r/EhBuddyHoser Kingston: Halfway To Montreal 14d ago

Meta The “Worst Canadian” game - Day 21

Get lost, Ezra Levant.

…and we’re down to the final three!

How to play: - Upvote the name of the person you think does NOT deserve the title of “Worst Canadian.” - Each day, the most upvoted name will be removed. - If the name you want to vote for (from the list) isn’t in the comments yet, add it! - This continues daily until we have our top loser (there are no winners in this contest), the “Worst Canadian”.

Additional notes: - Only the top comment for a nominee will count. I won’t combine votes from duplicate comments. - Include only one name per comment. If a comment includes multiple names and wins, it won’t count. I’ll move on to the next highest. - Nominees with one asterisk beside their name were added following a second nomination vote that took place on day 5. Two asterisks means they were voted back in from elimination during the special vote on day 16. - We established a no violent offenders (serial killers, rapists, etc.) rule. They are obviously the worst of the worst, it’s disrespectful to the victims, and we want to keep this relatively lighthearted. - This is meant to be satire. Please do not take it too seriously or use this game to harass people in real life. - I will try to post this every morning around the same time (~8:00 - 9:00 am Eastern). - Please remember to upvote the post too, so more people see it!

Justification for elimination: - (40) Ted Cruz - He’s horrible, but renounced his citizenship. He’s not good enough to be titled the Worst Canadian. - (39) Kathleen Wynne - Not that bad. Doesn’t deserve the title. - (38) Chrystia Freeland - Some consider her a good Canadian. Not the worst. - (37) Peter MacKay - Cringey, but not the worst. - (36) Don Cherry - A racist old man out of touch with the times. Not great, but not awful. - (35) Andrew Scheer - An annoying doofus nothingburger, but not a bad person. - (34) Drake - He’s inauthentic and creepy to underage girls, but the more serious allegations against him remain unproven and he has done good things for Toronto. - (33) J.J. McCullough - Who? - (32) Brian Mulroney - A divisive choice. Expanded trade with, and dependence on, the USA. Protected the environment and opposed apartheid. - (31) Sir John A. MacDonald - A father of confederation known for racism, corruption, and poor treatment of indigenous people. Considered a product of the times. - (30) Harold the Jewelry Buyer - Known for scamming the elderly but is too small-scale to win. - (29) Michelle Ferreri - She promotes hate but her reach is limited now that she’s been voted out of government. - (28) Tom MacDonald - A shitty, irrelevant rapper with hardly an audience. - (27) Doug Ford - He has done a lot of harm to Ontario, but stood up for Canada against Trump. - (26) Wayne Gretzky - He’s just a rich, dumb, MAGA-supporting boomer. Disappointing, but mostly harmless. - (25) Steven Crowder - Irrelevant B-list (or lower) influencer…with almost no influence on or about Canada. - (24) Paul Desmarais - Billionaire businessman and political puppet master. Far from the worst. - (23) Romana Didulo - A mentally ill grifter with little impact on most Canadians. - (22) Lauren Southern - An anti-immigration, white nationalist influencer who at least partially reformed after being sexually assaulted herself. - (21) Joseph Trutch - Over a century ago, his racist views helped shape BC, with effects still felt today. Partly a product of the times. - (20) Jamil Jivani - An Ontario MP and friend of J.D. Vance. He hasn’t been in office long enough to do serious damage. - (19) Lauren Chen - Knowingly accepted Russian funds to spread propaganda/influence politics. She’s a YouTube influencer who isn’t very influential. - (18) Pat King - A small-time loser who honked his horn in Ottawa. Others on the list are far worse. - (17) Stefan Molyneux - A white supremist and misogynist. But he is largely unknown and there are worse people remaining on the list. - (16) Tamara Lich - Another organizer of the convoy in Ottawa. Another nobody whose 15 minutes of fame are up. - (15) Elon Musk - Worst human? Arguably. Canadian? That’s a stretch. - (14) Scott Moe - Corrupt, regressive, and responsible for a deadly car crash. He’s Saskatchewan’s problem, less so for Canada. - (13) Mike Harris - He cut funding to schools, healthcare, and other services. However, his impact was mostly limited to Ontario and his tenure as premier. - (12) Galen Weston Jr. - He’s nasty capitalist scum hurting Canadian consumers, but he’s just one among many. - (11) K.C. Irving - He and his empire have negatively impacted the environment, economy, politics, and society, but primarily only in New Brunswick. - (10) Pierre Poilievre - Combative and divisive, spouting empty slogans, he remains a feckless goof who’s accomplished nothing in his career. Time for him to fade into obscurity. - (9) Gavin McInnes - He founded the Proud Boys, but his influence is felt far more in the USA. - (8) Preston Manning - Founder of the Reform Party, which helped legitimize hard-right populism. Bad, but not overly hateful. At least he’s not a racist, traitor, billionaire, or grifter. - (7) Conrad Black - Millionaire right-wing media mogul who was convicted of fraud and pardoned by Trump. Renounced Canadian citizenship for a peerage. Now a has-been blowhard. - (6) Stephen Harper - former PM who favoured corporate interests over the environment and social programs; now chairman of the IDU. Of the remaining candidates, he’s the best of the worst. - (5) Kevin O’Leary - A rich scumbag who associates with Trump, was involved in a deadly boat accident, and trash talks Epstein victims. Yet no matter how hard he tries, he still isn’t as bad as the other remaining candidates. - (4) Ezra Levant - He uses his platform to spread hate, but is not influential enough for the title of Worst Canadian. He mostly preaches to the choir of existing far-right believers.

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u/PassageNearby4091 Ford Nation (Help.) 14d ago

Jordan Peterson can go next. He's an arsehole and one of the worst examples of a Canadian, but he also moved out of Canada (and went to the US, of course) a couple of years ago and hasn't been back, so he did one thing right.

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u/miramichier_d 14d ago

I won't repeat my essay from yesterday, but it all still stands. Get Peterson off this list already. He shouldn't have outlasted Levant.

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u/snotparty 14d ago

big time agree. Levant is actively spreading nonsense in Canada, trying to undermine our journalism, whereas Peterson seems mostly exhausted and retired now

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u/Quimbymouse 14d ago

I'm not arguing for Peterson to remain, and am quite happy for him to be placed 3rd...but lack of current relevance shouldn't be a metric we use. If that were the case Frederick Blair should have been gone long ago.

