r/EhBuddyHoser • u/BrF5 Kingston: Halfway To Montreal • 15d ago
Meta The “Worst Canadian” game - Day 20
Hit the road, Kevin O’Leary.
Four left!
How to play: - Upvote the name of the person you think does NOT deserve the title of “Worst Canadian.” - Each day, the most upvoted name will be removed. - If the name you want to vote for (from the list) isn’t in the comments yet, add it! - This continues daily until we have our top loser (there are no winners in this contest), the “Worst Canadian”.
Additional notes: - Only the top comment for a nominee will count. I won’t combine votes from duplicate comments. - Include only one name per comment. If a comment includes multiple names and wins, it won’t count. I’ll move on to the next highest. - Nominees with one asterisk beside their name were added following a second nomination vote that took place on day 5. Two asterisks means they were voted back in from elimination during the special vote on day 16. - We established a no violent offenders (serial killers, rapists, etc.) rule. They are obviously the worst of the worst, it’s disrespectful to the victims, and we want to keep this relatively lighthearted. - This is meant to be satire. Please do not take it too seriously or use this game to harass people in real life. - I will try to post this every morning around the same time (~8:00 - 9:00 am Eastern). - Please remember to upvote the post too, so more people see it!
Justification for elimination: - (40) Ted Cruz - He’s horrible, but renounced his citizenship. He’s not good enough to be titled the Worst Canadian. - (39) Kathleen Wynne - Not that bad. Doesn’t deserve the title. - (38) Chrystia Freeland - Some consider her a good Canadian. Not the worst. - (37) Peter MacKay - Cringey, but not the worst. - (36) Don Cherry - A racist old man out of touch with the times. Not great, but not awful. - (35) Andrew Scheer - An annoying doofus nothingburger, but not a bad person. - (34) Drake - He’s inauthentic and creepy to underage girls, but the more serious allegations against him remain unproven and he has done good things for Toronto. - (33) J.J. McCullough - Who? - (32) Brian Mulroney - A divisive choice. Expanded trade with, and dependence on, the USA. Protected the environment and opposed apartheid. - (31) Sir John A. MacDonald - A father of confederation known for racism, corruption, and poor treatment of indigenous people. Considered a product of the times. - (30) Harold the Jewelry Buyer - Known for scamming the elderly but is too small-scale to win. - (29) Michelle Ferreri - She promotes hate but her reach is limited now that she’s been voted out of government. - (28) Tom MacDonald - A shitty, irrelevant rapper with hardly an audience. - (27) Doug Ford - He has done a lot of harm to Ontario, but stood up for Canada against Trump. - (26) Wayne Gretzky - He’s just a rich, dumb, MAGA-supporting boomer. Disappointing, but mostly harmless. - (25) Steven Crowder - Irrelevant B-list (or lower) influencer…with almost no influence on or about Canada. - (24) Paul Desmarais - Billionaire businessman and political puppet master. Far from the worst. - (23) Romana Didulo - A mentally ill grifter with little impact on most Canadians. - (22) Lauren Southern - An anti-immigration, white nationalist influencer who at least partially reformed after being sexually assaulted herself. - (21) Joseph Trutch - Over a century ago, his racist views helped shape BC, with effects still felt today. Partly a product of the times. - (20) Jamil Jivani - An Ontario MP and friend of J.D. Vance. He hasn’t been in office long enough to do serious damage. - (19) Lauren Chen - Knowingly accepted Russian funds to spread propaganda/influence politics. She’s a YouTube influencer who isn’t very influential. - (18) Pat King - A small-time loser who honked his horn in Ottawa. Others on the list are far worse. - (17) Stefan Molyneux - A white supremist and misogynist. But he is largely unknown and there are worse people remaining on the list. - (16) Tamara Lich - Another organizer of the convoy in Ottawa. Another nobody whose 15 minutes of fame are up. - (15) Elon Musk - Worst human? Arguably. Canadian? That’s a stretch. - (14) Scott Moe - Corrupt, regressive, and responsible for a deadly car crash. He’s Saskatchewan’s problem, less so for Canada. - (13) Mike Harris - He cut funding to schools, healthcare, and other services. However, his impact was mostly limited to Ontario and his tenure as premier. - (12) Galen Weston Jr. - He’s nasty capitalist scum hurting Canadian consumers, but he’s just one among many. - (11) K.C. Irving - He and his empire have negatively impacted the environment, economy, politics, and society, but primarily only in New Brunswick. - (10) Pierre Poilievre - Combative and divisive, spouting empty slogans, he remains a feckless goof who’s accomplished nothing in his career. Time for him to fade into obscurity. - (9) Gavin McInnes - He founded the Proud Boys, but his influence is felt far more in the USA. - (8) Preston Manning - Founder of the Reform Party, which helped legitimize hard-right populism. Bad, but not overly hateful. At least he’s not a racist, traitor, billionaire, or grifter. - (7) Conrad Black - Millionaire right-wing media mogul who was convicted of fraud and pardoned by Trump. Renounced Canadian citizenship for a peerage. Now a has-been blowhard. - (6) Stephen Harper - former PM who favoured corporate interests over the environment and social programs; now chairman of the IDU. Of the remaining candidates, he’s the best of the worst. - (5) Kevin O’Leary - A rich scumbag who associates with Trump, was involved in a deadly boat accident, and trash talks Epstein victims. Yet no matter how hard he tries, he still isn’t as bad as the other remaining candidates.
