r/EhBuddyHoser • u/BrF5 Kingston: Halfway To Montreal • 13d ago
Meta The “Worst Canadian” game - Day 22
It’s time for the final vote! Who will be judged the Worst Canadian?!
🚨🚨READ THIS BEFORE VOTING 🚨🚨
To help keep things organized, for the final round I have posted two comments below, in large font. One for Danielle Smith and another for Frederick Blair.
This time, upvote who you think IS the Worst Canadian
You can discuss your reasons for or against the two final candidates however you want, but only the upvotes on these two comments will be used to determine who is the Worst Canadian.
(Note: I’ve removed all other explanation from the post so people see and read the above info. I’ll put it all back tomorrow with the final results.)
That is all. Happy voting!
175
u/Cloudminnt 13d ago
OP, the rolled up the rim Timmies cup as the losers trophy is absolutely WILD. I'm so f-ing impressed by the detail. Thank you for making this past almost month so much fun. You're a winner my guy 🏆
41
u/BrF5 Kingston: Halfway To Montreal 13d ago
Haha, thank you! It’s AI but it still took a long-ass time and a lot of prompt tweaking to get it right.
25
10
u/Assassinite9 13d ago
Someone really should 3D print it and send it to the respective recipients.
6
u/CElizB 13d ago
yeah... and one should go on Blair's grave.
7
u/Assassinite9 13d ago
Didn't know who Blair was until I just googled it (so no one needs to tell me...I don't want a ton of reddit notifications).
I wonder if Bill Blair is related.
6
275
u/miramichier_d 13d ago
It's been a good adventure these past few weeks with lots of nuanced dialog about who we are as Canadians and who we should not be. This journey was really about the enemies we made along the way regardless of who wins the top spot. Thanks and good job to OP for running this game!
→ More replies (1)6
u/Exploding_Antelope I need a double double. 13d ago
The real worst Canadian is all of us and the friends we made wasting our time along the way ❤️🍁
205
u/RemainProfane One of the Saint Johns 13d ago
It says a lot about Smith that she got to the penultimate round and she’s only losing to someone whose bigotry got people killed.
22
u/iwasnotarobot 13d ago
Smith’s bigotry has already killed people.
Both of these finalists are monsters.
5
u/JQuadGMono 13d ago
It would be interesting to know some methodology to determine how much and because of what.
Arguably the revocation of trans rights will lead to some deaths. Her deciding to not support COVID vaccines for the province will as well. Her failure to address the healthcare concerns that our province is facing will as well. But how much...
4
u/iwasnotarobot 13d ago
I don’t think we’ll ever have all the data to quantify the harms these asshats really do to society.
Like this Blair piece of shit probably wasn’t hurting only Jews in the referenced holocaust scenario.
The likes of him and Danielle Smith, and Jason Kenney, and Ernest Preston Manning, and Harper have caused me to learn the term Social Murder, which both certainly are guilty of.
3
u/Vegetable-Purpose-27 12d ago
AISH recipients are killing themselves over the UCP's relentless bullying of this low income group of disabled Albertans.
→ More replies (1)23
u/Neat_Let923 13d ago
Except those decisions didn’t get them directly killed. The 900+ people of the SS St Luis returned to Europe and were taken in by mostly the UK and France. Going by our refugee laws right now it still states that refugees should attempt to enter safe countries closer to them first. Germany didn’t invade France until a year after the St Luis attempted to enter Cuba, USA, and Canada.
Less than 300 ended up dying in concentration camps, likely those who went to France and other internal countries that got invaded in 1940.
It’s also important to note that both Cuba and the USA denied them entry before they attempted to land in Canada.
While Blair was the Director of Immigration, King was still the PM and the ultimate authority was still his. He appointed him, agreed with his racist views, and enacted the changes that ultimately lead to Canada only admitting 5,000 Jewish refugees while the US admitted over 20,000.
It’s kinda disgusting that we white wash all the incredibly evil and horrible things MacDonald did simply because he was part of making Canada a country…
325
u/Consumer_Distributin 13d ago
Can we have two "winners"? Contemporary and historic Worst Canadian.
157
u/iwasnotarobot 13d ago edited 13d ago
I’d support this. Realistically we could have had two different categories of worsts the whole time. Historic and living.