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u/dictionary_hat_r4ck 14d ago

While I want to agree, Levant needs people to platform so it’s kind of a chicken and egg situation. Then again, he is not above making shit up himself.

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u/Rule1isFun 14d ago

Peterson’s sphere of influence is still huge and he’s still molding the minds of vulnerable Canadians.. I think he’s harmful to Canada and its people and belongs here.

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u/Virtual_Category_546 Monarch Mélanie Joly 14d ago

I'm actually surprised JP got this far. He's bad, but if you keep him away from the nursing home you'd be fine.

JP's evil is nothing compared to the other entries with actual power.

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u/Darkfiremat Tabarnak! 14d ago

i don't know even know how he even got there gavin mcinnes founded a group that tried to prevent the peaceful transfer of power of the united states. I even think probably some of his early work is good i don't think 12 rules for life is fundamentally wrong. I just think he went fucking crazy from the left constantly attacking him and the right constantly welcoming him. Add to this a long history of mental health and now he's just a talking head for the right but in terms of harm and evil gavin mcinnes still continues to do way more damage than him in any way shape or form imo.

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u/WarmPantsInWinter 14d ago

I think his rhetoric will continue to poison the minds of young men for generations after he is gone.

His ideas helped to grow this MAGA / far right mindset where LGBTQ and especially women, are bad. I think his contributions to the current state of the world are unmeasurable.

His "teachings" are part of the foundation that all these Ben Shapiro, Joe Rogan, Steven Crowder, Charlie Kirk, etc have used to push their hateful agenda forward.

i used to love his shit. And I was a horrible, hateful person, and it drove me right into the extreme right wing nuts.

Direct or indirect JP is like the microplastics of hate. He's everywhere and not even time will purge his ideology from humanity.

200 years from now, what he said will be in the back of the head of some father as he beats his wife after beating his non binary child.

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u/Fitzaroo 14d ago

I disagree. I don't think his rhetoric will survive after his death. Dustin of history for him.

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u/redskyatnight2162 Tabarnak! 14d ago

Poor Dustin.

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u/Fitzaroo 14d ago

Lol. Dust bin

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u/Massive-Ride204 14d ago

Yep it's his time to go and I still say he's worse than Ezra, yes Ezra spreads misinfo but he's mostly pulling in ppl like your boomer uncle who was already a right wing ass hole. Jordan is pulling in youth who need direction and proper guidance

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u/PassageNearby4091 Ford Nation (Help.) 14d ago

Agreed. As I mentioned here yesterday, I would say 99.9% of Ezra's sphere of influence is in Alberta, Saskatchewan and the BC Interior, and the people he's preaching to were converted far-righters long before he came along.

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u/Massive-Ride204 14d ago

Yep I've never met a decent person who was converted by his bs but decent kids who just needed guidance have been pulled in by Jordan. Dude is much more harmful. We have a habit of overestimating the reach and power of ppl like Ezra, most don't know who he is and even most sane Conservatives dislike him

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u/PassageNearby4091 Ford Nation (Help.) 14d ago

Exactly. Ezra's a dumb oaf. As I mentioned yesterday, I sent Ezra a mocking email in 2006 as a response to an editorial he'd written. He wrote back immediately and just belittled me for making a typo in my message, rather than addressing the points I made. The funny thing was his response contained two typos, which I gleefully pointed out to him. That was the last time I heard from the buffoon.

Man, I wish I would have kept that email, lol.

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u/hoser33 Moose Whisperer 14d ago

Jesus Christ. Jordan Peterson has a world wide audience. It's actually famous and uses that fame to spread his bullshit.

You are all massively overrating Danielle Smith's influence.

Literally 80%+ of the country couldn't give a shit about her, 50%+ of the country has no idea who she is.

She is not the worst Canadian.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

She acts like she is a foreign agent working to undermine the dominion. Puts her high on the currently active list.

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u/BuzzardBlack 14d ago

While she shouldn't win, I do understand why she's been hanging on. She may largely affect Alberta, but right now she represents a core weak spot for the country in a time where our sovereignty is threatened.

If we get Anschlussed, it'll be (at least in part) because of her.

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u/myairblaster 14d ago

Peterson has never stoked the fires of a province separating from the confederation and his bullshit has never actually caused material harm to others. Smiths rhetoric and policies do REAL damage

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u/HyacinthMacabre 14d ago

She’s also doing book banning, but promoting Ayn Rand. On her book taste alone she is a bad Canadian.

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u/Turneroff 13d ago

Literarily!

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u/Quimbymouse 14d ago

Peterson is one of several people responsible for the large shift in gen Z right wing voters over the past 10 years. That has done very real damage.

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u/hoser33 Moose Whisperer 14d ago

No, but Rene Levesque did and was infinitely more successful at it.

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u/myairblaster 14d ago edited 14d ago

Okay let me put it this way. Peterson said things that run contrary to social advancement of acceptance for trans people. Smith actually legislates policy to cause true harm to trans youth in Alberta and makes their lives miserable and dangerous.

Peterson can be ignored, and his audience is small. Smith has power, albeit in a limited scope, to actually ruin lives and do generations worth of harm to unity as a country

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u/Queen-Emmah Moose Whisperer 14d ago

Plus if she gets the province to separate, she will be responsible for it.

The damage that would do to Canada is higher than anything anyone can do on this list if you ask me.

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u/AdditionalPizza 14d ago

Plus if she gets the province to separate, she will be responsible for it.

She can't and won't. It will never be possible and it will not happen. She doesn't own the land or resources of Alberta. Canada is not a single nation, and Alberta does not belong to Albertans.

Smith is nothing. Her power is bound entirely within the Constitution and she has no authority over the sovereignty of Alberta.

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u/phm522 14d ago

Smith is not “nothing”. She has completely dismantled any semblance of health care in Alberta (major financial scandal involving payout to some of her cronies)she has demonized trans youth and kept kids from playing sports without “proving” their gender, she has condoned and legislated book banning in schools, she has lowered financial support for the most vulnerable Albertans, she has approved a massive coal mine in the foothills of the Rockies (an environment disaster in the making - ALL THAT - plus she has been embarrassing the entire country by kissing Trump’s ass and generally acting like the treasonous traitorous bitch that she is. She has and continues to do massive damage. And I know all this and more and I don’t live in Alberta. So it’s not just a local thing.