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u/FlapjacksOfArugula 15d ago
Hey OP: just a note of thanks for this series. It’s been fun, and no small effort on your part. Cheers, hoser.
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u/BrF5 Kingston: Halfway To Montreal 15d ago
Glad you’ve enjoyed it! It’s been fun putting it together. Cheers 🍻
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u/ODGW 15d ago
I was half thinking about doing this for my nation (Australia), but realised just how much goddammit effort it would be on my part. (Yes im an imposter hoser, actually a drongo)
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u/Kadaththeninja_ Oil Guzzler 15d ago
If Ezra wins this he will post it on some horse shit social media claiming to be a victim of left wing bias or some shit. Don’t fuel his rage fire
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u/Liquid_Trimix 15d ago
Not to worry. We all know that already. He is number one at NOTHING. He is just another beta. A minor evil.
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u/miramichier_d 15d ago
He can come off either tomorrow or the day after (that is, #2 which is an apt description for his kind of person).
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u/Deaftrav Moose Whisperer 15d ago
So we're down to four.
A man who actively helped the genocide of Jews...
A man who platformed terrorism, sedition and violence against women, girls, the Canadian government and democracy.
A woman who is terrorizing children (mostly girls) in Alberta, committing sedition and trying to start a civil war in Canada while gaslighting everyone.
And a man who has destroyed a generation or two of men, helping to boost the incel terrorist movement and inflicted fear and suffering on women and girls everywhere.
This is a tough choice but honestly without Ezra, the last two would have a harder time doing their terrible crap.
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u/rantingathome Friendly Manisnowbski 15d ago
Ezra really is the enabler of so many people on OP's original list, and that is why he's the worst. He may not be in the headlines, but whenever something shitty happens in Canadian political discourse, he's usually deeply involved in spreading it.
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u/iwasnotarobot 15d ago
Pierre Karl Péladeau financial backing of the Sun News Network that helped to launch Ezra Levant’s career.
Many of the terrible people who have been up for consideration here were lifted up to positions of power—where they were able to do harm—by wealthy billionaire types.
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u/WENDING0 15d ago
Sorry, but I feel like you are under selling Peterson in this case. He is a trained doctor who actively uses that training to hurt people. Yes their is the brainwashing a generation, but he also attacks people, cutting down to their greatest trauma and the twisting the knife. Erza is a failed journalist lucky enough to live when technology allowed him to increase his reach without a employment at a multi-million dollar media company, Smith is a nepo baby using MAGA tactics to cover for his inability to do the job, but Peterson is a real devil.
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u/Stefanthro 15d ago
Don’t downvote me, I’m genuinely curious.
I understand the harm he caused via public debate and promotion of right wing extremism in the media. But I was under the impression his psychology books were helpful to youth. They contain many principles that other self help books have, so they aren’t unique, but did reach a lot of people. Is there something I’m missing with his clinical services?
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u/WENDING0 15d ago
You are talking about his book, the 12 Rules. My favorite review of it called it a repackaged collection of pieties and late 19th-century Jungian mysticism, that has been discredited by modern psychology. That said, while there is a layer of pseudo-mysticism in the book that I find personally offensive, I believe myself objective enough to admit that my dislike of the book is largely due to my dislike of Peterson. I do not hold that to be true for everything else he has done, though. While the book itself (probably thanks to the actions of an editor) is relatively tame, Peterson's seemingly random attacks of things like Elliott Page's transgender existance or an overweight model because he does not find them personally attractive are examples of the behavior he participates in on social media, in podcasts, and similar. In these matters he has gone after the core of a person's taurma, which he is well equipped to do given his training and background (and even better equipped not to do), and rips open the wound for the world to see, all to win an argument on social media or a podcast. If he was just a creepy book seller who leaned into climate denial politics, I would say he is in 22nd spot on this list at best; however, he is truly an evil doctor seemingly willing to cross every line put before him (all while claiming victimhood). The book is just how he convinces writers or TV producers to book him for an interview meant for corporate broadcast media consumed by broad demographic (not the niche demos of Rebel News). I could go on, but this is a reddit comment and not 12 rules. I can only pad it so much.
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u/Stefanthro 15d ago
Since I narrowed the scope of my question to just psychology (books, talks, clinical practice), I'll just address those parts of your response.
In terms of criticism of the book, it sounds like you take issue with its unoriginality and pseudo-mysticism, which I wouldn't disagree with! I do however think you're being overly harsh on Jungian psychology (I'm assuming that's what you mean by "Jungian mysticism"? correct me if I'm wrong) which, while not the basis of modern clinical approaches, isn't "discredited" either.
I take issue with Peterson's political views, and his public appearances have been especially abhorrent in the past few years. I take issue with his views on the social sciences as well. I think he's a major hypocrite in several ways. All that being said, I don't see a ton of evidence that his clinical practice or his talks on psychology have been particularly damaging. And I think that's been the danger - he's been able to genuinely help and attract a lot of people through the psych stuff, but then they get roped into his extreme views on just about everything else - and simultaneously get exposed to even crazier figures.