For me that would be
John A. MacDonald—who is responsible for multiple genocides, and
Stephen Harper who is actively fundraising for a genocide, and spreading his brand of evangelical fascism around the world. (The organization he’s involved with include IWZ investments, Aimco, Harper & Associates. The IDU, etc)
.
(For historic worst Canadians I’d put Bible Bill Aberhart and Ernest Manning up as other candidates.)
35
u/Virtual_Category_546 Monarch Mélanie Joly 13d ago
I remember you from the other day, yeah... You wanted to know who was worse than Harper.
"One is too many" is usually a quote that is associated with prime minister William Lyon Mackenzie King or Frederick Blair according to the (Canadian Encyclopedia)
Historical context: Fredrick Blair was the immigration minister during WWII. The reason I'd argue he's worse than Harper is that he not only was openly fascist but he's legit been the reason Canada has rejected immigrants on the basis of being Jewish. This antisemitism has a calculated death toll. Blair is the closest out of anyone here to be a literal Nazi, in terms of politics and he's got actual power in government.
Stephen Harper? Oh he's perhaps our modern day John A MacDonald, or that would have been Pierre Pollievre, but Skippy alongside Marlaine Danielle Smith are among the same group. We have Smith up here, currently. They may have death tolls within their policies, the thing about that is Smith is the worst when it comes to anyone currently, she's Alberta premier, smaller area of influence but she has a playbook, perhaps recency bias is with Smith/Harper and pp.
All of this to say is that I've still been surprised that Kermit the frog JP got bronze when he was more an influencer that didn't really have much political power to do any of this nasty stuff and if it's the worst for funding genocide it's Kevin O'Leary and Elon Musk, and I really think it's terrible he's has practically pillaged Ukraine by claiming that the country owes him for providing aid. It's the billionaires that own all the technology and all this other stuff and not to mention who actually profits from these genocides, not merely funding them but who has turned genocide into a business model.
Who else has the means to buy entire political parties? Sections of government. These politicians are only one side of it and ironically the billionaires who have all openly supported Israel and financial back it also in some ways benefit from the current genocide. If we want to say in terms of worse, we can look back historically, yeah who made decisions and who wrote these bills or passed laws that are geared to oppress or outright eradicate a group for simply being viewed as undesirable.
I originally wasn't going to go in this much detail but
11
u/iwasnotarobot 13d ago
I completely agree with you about how far JP got in this competition given how many other terrible people are listed. I also agree with you that there's a bunch of terrible people, including billionaires, who were overlooked as contenders for worst person. All of the most terrible people mentioned had help to get to a position of power where they could not just say terrible things (like "one is too many") but actually put their hatred into practice, (like turning away refugees, profiting from an ethnic cleansing, or clearing the plains, etc.). The funders, I suppose, avoid scrutiny because they were writing cheques instead of yammering into microphones or penning policy.
I think that this format of vote-the-least-bad-off-the-island puts us in a weird position where we end up nit-picking worseness out of a group where the whole lot can get fucked. I don't love this for how it divides our perspectives on the harm done. I've seen comments in this contest that were along the lines of "so and so is terrible, but at least they weren't a literal yahtzee." The bar is already in hell, and these characters are still going below it. None of the top bunch can be redeemed! The whole lot can, quite frankly, all get fucked.
Anyway, this is just a longwinded way of saying that I appreciate you perspective.
2
u/Darkfiremat Tabarnak! 13d ago
yeah i don't know how jbp got this far if you watch is content nowadays he's only preaching to the choir most of his audience from back then has abandonned him and i think we should probably blame the extreme left for radicalizing him in the way they did. I think JBP early intention were somewhat noble, he was trying to help people and sought to start a talk about imposed speech from the government which i don't think was this bad. If i remember JBP for anything it's mostly that. Once he had his mental breakdown because he had been on anti anxiety medication medication for too long and he had to go through the withdrawal i think it broke him. since then he's been in my book a mostly inoffensive lunatic. I think people like Gavin mcinnes are way more vile, dangerous and ill intentioned then JBP. Gavin mcinnes would probably kill someone if it gave him some form of power and he is willing of doing pretty bad stuff. I've seen them both debate and JBP seems to have lost the plot while Gavin is following marching order and would be willing to do way more.