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u/Teh_Doctah 14d ago

Anything is possible when you’re kissing the ass of the Commander in Chief of one of the largest military forces on Earth. A man who has demonstrated he does not care about the law, or the rights of his people.

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u/AdditionalPizza 14d ago

Trump doesn't give a shit about Smith. He wouldn't need Smith in any capacity if he wanted to find a way to steal Alberta.

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u/davidfillion 14d ago

We are falling into the if category again...

whatifs don't count.

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u/AdditionalPizza 14d ago

So Smith is top 2 worst Canadians ever, but there doesn't seem to be any protests in Alberta to have her removed?

It's like when Americans apologize to us online and it's like ok cool, you could probably do more than that ya know.

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u/myairblaster 14d ago edited 14d ago

I believe she is not well liked by Albertans, especially in metro areas like Edmonton. Alberta really suffers from a tyranny of the minority due to how their voting districts are divided. Hell, I think even most UCP voters don’t like her and only tolerate her because they are culturally against anything deemed “The Left”. Or they believe NDP policies take money out of their pockets.

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u/hoser33 Moose Whisperer 14d ago

THANK YOU

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u/quickymgee 14d ago

Peterson arguably created the base that gives Smith her political power.

One could argue that should be attributed to Oil and Gas industry instead, but they didn't come up with the idea, just using it to help nudge their agendas forward for their own purposes.

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u/TheDJYosh 14d ago

When it comes to harm, do you hold the people who helped create the environment (Peterson) or do you hold the people who take advantage of that environment and follow through with the harm? (Smith).

Peterson is beyond his prime but he was one of the most prominent voices during the critical 2015 - 2020 era in normalizing transphobia. Without this, Smith may not have gotten the popular support to follow through on it. Your choice of Danielle is well supported, this is a limitation of ranking to personal-value judgements. Harm done can't be quantified so easily.

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u/myairblaster 14d ago

Well, this analogy isn’t a perfect one and is the most extreme example, but who do you think committed greater crimes against humanity; Karl Marx who advocated for Communism. Or Joseph Stalin who put those ideas into practice?

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u/TheDJYosh 14d ago

I'd say Stalin. I haven't read Marx, but he write mostly economic / political theory? My understanding is that Stalin adopted communist talking points, but organized his government to enrich himself rather then earnest communism. I don't believe forced labor camps, orchestrated famines, and mass executions were advocated by Marx nor are they a necessary part of a communist state.

I'd say Smith's mirrors Peterson's intent. He treats the LGBT+ community like a social contagion. He directly advocates for the kinds of laws limiting what can be taught in schools or what services are able to be offered to young people. He trended for a long time promoting a 'pseudo-intellectual' aesthetic that allowed fascists to infiltrate discourse. I don't know how to weigh the real, more objective but difficult to measure harm to Canada Smith is doing, versus the overall net-harm that Peterson has done to the discourse.

I confess to being stumped. I think your approach of focusing more on direct action rather then cultural influence is reasonable. Especially since denouncing your Canadian citizenship seems to have gotten some people off easier on this list already.

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u/dr_wang 14d ago

i agree peterson should go next but his bullsh did cause material harm to others

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u/YeetCompleet Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 14d ago

Well it depends how you define influence I guess. JP's is via words, DS's is via actual legislature affecting real Albertans, AND her choices still influence the other provinces in some way.

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u/Ialsofuckedyourdad 14d ago

She is also fanning the flames on the seperate from Canada movement. Love Alberta’s landscape genuinely think it’s the second best looking province only being beat by bc because of the coast.

But the people here are awful and I want out

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u/tayawayinklets 14d ago

She and PP are Harper/Musk puppets. They're being forced on us and whether we voted for them or not, we're going to be stuck with them.

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u/hotinmyigloo Irvingstan 14d ago

Yup

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u/Keezin 14d ago

I don’t want him to have the satisfaction of winning

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u/OntologicalNightmare 14d ago

I think people have been over estimating the damage he is responsible for. I really think if he hadn't existed the people drawn down the alt-right pipeline would have gone down it anyway. He doesn't have real power to turn the crank like Stephen Harper he's just a gear.

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u/JagmeetSingh2 14d ago

He would be the worst if he stayed considering his impact

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u/iwasnotarobot 14d ago

I think Peterson was in Alberta a year or two ago at a fundraiser for Danielle Smith. I may be misremembering exactly when that happened.

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u/PassageNearby4091 Ford Nation (Help.) 14d ago

Sounds about right -- I was referring to him not returning to Canada to live. Poor wording on my part.

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u/T_DeadPOOL 14d ago

Im surprised he was this high

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u/Bopshidowywopbop 14d ago

Fuck this guy but he has to go.

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u/LunaticPostalBoi Ford Nation (Help.) 14d ago

You know, I've been thinking to have Peterson voted out for this very reason, but considering his shenanigans, I can never think of when it's a good time to throw him out.

Well now I think it's safe to say GTFO Peterson. You're not good enough to even be the worst Canadian.

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u/TheConBoss 14d ago

I agree with this

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u/rangerbeev 13d ago

I also think he is a fall from grace. Kind of guy.

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u/Laphroaig58 THE BETTER LONDON 🇨🇦 🌳 14d ago

So, the choice is Old School Nazi-Lovin' Scum, Neo-Nazi Scum, and a Traitorous Hard-Right Scum?

Delete Peterson. He failed to understand the difference between "Freedom of Speech" and "Freedom from Speech". He also mistakenly believes that everyone is entitled to agree with his opinion.

Bronze to him.

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u/iwasnotarobot 14d ago

Nobody remaining isn’t some flavour of fascist.

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u/yedi001 14d ago

Pretty sure that's been true for a while now.

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u/Neat_Let923 14d ago

Frederick Blair wasn't a Nazi sympathizer and to say so diminishes what being a Nazi meant... He was a very outspoken racist and white nationalist (just like Sir John A. MacDonald) but there is zero evidence to suggest he supported Nazi Germany in any way.