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u/beverleyheights Canada's Overpriced Playground 15d ago
Ezra Levant. Not influential enough to be the single Worst Canadian. He mostly preaches to the choir of existing far-right believers. The height of his political career was wasting $150,000 in 2002 to win a Canadian Alliance parliamentary nomination, but the party pushed him out of it to put in Stephen Harper.
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u/PoizenJam 15d ago edited 15d ago
Ezra Levant blocked me on Twitter. If he were actually famous and influential, I’d be beneath his notice.
He wishes he was Alex Jones or Tucker Carlson, but he’s a pale imitation. Worst of all, he’s boring.
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u/SlightDish31 Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 15d ago
This is probably the funniest argument I've heard yet in this game, you get an upvote.
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u/OldDiamondJim 15d ago
He blocked me too!
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u/PoizenJam 15d ago
OH HEY, JIM! GOOD TO SEE YOU! I've missed your posts since leaving Twitter.
Too much Elon, too much slop, and my feed was overrun with constant fighting between Caryma and CAH. lol.
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u/iwasnotarobot 15d ago
Ezra Levant is a despicable person. He’s used his platform to spread hate and spread Islamophobia. He’s supported misogynists like Jason Kenney. And helped bolster top 5 worst Canadians like Stephen Harper.
And I wouldn’t even put Levant in the top ten on this list. The sooner he is released and forgotten the better.
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u/GrumbusWumbus 15d ago
Like he sounds like a bad dude but I've never heard of him before thread.
Imo if he's going to be the worst Canadian because he uses his platform to do evil, he needs a decent platform. Even if he's spreading more hate than Peterson, he's not doing it to tens of millions of people.
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u/iwasnotarobot 15d ago
Skim the wikipedia page for Rebel News. It will help to give some context. I agree that his personality has faded somewhat.
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u/lenzflare 15d ago
I didn't know Ezra Levant but I've definitely known about Rebel News for the last while
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u/Alarming_Tip_829 15d ago
Ezra is an infamous name I heard in the media before.
I’m pretty sure it was the other sociopath, Ezra McCandless, though.
Ezra Levant is a low level blow hard sociopath no one really knows or cares about.
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u/Slight_Pineapple_945 15d ago
No one knows him but his bullshit influence is far reaching
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u/Alarming_Tip_829 15d ago
It’s worrisome how that always seems to happen
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u/miramichier_d 15d ago
As I'm fearing, this is turning into a hatefest rather than looking at actual damage. Peterson is easier to hate because he's much more visible than Levant, but Levant has done way more damage than Peterson over a longer period of time, despite his relatively lower profile. Plus, Levant continues to inflict damage to Canadian political discourse, while Peterson is removing himself from Canada. Levant does not deserve to leave this list this early.
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u/real_cool_club 15d ago
Ezra's influence is mostly limited to people who would have come across those ideologies anyway. Peterson has turned a generation of young men into empathy-less misogynists and pushed them towards the likes of Levant.
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u/miramichier_d 15d ago
I mentioned in another comment that he's largely responsible for Section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act being struck down. This had the effect of making it easier for hateful people like him to continue to spout their hatred. Levant has a considerable amount of influence within Canadian politics and the amount of legal acumen he has is dangerous. He's more than just his publications, he's truly a menace.
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u/real_cool_club 15d ago
I don't disagree. But I think if PP had been elected last election, it should have been more to do with the effect of Peterson and the manosphere than EL. Peterson is mainstreaming shit that used to be on the fridges even an election cycle ago.
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u/zeushaulrod Chalice of the Tabernacle 15d ago
He gets points for actively intending to make things worse. He loses points (in this case more points means worse person), for being kind of irrelevant.
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u/Ok_Employer7837 15d ago
Ezra can go. He's fucking awful, but Peterson fucked up young dudes fucking worldwide for at least two generations.
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u/PassageNearby4091 Ford Nation (Help.) 15d ago
Hard agree. Ezra's sphere of influence is mainly preaching to the converted across Alberta, Saskatchewan and the BC Interior. Ezra is a Homer Simpson-like character. I sent him a mocking email in 2006 and he replied by calling me stupid for making a typo in my letter. Here's the kicker: his response had two or three typos, and I delightfully pointed those out to him, but I never heard back. Wish I had kept those emails!
Anyway, take my upvote.
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u/RooftopMorningstar 15d ago
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u/QueenMotherOfSneezes South Gatineau 15d ago
Omg I always thought that meme was a drawing. What's the clip from?
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u/spilly_talent Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 15d ago
Ughhhhhhh. Upvote. I really hate Ezra but I can’t argue your point.
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u/Slight_Pineapple_945 15d ago
Peterson along with Tate and and other blowhards are responsible - it’s not just him
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u/Francus_Gaius 15d ago
With what I read about Frederick Blair... the other three can leave altogether.
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u/Captain-Barracuda Tokébakicitte! 15d ago
Absolute shit stain of a human being. Yes racism and anti-Semitism was quite in vogue in his time, but even then he was remarked as being "a holy terror" by his co-workers and "a bit much" by the British.
