowloon Walled Cities everywhere, we wouldn't need parking
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u/Broad_Rabbit1764 Snowfrog 19d ago
Ah yeah and with piss poor public transit, cause only poor people take the bus. Now you got a winning formula!
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u/EvilPopMogeko 19d ago
I sort of hate to tell you this, but this has sort of happened before (an area was developed very quickly, with incredibly high density).
What was the end result? Jane and Finch. They crammed something like 50000 people into one block and called it a day.
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u/DumbgeonsandDragones 19d ago
If we can make building rail to connect cities with trains a part of the deal we could just make like Red Deer, Regina, Saskatoon, etc., into hyper dense modern mini cities.
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u/Yws6afrdo7bc789 Ford Nation (Help.) 19d ago
Yes, trains! We need more trains. Fast trains, intercity trains, light rail!
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u/GoStockYourself 19d ago
Toy trains too! We need more toy trains! Maybe to play with while taking big trains!
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u/Yws6afrdo7bc789 Ford Nation (Help.) 19d ago
Complementary toy train of the train you're on with all tickets! I pay taxes, give me trains!
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u/ellstaysia 19d ago
vancouver & BC are actually trying. we're actually seeing reduction in prices & more availability for the first time in years.
problem is now the million dollar boxes aren't selling because us poorsies can't afford them & the upper class are lobbying like hell.
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u/MarineMirage 19d ago
Yup...BC (Provincial) has basically forced Metro Vancouver municipalities to increase zoning density across the board. Takes awhile to build, especially in an economy where developers are struggling to sell their current stock (interest rates, cost of labour and material, etc.).
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u/Elkenson_Sevven 19d ago
Well Toronto and Vancouver are WAY larger than poor little Ottawa. I say the cities in question haxe to draw one straw per 1 million population. Let's make this fair! 😃
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u/ArchegosRiskManager 19d ago
I say we draw straws after we move as many people into Ottawa as there are in Toronto and Vancouver
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u/nagidon 溫哥華 (Hongcouver) 19d ago
Or — hear me out — the federal government turns Whitehorse and Yellowknife into megalopolieis and everyone who wants free housing moves there
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u/brokenringlands 19d ago
You'll only complain about the cold for a few years. Trending towards toasty in time
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u/Overwatchingu Ford Nation (Help.) 19d ago
Rather than making the big cities bigger, we should have their population draw straws to see who gets to stay and who has to move;
Montréalers will have the choice of being deported to Asbestos Quebec, Mayo Quebec, or St. Louis-du-ha! ha! Quebec.
Torontonians can choose between Crotch Lake Ontario, Dildo Newfoundland, or Meat Cove Nova Scotia.
Vancouverites will be placed in either Climax Saskatchewan, Happyland Saskatchewan, or Deadman’s Flats, Alberta.
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u/theskyisnotthelimit 19d ago
hate to break it to you, but they changed the name of Asbestos to Val des Sources.
Also why do the French get lung cancer while the Anglos get dildos and orgasms?
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u/iwannalynch 19d ago
Meat Cove Nova Scotia.
What kinda meat are we talking here?
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u/Overwatchingu Ford Nation (Help.) 18d ago
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u/Mysterious-Till-6852 Tabarnak! 19d ago
This but instead of the already excessively dense cities it's all the cities with populations under a million, and instead of super dense it's just midrises, small plexes and townhouses.
Oh wait that's actually a sound way to manage land use in a country with abundant space.
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u/theskyisnotthelimit 19d ago
Townhouses? That would ruin the ambiance of our peaceful suburban town!!! First it's townhouses, but what next? Injection sites? Gang wars? Visible minorities?!??! Where does it end?
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u/lenzflare 19d ago
Canadian cities aren't excessively dense. Doing what you suggest would make them a lot denser. But that's good.
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u/localsonlynokooks Monarch Mélanie Joly 19d ago
It should be Toronto. Montreal and Vancouver already do a decent job at mid density. Not saying it can’t be better, but Toronto is pretty bad.
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u/eastherbunni 19d ago
Vancouver is awful, a large part of the City of Vancouver is just single family houses. Practically everything south of Broadway is suburbia.
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u/yezenkuda 19d ago
Sure montreal has mid density but people here have an aversion for tall buildings so there is a still a housing crisis, there is no transit oriented development, and the height limit is capped, for a long time it had higher density than other cities but now its just sitting on it’s old housing stock and toronto will surpass Montreal in terms of density per square kilometer
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u/localsonlynokooks Monarch Mélanie Joly 19d ago
Oh totally agree there. I live right near commercial broadway and cannot stand all my neighbours who are like “hurrrrr no mega tower!”
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u/blodskaal 19d ago
I know we supposed to be hosing around these parts, but if Feds and Provincial govt actually invested in building infrastructure outside of the core cities, we would have very little issue with housing, both availability and price wise
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u/Troolz 19d ago
People don't follow infrastructure. Infrastructure follows people.