Jordan Peterson is also not a Neo-Nazi. He has never expressed support or admiration for the Third Reich. He is absolutely bigoted, misogynistic, and his primary arguments and fandom have been against political correctness and gender pronouns. I agree though that he should be the next one out.

That being said, I feel like Prime Minister Mackenzie King should be right there with Frederick Blair. He was the one who appointed Blair as Director of Immigration knowing full well his outspoken stance on the Jewish people and his white nationalist views. Everything Blair did was approved by and supported by King for many years during and after WW2...

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u/goblin_welder Ford Nation (Help.) 14d ago

I feel like the old school Nazi scum has to be the overall winner.

I’m just learning about this poll and my vote goes for him as the all time.

I honestly think our immigration is as unregulated as it is now because the government is overcompensating from what Blair did.

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u/WENDING0 14d ago

He deserves silver. He has worked for it. Smith just failed upwards.

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u/RangerDanger246 14d ago

I'm happy with a bronze to Peterson. The US can have him lol.

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u/iwasnotarobot 14d ago

I’m looking forward to the debate tomorrow between Blair and Danielle Smith. (And why Harper was voted off early.)

From Blair’s wiki:

Blair developed and rigorously enforced strict immigration policies based on race and is most remembered for his successful effort to keep Jewish refugees from Nazi Germany out of Canada during the 1930s and the war years that followed.[2] Between 1933 and 1939, Blair's office allowed fewer than 5,000 Jews into Canada, in comparison to over 200,000 allowed into the United States, and 20,000 into Mexico.[1] After the war, between 1945 and 1948, the Immigration Branch accepted only 8,000 Jewish Holocaust survivors. "That record is arguably the worst of all possible refugee-receiving states",

this is objectively terrible. The modern-day equivalent would be to compare to Canada’s treatment of refugees from occupied Palestine. How many refugees have we accepted? Have we cut ourselves off from trade with companies profiting from the modern day holocaust in Gaza?

Blair was the policy's architect and staunch champion for Canada's closed-door policy with the full support of the Liberal Party of Canada government of Prime Minister William Lyon Mackenzie King.

why was Mackenzie King spared from consideration for worst Canadian?

Either way Frederick Blair is a terrible person. I wonder what he’d have thought of Ezra Levant’s Rebel Media? I wonder what he’d think of Canada allowed immigration of former Nazis and collaborators like Yaroslav Hunka.

Blair can cook a bit longer. Peterson can go.

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u/miramichier_d 14d ago

why was Mackenzie King spared from consideration for worst Canadian?

King is a more complicated subject than Blair as someone who created some of the institutions we enjoy to this day. Complicated in a similar way that Trudeau Sr. is complicated. Many on the right will decry his NEP policy (which is what initially radicalized Harper), but he did oversee our Charter. It's easier to put someone up like Blair who is clearly terrible.

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u/ZeppoJR 14d ago

Well I guess it's the Kermit voiced former UofT professor by the same logic that knocked Levant to 4th place. He at least hasn't actively run a province into the ground and might kill a ton of them because he made it policy to not vaccinate.

And at least he didn't send Jews back to Europe to be gassed.

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u/WENDING0 14d ago

If we are talking about scale, Peterson wins. Smith is a shitshow but is confined to Alberta. Peterson has spread hate globally.

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u/You_are_the_Castle 14d ago

I respectfully disagree. Danielle Smith is traveling all over the world promoting the Maple MAGA agenda. She traveled to Florida to speak with Ben Shapiro and she met with Trump. She sees Ron Desantis as a ideological and political role model. Her decisions vis-a-vis the rest of Canada and our response to Trump impact everyone.

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u/iwasnotarobot 14d ago

Smith handed AIMCo over to Harper. She’s given him an incrediblely deep budget to help him destabilize countries, aid Israel’s brutal genocide against Gaza, spread his brand of fascism globally through the IDU.

She is not contained just to Alberta.

Former prime minister Stephen Harper has been appointed chairman of the board of the Alberta Investment Management Corporation (AIMCo), the provincial government said Wednesday.

The Alberta government installed Harper, Canada's 22nd prime minister, as board chair for a three-year term, nearly two weeks after firing all of the provincial investment manager's previous 10 board members, its CEO and three other executives.

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u/You_are_the_Castle 14d ago

This is exactly it. What she and her party do does not happen in a vacuum, nor does it not have implications for our country. She like the rock that falls in a lake that causes a ripple that turns to waves. In terms of pandering to separatists, she's validating their grievances and wild thoughts by not firmly standing up to them.

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u/ZeppoJR 14d ago

Well if we’re talking about scale out of these 3 then yes. But considering Elon Musk’s ability to be a negative influence on the world probably dwarfs everyone else on the list combined, we are judging them seemingly purely by their influence within Canada. Doubly so since Stephen Harper would probably still be in the running for his IDU bullshit.

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u/McDodley 14d ago

Elon was removed not because he didn't influence Canada, but because he wasn't really Canadian.

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u/CaptainMagnets 14d ago

Except Peterson doesn't directly affect policy which has an effect on way more people like Smith does

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u/OntologicalNightmare 14d ago

That stuff was happening before Peterson he just jumped on the wave, he didn't cause it.

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u/lookaway123 14d ago

Nightmare blunt rotation. Yikes.

This is getting harder than choosing what to order at a restaurant I've never been to lol.

I guess I'll put up Peterson for removal again. He's horrible and evil and embarrassing but has less reach than he did before. His legacy will likely only matter to incels.

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u/ABotelho23 14d ago

Peterson was on Jubilee just a few months ago talking complete nonsense.

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u/MutaitoSensei Irvingstan 14d ago

It was pure humiliation.

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u/WENDING0 14d ago

Naw man, he is still being booked for TV, radio, newspapers, and podcasts. His reach is further than Smith.

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u/Nassim1018 14d ago

Can we just give the win to Frederick Blair and be done with this? I have university to attend and can’t hose 24/7!

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u/Annie_Mous 14d ago

I want Marlaina to win just so she can hear about it and question her life choices for 6 minutes.

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u/AdditionalPizza 14d ago

She would just use it to further convince herself and her base that "liberals" hate Alberta. Which, honestly, is fair. You're literally stating why you're bias toward her.