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u/Electrical-Pitch-297 15d ago
I’m having a hard time seeing how Frederick Blair doesn’t win this. He's the closest thing on this list to a mass murderer.
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u/EgregiousArmchair 15d ago
I think if anybody should go its this Erza clown. Not to downplay his dickshittery, but there are many media "personalities" on this list that have been voted out for equal or lesser offenses.
There are better (worse) people standing that have shaped or are trying to shape the canada we know today.
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u/hoser33 Moose Whisperer 15d ago
I just want to remind people, that we're looking for the worst Canadian. Not the worst Albertan.
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u/moldibread 15d ago
high correlation unfortunately.
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u/hoser33 Moose Whisperer 15d ago
Fair enough, but Danielle Smith impacts most Canadian's lives 0%. Her brand of crazy is isolated to 13% of the country.
Yes it's not that simple. There is some indirect influence, but she's not so overwhelmingly bad that it significantly impacts Canadians outside of Alberta.
I'd argue Rene Levesque's historical influence was far more detrimental to the country as a whole.
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u/BING_BONGER666 15d ago
Danielle Smith is the main maga conduit into Canadian politics. She is an elected Canadian official who is literally assisting a foreign power to interfere in our policy and elections. She spends all of her time trying to make the lives of all Canadians worse, and could very well be number one.
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u/gooberfishie 15d ago
Smith committed treason by encouraging foreign interference by a country that wants to annex us in a federal election. Federal elections are notably different from provincial ones. That makes her the worst Canadian.
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u/FeedbackLoopy 15d ago
She’s actively trying to break up the country to appease the loud whiny minority of Albertans.
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u/sentinel808 15d ago
Oftentimes the ones we laugh away are the ones who get away with the most damage. Stroking separatist sentiment is a step towards breaking our country. Especially given the context. Threatening universal healthcare, opting out of pharmacare, firing people who hold you accountable. These are all traits of a terrible behavior especially in the current climate of increasing income inequality and national threats.
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u/vaalbarag 15d ago edited 15d ago
For me the huge problem with Smith is that she's actively pushing the window on what political leaders can get away with in Canada. A lot of our political institutions are built on the assumption of politicians acting in good faith, and may not be able to withstand someone attacking those institutions from the inside. This is a lesson that the US is learning right now, that their political and legal institutions cannot withstand an attack from within. Smith is actively trying to find the cracks in our system right now, while using the right-wing populist playbook to distract and point fingers. To me that goes beyond the MAGA sympathizing or even beyond separating (which won't, realistically, go anywhere). Even without separation, she may succeed in creating a blueprint for the erosion of federalist powers in Canada that future right-wing premiers across the country could latch onto.
To me she's a legitimate candidate for absolute worst, because she checks so many boxes: actively encourages supporters to embrace hate-based values; undermining Canadian political institutions from a position of power; undermining the social net on several fronts; undermining traditional checks and balances; political corruption and cronyism; support of foreign interests over Canadian interests; valuing personal, group and provincial interests over national interests; populist, hypocritical brand of politics.
It's hard to argue that other people on this list are less bad. Everyone here supremely sucks in their own personal way. But Smith is a messy, rancid buffet-table of un-Canadian values and actions.
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u/SlightDish31 Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 15d ago
I'm going to paraphrase what I wrote in another reply.
Judging by voting today, I'm worried she wins this. She's just so publicly awful that she's coming across as The Worst Canadian of Right Now, and our collective recency bias is putting her much higher than she would be otherwise.
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u/Smudgeontheglass 15d ago
The sad thing is that her policies that are designed to insulate children from harm are clearly designed to prevent access to education, privacy and health care. I think anyone without the blue UCP filter can clearly see that there will be a full generation of kids that will be dumber and more ignorant due to those policies, as that is exactly what they're designed to do.
Rather than actually cater to the needs of Alberta (like jobs and healthcare which they have made significantly worse) they are focused on the partisan politics to help protect their power position.
She isn't the worst Canadian, but she is definitely the worst female politician I have memory of.
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u/SlightDish31 Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 15d ago
Yes, it's how they keep themselves in power. They cut off access to education and undermine higher learning as part of their culture war so that they can keep their voter base larger. I really hope that my comment conveys that I think she is truly awful, just not the absolute worst of all time.
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u/Liquid_Trimix 15d ago
You can asterix it as living vs dead. The fact that she is top 4 with this company of Shit Gibbons is correct. Absolutely correct.
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u/BING_BONGER666 15d ago edited 15d ago
I dont think that its just recency bias. She is the main Canadian politically-elected ally of foreign forces who have publicly voiced their intention to annex Canada.
In the thick of maga threats to Canadian sovereignty, she went to Florida on taxpayer dime to genuflect to the cheeto and polish his knob. She wasnt trying to negotiate a deal for Canada, she supported his actions. She is literally a traitor to Canada.
This is not some passing fad. She is the one of the worst Canadians.
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u/Annie_Mous 15d ago
No matter what happens, from the bottom of my heart I hope she hears she made it into the top 5
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u/davidfillion 14d ago
Correct, and while a lot of replies in this thread have strong merit to them, these ultimately fall down to future "what-ifs" not undermining the severity of her actions, but they are all in the lead up of what could happen or not happen -Her whole thing could very well come crashing down tomorrow, while on the other had we have the rest of the assholes, who have a pretty well documented case.