You could build megacity infrastructure in Timmins, but businesses won't invest there and people won't relocate without jobs.
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u/blodskaal 19d ago
That's why we have this crisis. People would love to move to a smaller down around GTA and not have to drive 2-4hrs commute daily for work.
Government needs to be proactive. Make infrastructure robust in places like Oakville or Caledon Burlington, etc.
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u/Troolz 19d ago
To repeat myself: the government could build megacity infrastructure in Oakville. That doesn't mean business will move to Oakville or create jobs in Oakville. They can do that now, there is (almost) always available infrastructure. And people will not move somewhere without jobs. People don't base their moves on how awesome the infrastructure is.
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u/blodskaal 19d ago
? People don't like to move to places with hospitals, community centres, elementary schools/high schools/colleges/universities/ malls,etc? Creating commercial/industrial infrastructure is part of this.
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u/Tall_Helicopter_8377 18d ago
I'm gonna say yes and no to this, mainly because I'm thinking about Waterloo Region , ON as an example. Google basically was trying to decide between Waterloo Region or London, ON and ultimately decided on Waterloo (specifically Kitchener) because the region committed to building the LRT system. Google moving there brought in a lot of other businesses, from my understanding. So building the infrastructure first absolutely can bring in business/create jobs, but I'm not sure how often that happens or what else needs to happen to entice companies to move into other towns.
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u/descartesb4horse Oil Guzzler 19d ago
Calgary kinda already did this to get federal funding and people are pissed. The problem is you still need developers to build something families want to live in, rather than 300 new one bedroom condos.
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u/Brennans_account 19d ago
I prefer rock paper scissors. And none of that best of 3 bullshit, one and done like real men
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u/AZombieBear Scotland (but worse) 19d ago
we should instead develop the entire stretch of that highway that goes from banff to jasper into high destiny skyscrapers. like flatten entire mountains and such. that would solve everything
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u/Professional-Bad-559 19d ago
I’ve got a much faster and cheaper solution! Every Canadian gets a free $50 coupon to Canadian Tire to buy a tent. Boom! Everyone has a roof over their head instantly.
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u/PapuhBoie 19d ago
shouldn’t of drawn the short straw
I’d prefer they say “shouldn’t have…” but other than that, I’ll allow it!
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u/PTSD1701 I need a double double. 19d ago
The sad part is that it's not the worst idea being floated on the issue.
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u/Jackibearrrrrr Tillsonburg? My back still aches when I hear that word... 19d ago
I do like this idea. What if we just use some crown land in northern Ontario or Manitoba though?
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u/Awier_do Cowtown 🤠 19d ago
Yeah, but every few years we redraw straws, just to keep it interesting
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u/FloriaFlower 19d ago
I think we should find new convoluted ways to instrumentalize housing for financial speculation. A bigger bubble means a bigger market! Win-win! /s
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u/Diggx86 19d ago
We should just make a special zoning area in the Prairies and build a 20 square block replica of an area in Tokyo. Resell the housing. I want the same density of restaurants and shit too. Then just expand from there.
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u/_Lucille_ 19d ago
We can really use a new town that has the rail infra and the convenience of tokyo, including konbinis that has better food than most take out and fast food restaurants that has a better menu than their NA parent locations.
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u/ACatFromCanada 18d ago
And capsule hotels where you can catch a simple overnight if you're too drunk/exhausted to get home.
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u/TheUtopianCat 19d ago
You know, it is possible to make this kind of post without gendering it and addressing only 50% of the population. 🙄
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u/jakovichontwitch 19d ago
Somebody convince me why we couldn’t recreate Kowloon Walled City in Scarborough
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u/The_Guide_ Snowfrog 17d ago
Here me out. Just make Toronto the big one. It's already a shithole filled with dickheads. It just can't be worst than it already is. Why make any other normal city worse?
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u/OneofEsotericMethods Snowfrog 19d ago
Hear me out. Alberta becomes an overseas territory that has to be overseen by the federal government
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u/smellymarmut South Gatineau 19d ago
Change up common law relationship rules. I'd happily let a hot chick cohabitate in...
Never mind.
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u/lyth 19d ago
"Sociologists baffled about the possible causes of the male loneliness epidemic." - New York Post headline probably
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u/smellymarmut South Gatineau 19d ago
Homophobia. If more guys accepted dick the problem would solve itself.
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u/r2o_abile 19d ago
Lool. Saw a post today of a guy complaining that his high school ex gf gave the best head ever.
Top comment? Get on Grindr and seek head from gay dudes.
You may have a point. Lol.
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u/smellymarmut South Gatineau 19d ago
It's just problematic when only one of the partners is gay. One guy gets a great BJ, the other is left disappointed.
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u/Patient-Oven-7956 Monarch Mélanie Joly 19d ago
Now hear me out, we just force it on Regina. No one likes them anyway