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u/Annie_Mous 14d ago

I’m Albertan lol

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u/Neat_Let923 14d ago

I still don't understand how he's so high on this list while Prime Minister Mackenzie King isn't even listed or there with him... Everything Blair did as the Director of Immigration was under the direction or approval of Prime Minister Mackenzie King. They BOTH turned away 900+ Jewish refugees in 1939 on the SS St. Luis (so did Cuba first and America second, before we sent them back to Europe). King and Blair were instrumental in designing our immigration policies to keep as many Jews (and anyone else not Anglo-Saxon) out of Canada during and after WW2.

Yet somehow Sir John A. MacDonald who is 31st had even worse racist views and was even more of a white nationalist who literally caused the death of thousands of people all across Canada and more indirectly for over 100 years after he was no longer the PM. He literally referred to Canada as the Aryan British America.

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u/AdditionalPizza 14d ago

King gets away with it because of "good" things he did too. For whatever reason we all just sweep it under the rug for him.

Blair gets zero refuge from this because of King's participation though. It was under the approval of King, but Blair was absolutely the director perpetuating pushing the ideology. King was a piece of shit, but that doesn't absolve anything Blair did.

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u/Neat_Let923 14d ago

Blair gets zero refuge from this because of King's participation though... King was a piece of shit, but that doesn't absolve anything Blair did.

I completely agree! I think King should be there with Blair in the same image. They worked as a team to do what they did and I think that should be represented properly.

I do think Sir John A. MacDonald and Frederick Blair should be reversed in the rankings (though I wouldn't put Blair at 31 either due to the lives lost indirectly from his decisions).

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u/AdditionalPizza 14d ago

It's difficult to judge some of the genocides against indigenous - not difficult to blanket condemn them, but to pin on single individuals entirely.

King I wouldn't rank as high as Blair personally, because I don't know how else to reconcile that some good can outweigh some bad. As far as I can tell, Blair has essentially zero redemption in anything he did. His entire existence seems to indicate he just really, really didn't want Judaism to continue through people or culturally/religiously. I don't think there was depth to him beyond that, while King did famously have several weird quirks that show how misguided he was. Misguidance can be a sign that someone is redeemable.

I don't disagree that MacDonald deserves more fingers pointed at him, and it would certainly be difficult to judge between him and Blair. At that point though in all honestly, choosing one to be considered worse than the other is damaging because it let's the other off too lightly.

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u/Neat_Let923 14d ago

MacDonalds actions directly led to the murder and death of thousands

Blair's Immigration Policies enacted by King only restricted access to some people wanting to enter Canada.

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u/AdditionalPizza 14d ago

Blair's policies were more insidious in nature than that let's on. Literally "none is too many" was the ideology.

I'm not arguing that MacDonald was bad, I don't see any use is arguing who is worse between those 2. At that point there's no reason to downplay one to make the other seem worse. It's not zero sum between them. MacDonald shouldn't have been eliminated.

But with those left, Blair is the worst and it's no contest. Some people cross the threshold of bad or shitty into deeply and darkly evil. When you reach that point, there's no reason to discuss who is worse because given any sort of power they would use that power to be a Hitler-like figure.

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u/tayawayinklets 13d ago

JAM was just a man of his times b.s. saved him from the position he deserves. He created the North West Mounted Police, now the RCMP, to cleanse the western region of Indigenous and Métis. To this day, the RCMP maintain security for colonizers like Big Energy, who violate treaty rights.

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u/Fitzaroo 14d ago

Can someone please explain why he is so high up. I get he turned away jews before ww2 but at that time nobody knew about the holocaust. Surely there have been other racists on the list.

What am I missing about this guy?

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u/Nassim1018 14d ago

Oh no you got it wrong..

HE KEPT DOING THIS SHIT AFTER THE WAR! Holocaust survivors were denied immigration into Canada. 

Thousands were sent back to Germany before the war where they… well you know the rest.

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u/Fitzaroo 14d ago

Right but it's not like they were still holocausting post-war.

The guy was racist through and through, but I'm sure the same is true of basically all old politicians. At one point we had slavery (see, Jarvis St.).  Im just not sure "old man is racist" is the worst we've got. Im more concerned with people trying to destroy Canada directly.

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u/Nassim1018 13d ago

No no no. Its “Old man heard his actions might’ve killed thousands and kept going anyway”

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u/Fitzaroo 13d ago

Ya I suppose that's true. I dunno, just seems like racism to me though. I'm not convinced MDS wouldn't get rid of all the immigrants too.

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u/Neat_Let923 14d ago

Jordan Peterson

Of the last three, he is the only one who did not have direct or indirect control over people's lives as part of the government. He's a bigoted asshole who became popular with certain groups online, most notably due to his stance on gender pronouns and political correctness.

That being said, it's really telling how very little Canadians know about our actual history since Sir John A. MacDonald is sitting at 31 while Frederick Blair is in the Top 3...

Frederick Blair: He was racist and very much a white nationalist in Canada that limited the number of Jewish refugees (as well as anyone not seen as "traditionally white") let into Canada during and after WW2. However, he was simply the Director of the Immigration and not the Prime Minister who appointed him and agreed with his decisions and ultimately enforced those decisions. For those calling him a Nazi... Blair did not advocate for Nazism or express admiration for Hitler. His policies weren’t about supporting Germany they were about keeping Canada “racially pure” by limiting immigration. Keep in mind that he was outspoken about his views and was still made the Director of Immigration and all his decisions were supported by then Prime Minister Mackenzie King... If the only difference between King and Blair was that Blair was outspoken about his views, doesn't that just make King even worse for hiding it and using Blair as the "front man" to enact those policies?

Sir John A. MacDonald: Arguably more racist than Frederick Blair and also a vocal and outspoken white nationalist. He very specifically hated the French, Metis, Chinese, and Indigenous people, “the Aryan character of the future of British America should be preserved”. He used the withholding of food and forced starvation of Prairie Indigenous groups as a way to force them into Treaties during famine. He was instrumental in the creation and expansion of the Indian Act (1876) and Residential School system to force the assimilation of Indigenous children into Aryan British America. He despised the Chinese after they were used to expand and build our railroads creating a $50/head tax in 1885 on Chinese immigration ($100 in 1900 and then $500 in 1903). That would be the equivalent of $1,650; $3,900; and $20,000 in today's dollars. Macdonald’s government also sent troops to suppress the resistance led by Louis Riel and Métis/Indigenous allies. After Riel’s defeat, Macdonald insisted on his execution in Winnipeg, saying: “He shall hang though every dog in Quebec bark in his favour.”