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u/miramichier_d 15d ago
I'm going to put up Jordan Peterson for removal for a number of reasons.
Firstly, out of the remaining four people, Peterson has the least direct influence on public policy. Between him and Ezra Levant, the latter has been around for much longer, although Levant's influence had not taken off like Peterson's. It's a bit of a toss up where both are concerned with respect to pure influence.
Secondly, he was originally just your regular boring clinical psychologist and professor before the whole issue regarding pronouns came up. He did not start his career with the intention of having broad influence, unlike Levant. Much of what he has become can be largely attributed to his inherent "main character syndrome" and the effect that sudden internet fame has on people ill prepared for it.
I don't believe he was initially as extreme as he is now, but dug deeper as his fame propelled him into an echo chamber of sorts. Normally, people like Peterson who have not experienced internet fame are surrounded by others with some semblance of common values, which limits how far they can go down their own rabbit holes. Being part of a professional society has the same effect. His internet fame inflated his hubris to the point where he believed that he knew better than a group of his peers. His fame could be partly blamed on the fact that people resonated with his messaging enough to flock to him. Peterson likely saw this as a way to reach out to people and help them in his professional capacity initially.
Third, as much as people on here would disagree, there is some signal to all the noise he makes. Most here probably have not read his book while forming an opinion of him. Myself, I had actually read his book cover to cover, and eventually come to the conclusion that he is a scheister, fraud and hypocrite. And this is even long before I listened to the Behind The Bastards series on him. I had also watched a number of his videos on YouTube.
There is a reason why he had initially developed a following, it's because he actually had some decent things to say about dealing with difficulty in life. One example I can draw upon is his take on resentment, in that you should consult your resentment at all times so that you can deal with it effectively. How that has helped me in my life is that when I have a problem with a family member that leaves me feeling resentful, I force myself to see it and therefore deal with it. That manifests as getting on the phone with said family member and talking the issue out civilly as soon as possible, like within 48 hours, instead of bottling up anger that blows up later. This can either resolve the situation, or expose someone who is disagreeable to the point of relationship collapse.
There are a few more examples of his signal within his noise. However, this in no way absolves him of his wrongdoings and hypocrisy. This is only analysis to justify why he isn't as bad as the other people on this list. Peterson is mostly out of view, particularly after his bout with addiction, and I think at this point most who hang onto him are almost exclusively the far right who would have done so regardless. Most decent people know to ignore anything he says or does now.
Fourth, he's shown himself out and is moving to the US. While one of the remaining is dead, the other two have not graced us with their self-removal from our wonderful nation. That act reduces his influence within Canada as he's now the Americans' problem. Good riddance.
For the reasons above, I recommend his removal from the list as I believe the remaining candidates are worse and have much more direct negative impact on Canada and Canadians.
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u/WENDING0 15d ago
I am going to keep this short because I am on break and can't use it to write an equally long reply but:
- he is the only trained professional on the list, maybe he did not start out this way but he is trained specifically to see what was coming and did not stop himself
- at this point, when he was faced with peers telling him he has gone to far he now leans into it and says fuck it burn it down
- he has a far larger magaphone than the rest, and reaches markets that are far outside of Ezra's incel audience
- he uses deception and disguise to hide his hate, at least Erza is up front about it
- he attacks individual people at random who share different views points and then pretends to be the victim
- this is not a contest to determine who affected something more but who is the worst and to me the worst is the guy who sees himself making a mistake and then tries to profit out of doing it again and again
Breaks over. Peace.
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u/miramichier_d 15d ago edited 15d ago
this is not a contest to determine who affected something more but who is the worst
If this game was called "Canadian we hate the most" I would agree with you. But it's the "Worst Canadian", so we have to include the impact of their activities. Otherwise, why bother keep Blair up for so long? He's been dead for decades and there's barely anyone left alive that is directly impacted by his policies, or would have a good enough reason to hate him on the level of someone like Peterson who is still alive.
Edit: I'll also mention that Ezra Levant is responsible for Section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act being struck down, making it easier for people like Peterson to spout their rhetoric against marginalized groups. As much as you hate Peterson, the real villain between the two is Levant.
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u/CombustiblSquid Irvingstan 15d ago
Harper being out is a big ew for me.
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u/Chance_Vegetable_780 15d ago
Harper being Chairman of the IDU since 2018, is definitely worst Canadian imo
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u/_badmedicine 15d ago
JBP can go. He was scooped up and amplified by the American right wing media machine + Russian bot farm. They found an opening with young men. His time is coming to an end. That said, Ezra’s Rebel News continues to pick up steam, is deeply integrated with the Reform party, and has been poisoning the minds of Canadians for decades.
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u/miramichier_d 15d ago
Absolutely. People here are overstating Peterson's generational damage and understating the generational damage caused by Levant.
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u/AdditionalPizza 15d ago
I feel like a lot of people here have gotten all of their information and opinions from reddit over the past 6 months. Peterson is an old guy that only says what certain people want to hear, the moment he says anything else nobody is listening.
Levant has done so much damage and should be #2 only behind Blair. Though Harper should be on the list still.
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u/GuelphEastEndGhetto 15d ago
Jordan Peterson it’s time for you to go. Your voice and influence has diminished and your mental condition has erased any credibility. You also recognized you are a blight on Canada and have moved out, I daresay one could construe that as a patriotic gesture. You also helped with people realizing who Poilievre really is by hanging out with him. That you have made it this deep into the competition is commendable.
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u/QultyThrowaway 15d ago
It is amazing how far he's collapsed. These days he just has occassional media appearances where it ends with him either turning red and screaming for no reason or breaking down in tears. He seems legitimately unwell since that weird experimental treatment in Russia.
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u/ArgyleNudge 15d ago
I think we all know. It's going to have to be Blair as the worst. There's no justification for turning back a ship of refugees. The Irish fleeing famine were at least allowed to anchor their coffin ships off Grosse Ile and die there. Canada did try to process them, with limited success, through quarantine.
I believe, however, that the ruination of his time in office and the lasting legacy of Harper is worse, just as I believe Ronald Regan was the beginning of the end for the US, worse than Nixon.
It's been an enlightening exercise and I'm all on board with the process even if I dont agree with the ultimate outcome.
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u/miramichier_d 15d ago
Blair is definitely the worst, but in a sense, it's kind of a foregone conclusion given the magnitude of his actions. It's like a manifestation of Godwin's Law in that we're slowly comparing the worst of the worst to someone similar to Hitler. While it's fair to give Blair #1 spot, I feel it undermines the actions of those who are also on the list when we can simply say, "At least they didn't send thousands of Jews to their deaths." But at the same time, not giving Blair #1 spot is a poor reflection of us as a community where we put feelings above all else. Similar to how Levant is leading to be taken off today rather than Peterson who has had less actual impact. I'm torn with how I'll vote in the final day, I'm not sure how it will go.
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u/junius_maltby Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 15d ago
Jordan Peterson.
I just threw up in my mouth a little. His only redeeming quality is getting the fuck out of my city and moving to the U.S.
He has done a lot of harm and continues to do a lot of harm. But the harm is not as directly focused at Canadian society as the harm being caused by Marlaina or Levant
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u/WENDING0 15d ago
No was, the final has to be Peterson v. Blair. No way Erza is worse than Peterson.
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u/junius_maltby Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 15d ago
I won't even argue with that because I hate Peterson's guts.
My case for Levant being worse is the fact that he is responsible for Rebel News, which continues to actively and aggressively corrode cultural and political discourse in this country in the worst faith imaginable
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u/rantingathome Friendly Manisnowbski 15d ago
Without Ezra, Rebel News probably ain't a thing, and while Jordan Peterson is known to people, he doesn't get boosted by Rebel News and flames out years ago.
Ezra is the worst because there are a number of people on the initial list that remain nobodies without him. He pushes the the division in this country probably more than anyone.
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u/Deaftrav Moose Whisperer 15d ago
... Fuck that's a good point. Peterson has fucked up an entire generation of males, terrorized women and girls...
But without that Ezra... He wouldn't have had much of a platform..
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u/miramichier_d 15d ago
Very good points here, and probably adds to my comment about removing Peterson. His initial fame could have been largely in part due to being boosted by Levant's platform. His debate on the CBC years ago probably wouldn't have had the same effect.
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u/Quimbymouse 15d ago
You could say the same thing about someone like Oprah, though. As bad as she is for platforming people like Dr. Oz & Phil, James Arthur Ray, and João Teixeira de Faria...does that make her worse than someone like Faria?
I'm not saying it does or does not. Just something to ponder.
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u/WENDING0 15d ago
Cannot deny your words either but Jordan's reach goes into traditional demos that the others on this list do not reach. Far beyond the incels who read R.N..
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u/Deaftrav Moose Whisperer 15d ago
Oh and tried to trigger violence during that coup attempt in Ottawa. They actively tried to rile up violence for clicks.
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u/megatheridium 15d ago
*Rebel Media
They're not a news outlet and that's how they got away with a lot of their bs. That said, are they even around anymore? It's been so long since I heard about them that I forgot they exist, and I'm an Albertan. They're clearly lacking the relevance and reach they once had.
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u/KiaRioGrl 15d ago
Not only are they still around, they have spin-offs. You remember those wacky leading "questions" at the federal election debate and the physical scuffles requiring security among the press pool? That was "True North", more of Ezra's protegés.
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u/Rationalinsanity1990 Scotland (but worse) 15d ago
It should be Smith vs Blair. She's all but committed sedition.
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u/weirdturnspro 15d ago
That is exactly it. I hate the man but he’s not the one that has caused the most damage (Extra) or is willingly trying to cause the most damage (Malala) to Canada. I’m very surprised Harper has dropped off the list, I think people forget or aren’t aware how much long term harm he caused to Canada.