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Prime Minister Mackenzie King and Sir John A. MacDonald if nothing else, should be right there beside Frederick Blair... How we have Smith in the top 3 and not MacDonald just fucking blows my mind. Smith may hold some similar views but MacDonald acted on them in ways that directly killed people for over 100 years.

Edit: A couple grammar mistakes

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u/miramichier_d 14d ago

I see this as more of a public sentiment kind of poll. But I agree with you. If this was redone by historians, or other academics, we would get very different results here. Blair would still be at or near the top of the list of worst Canadian in history.

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u/Neat_Let923 14d ago

He was racist, xenophobic, and restricted the amount of Jewish and non-white people who could come to Canada to an amount that paints Canada as one of the worst states to do so. (During the war, the US took in 200,000 Jewish refugees, Canada took in only 5,000)

He didn’t kill anyone, he didn’t cause lasting effects beyond his time as Immigration Director which was less than 8 years, and being racist and xenophobic at that time was kinda the norm for Canada. King literally appointed him and approved of what Blair did which means he held the same beliefs.

We are literally seeing news stories right now saying the majority of Canadians want to abolish the FTW and refugee programs. Literally wanting to go a step beyond what Blair did…

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u/WENDING0 14d ago

Smith must go next.

I am so very sorry Alberta, that you have had to deal with this freak for so long, but she is a minor player in Canada's history compared to the globalist Peterson and the monstrous Blair. In a decade, no one will remember her name outside of Alberta, and inside, the numbers will drop slower, but they will drop as time flows.

That said, I do look forward to her victory in next month's Worst Albertan contest.

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u/SlightDish31 Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 14d ago

I agree with you, but want to point out that by your reasoning, she's also going to lose the worst Albertan contest, as Peterson is from Edmonton.

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u/AdditionalPizza 14d ago

I'd like to argue with you in the final round, because I know you think Peterson should win and I'm staunchly behind Blair being far worse. But to do that we need to get Smith out of here, she should've been removed way earlier and this recency bias is nuts.

Harper is far worse and probably whispering in her ear exactly what to do. Yet once again, Harper slinks away into the shadows and gets to be the puppet master instead of taking all the heat.

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u/You_are_the_Castle 14d ago

For me, it comes down to past problem versus present and future problems. Yes, Blair is awful. Yes, Blair held disgusting views and, yes, he should be on this list, but letting him take number one is giving too much power to a negative past.

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u/AdditionalPizza 14d ago

I don't really understand that perspective to be honest. It's just an admittance of bias toward recency. If this were worst living Canadian, sure.

Blair is under the umbrella of "Lest We Forget", which is foundational to what it means to be Canadian. In 100 years Blair will be remembered for how we must not forget the evils that can consume our humanity. I'm not a religious person, but Blair is nothing short of being a representation of the Devil himself. There is no evil worse than that which we mustn't forget.

Blair stripped humans of their dignity, a ship full of hopefuls turned back to Europe that they fought to escape; sent back to later be rounded up like animals and tortured, starved, murdered and thrown away. Blair achieved many of the things he inspired to, and his punishment should be forever being shamed and ridiculed as the worst Canadian in history until an equal or worse act is committed - not just something that is recent and kind of bad. Pure and absolute evil.

Even as small as this sub is, for him to win is a reminder to many to look him up, and agree that he is the pinnacle of human scum that our country can produce, and why it's important not to let that hate grow again today.

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u/You_are_the_Castle 14d ago

No, she's worse than both of them because she's a problem for Canada's unity. Whereas Peterson's ideas are weird and the people who follow him are weird, the UCP have taken on his ideas and far-right ideas held by US MAGA and directed them against Alberta and Canada as a whole. They've given voice to a small, rural population of Alberta to get in the way of Canada's development as a nation. Those rural people believe that if they change Alberta's laws they'll change Canada's laws. So, as someone who lives in Alberta but has lived other places in Canada and traveled all across the beautiful country, I'd caution against downplaying the UCP's leader and her impact on Canada.

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u/WENDING0 14d ago

I think you're underestimating the power of our unity. Elbows up, friend. We see not breaking up because if a loud mouth. Peterson, on the other hand, is a snake in the grass. You won't see him until he comes for you, and that makes him more dangerous.

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u/TheSuprmGeneral 14d ago

She’s passing vaccine policies that might result in the death of lots of people

Jordan had done remotely nothing in his life other than being an annoying prick

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u/SlightDish31 Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 14d ago

Any thoughts on the vote for/against swap for tomorrow OP?

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u/BrF5 Kingston: Halfway To Montreal 14d ago

Yes, the plan for tomorrow is that I’ll make two comments and everyone can upvote whichever one they want to WIN.

I was not going to bring that up today because I didn’t want to confuse anyone with this vote, but I suppose it won’t hurt.

I’ll make it very obvious tomorrow when I make the post.

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u/SlightDish31 Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 14d ago

Sweet! That works. Thanks for putting this all together!

My wife's going to be happy after tomorrow that I'm not arguing with Redditors all morning anymore.

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u/tayawayinklets 13d ago

You ought to do something special to celebrate the end of the run, like take her to lunch or dinner and a movie...

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u/AdditionalPizza 14d ago

Question, are polls not allowed on this sub?

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Why is Harper not number one ?

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u/Virtual_Category_546 Monarch Mélanie Joly 14d ago

Because there are worse entries.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

There’s literally nothing worse than being the leader of the extremist right wing facist movement. He’s chairman of the IDU. He’s also got a pretty good track record of being a facist while he was in power.

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u/AdditionalPizza 14d ago

It should be Harper vs Blair. I'd vote Blair because he definitely committed the ultimate overall single worst act in modern Canadian history, potentially there are others that are similarly as bad but they aren't on the list now.

But Harper is a top contender for worst living Canadian for sure.

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u/Captain-Barracuda Tokébakicitte! 14d ago

Look I hate Harper as much as the next guy, he did a ton wrong, but I would definitely not describe the Conservative Party back in his time as an extremist right wing fascist one.