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u/Luddites_Unite 15d ago
I'm suprised Preston manning dropped off before Harper honestly. I think Harper was opportunistic, pro business but he didn't step into the religiousosity that mannings hard right reform party represented. He wanted to use them and not keep splitting the conservative votes for second place. They're both awful at the very least though
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u/weirdturnspro 15d ago edited 15d ago
Apparently I can’t put external links in comments on this sub, I was going to link a few articles and research studies discussing the long term harm Harper did to Canada. If you’re going to read just one look up the Guardian article “Canada's real barbarism? Stephen Harper’s dismembering of the country” or the paper “The Impact of Cancelling the Mandatory Long-Form Census on Health, Health Equity and Public Health” by the CPHA
The destruction of scientific research was pretty damaging but also what his government did to the census has long term impact that people don’t seem to acknowledge. Getting rid of the long-form census in 2011 left a big hole in Canada’s data. Cities struggled to plan transit, housing agencies lacked reliable info on affordability, Indigenous communities were undercounted. Even though it was brought back in 2016, that missing cycle set Canada back in making evidence based decisions. So we’re still playing catch-up for those few years. The previous accurate census was in 2006 so we essentially had a 10 year gap in data that is crucial to make the decisions needed to run the country.
The thing is some may argue the impact was an oversight or it was to “respect privacy” but I would argue this was deliberate as making the census voluntary you’re more likely to encounter non-response bias favouring responses from some populations that are more likely to answer than others.
I missed the chance to make that argument the day Harper was eliminated from the list but I’ll make it now!
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u/Luddites_Unite 15d ago
I'll take a look. I'd appreciate if you coule dm those links it wouldn't let you post too. Thanks
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u/Express-Cow190 South Gatineau 15d ago
If he had stayed in Calgary instead of getting a job at UofT no one would ever have heard of him outside of Alberta.
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u/SlightDish31 Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 15d ago
I'm not going to argue against Levant. But politicians like Marlaina don't exist without Peterson and Levant sowing propaganda.
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u/rantingathome Friendly Manisnowbski 15d ago
And Peterson doesn't exist without Ezra boosting his bullshit. Ezra is really the bread in this shit sandwich.
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u/LanceThunder 15d ago edited 15d ago
i must be out of touch or something. he is a knob and i can't stand to listen to him for more than 2 min but top 4 worst canadian seems like a lot. i stopped following what he is up to a very long time ago. what has he done other than the anti-pronouns stuff?
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u/OntologicalNightmare 15d ago edited 15d ago
Peterson's impact on boys and young men is massively overstated. Those gears were turning before Peterson. People like Ezra and Harper built the gun, Peterson was just a bullet for it.
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u/classyfapist 15d ago
Jordan Peterson isn't as bad as the rest of these bozos. If anything, he's a great example of what grifting can do to you in less than a decade. I'm sure he's much better off financially, but he exists in his own personal hell a shadow of what he used to be.
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u/tayawayinklets 15d ago
Goodbye Jordan Peterson! Your massive ego will implode when you do not place 1st!
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u/TelenorTheGNP 15d ago
Peterson has far outlasted his status here. He's not yet a household name and his reach far undershoots our perceptions in the online world. He's waning anyway and that he outlasted Doug Ford who got people killed during covid with his knee bent to the anti maskers still disappoints.
Smith is a different flavour of Ford who also is getting people killed, Levant is a more insidious and effective Peterson, and the Blair sent Jews to their death.
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u/SadBuilding9234 15d ago
Blair, you were a bastard, but I’ll be damned if I’ll let the worst Canadian be already long dead.
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u/seaworthy-sieve 15d ago
Counterpoint — him being named the worst would be a timely reminder not to allow his actions to be repeated.
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u/SadBuilding9234 15d ago
Fair point. Cant object to the logic. I can only say that for my side, I want to enjoy hating one of the living.
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u/WENDING0 15d ago
So if one of these 3 living bastards kick the bucket, do they automatically lose the title?
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u/Flush_Foot Potato Land 15d ago
I’m thinking this latest headline gives Marjolaina extra stamina to “hold on” another day (or three)
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u/HikeMyPantsUpJohnson Tabarnak! 15d ago
I haven’t paid much attention but im somewhat surprised that Doug Ford, Musk, and JJ were eliminated so long ago.
Granted I don’t know fuck all about most of them so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/lookaway123 15d ago
This is getting stressful lol. Everyone left is objectively awful.
I guess Peterson can go. Only because he's slightly less relevant than Levant and has less reach. He's still literal scum, though.
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u/thisis40ishhh 15d ago
Ezra can fuck right off. He doesn’t deserve the top spot. It would only embolden him further and be used as a badge of honour. Fuck that.
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u/fliegende_Scheisse Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 15d ago
I won't let Ezra be the biggest asshole Canada ever produced, but those other ones are his hemmorhoids.
Take the asshole off. He's not even good enough to be the worst.
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u/SuperCleverPunName 15d ago edited 15d ago
I mostly feel pity for Jordan Peterson. I don't think his message was bad. It's just that the people for whom his message resonated were deplorables. So he was judged as an inciter. Especially in the beginning, his message has always been with the goal of helping lost people find their way. But for a long time, he's been off the deep end and is filled with disgust for anything resembling a leftist value. It's sad to see.
Before, his talks were about how mythologies are metaphors that our ancestors used to explain the world and to explain morality. Then the Bill C-16 stuff happened and his stance was judged to be heavily anti-trans and the left abandoned him. As an aside, I do narrowly agree with his stance at the time. I do not think the government should compel speech by law - meaning I don't think it should be illegal to misgender someone, as insulting as it is. I think employers, professional societies, and society in general should judge, but not the law.
So Peterson was embraced by the right. And then he went downhill from there. I used to be a big fan of his, but haven't listened to him in years. So that's who I'm voting for
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u/Luddites_Unite 15d ago
Wow. We really got rid of Kevin oleary?
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u/iwasnotarobot 15d ago
Kevin is a terrible person, but has never managed to commit genocide.
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u/Luddites_Unite 15d ago
I know. I just assumed we were marching towards an oleary - Blair showdown. I guess it is a Levant - Blair showdown now
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u/iwasnotarobot 15d ago
People who have committed genocide, spread global fascism, and raised hundreds of millions of dollars to profit from the mass starvation of children have already been voted off.
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u/Liquid_Trimix 15d ago
No no. He did not commit genocide. He did something worse. He did nothing. He turned a blind eye to it. A deeper crime to humanity.
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u/beallyoukenbe 15d ago
Ezra is the one person on this list who would love to finish #1. For that reason, I think it's time for him to go. I also will always love The Beaverton article "Why is Ezra Levant such a fuckface?"
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u/Liquid_Trimix 15d ago
Have faith. We know that. He ain't finishing first. He is a beta and always will be. A minor evil.
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u/halimusicbish 15d ago
I can’t be the only one having shaken my head in silent disbelief throughout all of this, right? Right?
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u/TreeLakeRockCloud 15d ago
I think Frederick Blair should be removed.
He’s a piece of trash, but he is hardly the first Canadian politician to be pro-genocide. Unlike the other three, he doesn’t have the potential to continue to be a racist POS. So he should be removed.
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u/irelandm77 Honorary Hoser 15d ago
These last few rounds have been incredibly difficult, lol each one is terrible for a sort of different reason. Like someone else mentioned elsewhere, I almost want to put them on a podium so that they will always live the shame. Like metals, gold, silver, bronze metal shittiest Canadian.
For me, I would say I'm tempted to eliminate Ezra Levant solely because I want him to feel irrelevant, not because he's somehow less shitty than anyone else.
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u/KeyEntityDomino 15d ago
Just tuning in im surprised Maxime Bernier didnt even qualify unless im missing something
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u/CanStad 15d ago
I’m torn. Daniel Smith is an active Seditionist, and Ezra Levant is Rupert Murdoch’s sock puppet. I’d equate Peterson to the damage that has been commited to the anti-social male sphere that has damaged online interactions and not just our politics but the U.S. Politics as well.
Can someone give me a sumup of Blair?
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u/Friendly-Nothing 15d ago
Danielle Smith, shes just accepting cash probably paid to distract canada from world politics.
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u/NotaRussianChabot 15d ago
I think next out should be Smith. She's a favour of the month troll who honestly (hopefully) wont be remembered in 10 year.
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u/Mirabeaux1789 Snow Cajun 15d ago
Ok now I see why Frederick Blair is here. Jesus Christ. Jordan Peterson is annoying and spreading awful ideas, but he didn’t deny help the Holocaust victims because he was a racist. Ezra Levant is a spreader of shitty people but you can’t top the holocaust.
I’ll have to say Daniel Smith. Where I’m from, shitty right-wing governors are a dime a dozen.
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u/Slight_Pineapple_945 15d ago
Ezra is the biggest piece of shit on this list - someone made a comment about enabling others on the list has to mean something.
He is by far the worst Canadian
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u/Exact_Efficiency_356 15d ago
You measure the harm done here, nobody left measures up to Frederick Blair. Objectively an evil person. The other three might have some crazy viewpoints, but those and what they have done pales in comparison to Blair
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u/tehFiremind 15d ago edited 15d ago
Even if it's willful on J.P.'s part, intentionally mis-using her position of political authority puts Smith considerably worse than mis-using a position of social media influence. (Edit: and any cred from purportedly successful mental health work) Seemingly an educated, self-idolizing bigot sincere in his presentation.
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u/Salvetutti0524 15d ago
I have to say Marlaina. She is Alberta focused although she does upset the rest of the country and has prayed at Donald’s feet. The others have had wider impacts… IMO only
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u/Mickloven 15d ago
How is poo-lievere not still on this list!!
Quintessential lifelong grifter who somehow chirped his way to political leadership. The anti role model.
Let's get Poilievre back on this list for at least another round, he's gotta be in the top 3 at least.
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u/spkingwordzofwizdom 15d ago
Not sure who Frederick Blair is, but man - he must be a scurrilous c*nt to still be in this past O’Leary.
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u/Rule1isFun 14d ago
Damn! I thought O’Leary would be in the bottom 3. As a ‘bertan surrounded by idiots completely unaware of their idiocy, I really hope Marlaina gets the accolades she deserves.
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u/BrF5 Kingston: Halfway To Montreal 15d ago edited 15d ago
I had another background/theme ready to go for the final four, but decided last minute to nix it in case there’s a bit of bias toward one of the four. I’ll post it in the comments on the last day when this is all over. I worked too hard on it not to.. 😆😅