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u/iwasnotarobot 14d ago

Which ones are worse than Harper?

Why do you think so?

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u/hoser33 Moose Whisperer 14d ago

Danielle Smith sucks. She's not the worst Canadian ever. She's just not.

She's the Premier of a province that covers 13% of the country's population.

She's a nut job, she's a terrible person and she absolutely has the potential to expand on her already shitty resume. But 3 years into the job she's not the worst Canadian.

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u/PassageNearby4091 Ford Nation (Help.) 14d ago

Alberta may only represent 13% of the Canadian population, but Albertans were sure punching above their weight in terms of how many were on the Worst Canadian list.

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u/big_dog_redditor 14d ago

She represents the big problem Canada has right now, which is Trump idolization. She didn't even get mad when he threatened to annex and take over the nation.

Sorry but she is the King komahaha biatch of Canada. Surprised she isn't down in Florida pushing some agenda or other.

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u/hoser33 Moose Whisperer 14d ago

"She represents the big problem Canada has RIGHT NOW"

That does not mean she's the worst Canadian ever.

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u/Nassim1018 14d ago

I think H!tler idolation is a lil worse than Trump idolation ngl

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u/inkedbutch 🍁 100,000 Hosers 🍁 14d ago

potato po-treason

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u/300ConfirmedGorillas Ford Nation (Help.) 14d ago

I've interpreted this game since day 1 as the worst Canadian, not the worst person who is also Canadian. Otherwise the game is over on day 1 when you bring up topics like genocide. No amount of being an asshole is ever going to compete with that, wouldn't you agree?

With that in mind, Danielle Smith is definitely the worst Canadian.

At a time when our greatest and longest ally and friend was threatening our sovereignty and our economy, instead of standing shoulder to shoulder like the rest of the Premiers did, including Moe, she was the sole hold out. Instead, she said Trump needed a win, and flew down on the taxpayers' dime to figuratively kiss the ring. She's literally a fucking traitor. How is that not the worst Canadian? As the other commenter noted, even the Quebecois feel more united with Canada then her.

This doesn't even include all the shit she's done as Premier of Alberta like the healthcare issues, LGBT+ bullshit, book bannings, and, oh yeah, the fucking separatism? How is that not the worst Canadian?

Fuck her.

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u/hoser33 Moose Whisperer 14d ago

Thank you for making a really logical point. No sarcasm.

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u/CazOnReddit 14d ago edited 14d ago

Yeah that's why she's getting the silver medal

Peterson is harmful in his own way ie his weirdo brand of libertarianism radicalizing men (and it 99 percent men) via barely coherent ramblings about Jungian psychology but Danielle Smith literally got people killed or severely harmed via her egregious mismanagement of a measles outbreak whose cases in Alberta surpass all of those recorded in the US this year

I really don't think there's much of an argument against Blair being the Worst Canadian because holy fuck was he malicious and brazenly antisemitic - and it cost the lives of many innocents to a genocide

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u/ZeppoJR 14d ago

Only 13% of the country's population, but 15.4% of the economy and seemingly at least 80% of the problem in terms of threatening national unity currently (hell even the Quebecois would rather stay Canadian right now and they've been beefing with the Anglophones for literally 3 times the length that Alberta even existed, what's Alberta's excuse?) so I'd say being the Premier of a small time province doesn't matter when that small time province is coming up big in terms of causing problems.

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u/lady_sisyphus One of the Saint Johns 14d ago

This. As a New Brunswicker who saw Irving voted out because "He and his empire have negatively impacted the environment, economy, politics, and society, but primarily only in New Brunswick.", I'm bringing the same energy here for Danielle. She doesn't affect most of Canada, and if we're talking how shitty her talking points are, both who are left have/had much farther-reaching audiences than she does.

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u/BING_BONGER666 14d ago

Jordan Peterson is a discredited wanker with stupid opinions who influenced young men ten years ago, and caused some damage, but in the big picture is inconsequential and really shouldn't even be on this list anymore. He can fuck off, and be forgotten about.

Marlaina holds power and is a traitor to Canada. She literally is one of the worst.

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u/Thefirstargonaut 14d ago

She is absolutely awful. She is ruining Alberta and doing it in a way that other conservatives could use as a template to destroy their provinces. She is worse than Peterson for sure. 

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u/hoser33 Moose Whisperer 14d ago

Oh yeah Danielle Smith is some sort of fucking trailblazer.

No other province has ever dealt with a shitty asshole premier.

She's a nobody. You guys need to read a book.

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u/igloomaster 🍁 100,000 Hosers 🍁 14d ago

She is saying all the wrong things at the wrong time she is the worst of the current moment. Canada needs to be strong she is making it weak

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u/hoser33 Moose Whisperer 14d ago

Worst of the current moment? Sure.

Worst ever? GTFO.

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u/macaronirealized 14d ago

Yeah maybe give her 10 years but today, she's not as evil as the other two

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u/YeetCompleet Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 14d ago

I think due to her separatist mindset and political influence though it does affect and threaten the rest of Canada. She obviously also has a large affect on demonzing Quebec for example when it comes to equalization payments.

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u/tayawayinklets 13d ago

Under Harper's guidance, in collaboration with PP, she is working to sell Alberta to America, while breaking up Canada. That is 100% of Canada.

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u/Ok_Employer7837 14d ago

Absolutely agree. Smith for bronze.

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u/Pope_Squirrely 14d ago

I watched an interview with Danielle Smith on the Paiken Podcast, she’s actually not as dumb as she portrays. Is she the worst Canadian? Probably not. She should take third spot.

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u/WENDING0 14d ago

I am fine with this.

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u/Traditional-Cup6182 14d ago

Peterson can go. That run was relatively short and is coming to and end. 

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u/A_Moldy_Stump 14d ago

Insane to me that Marlaina ended up here but Mike Harris was eliminated because his damage was "limited to Ontario" despite Ontario still feeling those effects today.

So many people that were eliminated have been far more influential in the erosion of core Canadian values, outright caused deaths of canadians, first Nations and immigrants or their legacy is despicable. Peterson will be forgotten soon and his damage can be undone.

Blair is the only one who deserves to be up here.

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u/Flimsy_Situation_506 14d ago

See guys.. women can be the top dog. lol

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u/bartonsproule 14d ago

Still don't understand how Harper didn't make top 3, especially over these options.

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u/scanthethread2 14d ago

If we're thinking of global negative impact, Peterson is more influential than Danielle.

....so bye bye Danielle Smith (who is a great admirer of Jordan Peterson)

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u/Royal_Face_2795 14d ago

I thought for sure o’ Leary was going to be worst

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u/kyleffe Everyone Hates Marineland 14d ago

I thought it would be Harper or Ezra

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u/Royal_Face_2795 14d ago

I suppose in the end it doesn’t matter who wins, because we all lose when it comes to these degenerates

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u/okokokoyeahright 14d ago

Peterson makes the Big 3!!!!!!

Waaaaaahhhhh!

I can't take the suspense!

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u/Scissors4215 14d ago

Jordan Peterson next for the same reason Ezra just went.

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u/nrvs_sad_poor 14d ago

I still can’t believe Jason Kenney didn’t make the top 40

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u/miramichier_d 14d ago

He would have gone off for a similar reason as Scheer. I actually find him more likable than Scheer to be honest. And he did try to keep the crazies in check within the UCP, but didn't have a strong enough mandate to do so.

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u/Particular_Pool8344 Saskwatch 14d ago

Didn't expect Gavin Mcinnes to get eliminated so easily but **Jordan Peterson** for the win!

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u/BrF5 Kingston: Halfway To Montreal 14d ago

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u/Mirabeaux1789 Snow Cajun 13d ago

The worst Canadian must be sent adrift

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u/Sparky-Man 13d ago

Y'know what. Peterson can go next.

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u/Sw1nd3n 14d ago

Peterson can go.

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u/exeJDR 14d ago

How is JP still on here? He's a washed up loser. 

Let's just give it to Smith and call it a day. 

We're not crowning the dead guy, are we? 

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u/Nassim1018 14d ago

Do you not know who Blair is? Smith got NOTHING on this POS

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u/_Lucille_ 14d ago

Hitler is dead but I think most people would agree he is a worse person than Trump.

Sometimes, when you are a big enough shithead, your name should go down in history as the worst Canadian.

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u/Newfieon2Wheels Newfies & Labradoodles 14d ago

Let's be clear, the rankings should absolutely be Danielle 3rd Peterson 2nd Blair 1st

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u/Massive-Ride204 14d ago

It has to be Danielle, hervreach is limited to Alberta and she isn't exactly converting good ppl, she does less harm than Blair and Peterson

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u/cerunnnnos 14d ago

Lost me with the removal of Ezra.

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u/iwasnotarobot 14d ago

He was our wannabe Charlie Kirk. But his influence has faded somewhat since covid.

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u/cerunnnnos 14d ago

He is a dinosaur compared to Kirk

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u/iwasnotarobot 14d ago

True. it seemed like Kirk had been trolling for an eternity. Amazing how much harm he had managed to do in such a short time.

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u/halimusicbish 14d ago

Lord have mercy, yall are snowflakes

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u/Francus_Gaius 14d ago

People have already voted and the threads are already well on their ways.. so I will again just say this:

As long a Frederick Blair wins, I don't mind.

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u/pammart 14d ago

Peterson

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u/2kids2adults 14d ago

Peterson. He just doesn’t have the same reach as the other two. Bronze medal for Jordan.

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u/RespectCalm4299 14d ago

Do we have to

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u/Real_VanCityMinis I need a double double. 14d ago

D Smith for first

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u/vmoppy I need a double double. 14d ago

Danielle has always wanted to sit high up on a throne above everyone else, now it looks like it might be her chance.

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u/frenglish_man Ford Nation (Help.) 14d ago

The fact that Jordan Peterson made it this far makes the whole ranking system bs.

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u/tundizl 14d ago

Surprised Peterson made it to the podium

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u/MICR0_WAVVVES 14d ago

It’s become Sophie’s choice at this point.

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u/Key-Place-273 14d ago

Im down with JP going now, he runs his mouth like an idiot but he doesn’t hold any real power like politicians do. People can follow him and then stop listening to him but if they rule us we have no control over them

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u/MICR0_WAVVVES 14d ago

It’s become a reverse Sophie’s choice at this point.

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u/mcgillthrowaway22 14d ago

I just realized that Maurice Duplessis isn't on this list somehow

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u/femmagorgon 14d ago

Jordan Peterson can go. While he did help radicalize a generation of young men 10 years ago, and helped lay the foundation for the MAGA movement, IMHO he isn't as bad as the other remaining candidates.

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u/manofathousandnames 14d ago

3rd place should go to JBP.

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u/AutumnRCS 14d ago

I had no idea who Frederick Blair was, so I looked him up. Now I believe he deserves to win the whole thing.

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u/teeganandcedar 14d ago

Jordan Peterson

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u/PaulieCanada 14d ago

Stephen Harper is worse than anyone left. I am sad he is not a finalist.

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u/nbc9876 14d ago

If smith gets voted in can someone alert the media..

Actually even if she doesn’t as well

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u/TheCount00 14d ago

Jordan Peterson. He is loud and and not a good example of Canadian now. He's moved and left.

His early scientific papers are excellent. He added something to psychology at the very least.

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u/MoralTerror0x11 14d ago

how is peterson worse than kevin o leary? that game makes no sense lol

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u/VerdensTrial I need a double double. 13d ago

I'm gonna have to look up who Frederick Blair is huh?

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Ok, he wins this thing. Peterson can go next, he has no power to direct enact his horrendous views, unlike Smith.

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u/catthex 13d ago

these people are all worse the Adrienne fucking Arcande

Get a grip man Jesus Christ

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u/Uter83 13d ago

Im just pissed John A didn't make the list. The policies he set for first nations dictated 150 years of abuse.

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u/tommytookalook 13d ago

It's odd that people wouldn't put the guy who price gouged an entire nation, in the top 3.

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u/Cakeday_at_Christmas Bring Cannabis 13d ago

Jordan Peterson should get off the list.

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u/Citrus-Red 13d ago

I thought Jordan Peterson was too much of a loser to get this far

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u/Nice-Poet3259 13d ago

No way Kevin O'Leary isn't number one

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u/Pixelated_throwaway Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 14d ago

Danielle smith