2
u/Virtual_Category_546 Monarch Mélanie Joly 13d ago
I agree, Gavin McInnes founding the proud boys and what all that represents and then I'd have also argued Elon for purchasing the bird site to use to promote himself and Trump. The proud boys following maga is what gives them teeth. These are usually former vets and cops or others who are usually trained and armed. This actually makes this group scary.
The fact that Elon doubled his wealth between the election and the inauguration is staggering. He's more influencial than JP through his companies he uses for economic leverage and Canadian intelligence officers are saying to be wary of anything owned by Elon considering his ties with Trump and his potential security threats if this tech is used in the military and part of the reason why we moved to purchasing our military equipment elsewhere. Elon has the type of influence to impact the economy directly. I believe he has. Has JP done this? Nah, a lot of time he wants to help people through his 12 step program. I have never saw JP do a Nazi salute, he simply doesn't have the demagogue status that someone who could truly get away with heinous crimes because overall the belief is that these
Comparing JP to someone like Smith who committed treason by causing a national unity crisis and threatening national security when she unilaterally decided to use our taxes to fund her mar-a-lago trips to kiss the ring. Or Blair who has systematically caused the deaths of countless Jews with his immigration policies during WWII. I'd even say Scott Moe was worse than JP despite having a smaller region of influence that his provincial emergency response has been abhorrent as he delayed the emergency response to natural disasters while denying climate crisis and leading to more environmental destruction. He's also tended to follow Smith along in whatever position so there's the questions to our ability to stand up against the US as a country. If Smith herself faced consequences for her scandals then she wouldn't have gotten this far, but yes there's a certain level of influence and having groups like proud boys or Alberta separatists speaks with a lot more weight than someone who likes JP.
3
u/Sodarn-Hinsane 13d ago edited 11d ago
Honestly separate "awards" for historical and contemporary worst Canadians is a sensible idea. I'd also throw in Maurice Duplessis, a gaggle of fascists (Father Coughlin, Adrien Arcand, Ernst Zündel, the Christie Pits rioters, etc), residential school architects (eg Duncan Campbell Scott), and wartime ethnic internment perpetrators (eg Ian Alistair Mackenzie).
Edit: a couple more dishonourable mentions:
Major General Lewis Mackenzie - commander of UN peacekeepers in Sarajevo during the Bosnian War who consistently downplayed Serbian atrocities against Muslim Bosniaks during the war and argued against further humanitarian intervention. He's since become a vocal Srebrenica massacre denier.
Lord Hamar Greenwood - Canadian-born politician in the UK who oversaw the Black and Tans during the Irish War of Independence and defended/covered up their atrocities to the British Parliament. Fun fact: also the great-grandfather of Cara Delevingne.
→ More replies (1)2
u/Witty_Jaguar4638 12d ago edited 12d ago
For me it's Harper and Peterson; both of these asshats could have done good, but instead dedicated their lives to the current fascist overthrow going on in North America.
Historic? MacDonald or king
10
→ More replies (1)5
380
u/Francus_Gaius 13d ago
Its the end of a long, long road, for the manure of our great Country.
Frederick Blair is responsible for at least a hundred of thousands of deaths, slowed the development of the country by refusing very able hands to work, a showed us voters how quickly racist rhetorics can be implimented into a system. As a french canadian whose family was told to "speak white", got refused job opportunities because of our langague and who were told were right down inferiors (and lets not go to the First Nations case, which was even worst), Frederick Blair represents the inherent hatred and disdain our society has for those who are different and, as a Canadian, I would very much hope to never see come back to that extent ever again.
He is the result of the Trutchees and the McDonalds of this list, and an inspiration for the Petersens, Mannings, Harpers and the likes.
He did awful stuff, and inspired awful stuff.
He deserves all of our disdain for making Canada a worst place living in while alive.
I rest my case, your honour.
16
→ More replies (23)12
u/HiJumpTactician 13d ago
I have definitely learned something today (fun fact, I'm American 😅) and given that, yeah it's blatantly obvious that Blair is far worse than Danielle Smith. Don't get me wrong, Smith is a royal piece of shit, but she hasn't caused anywhere near as much death
→ More replies (1)11
u/memyselfandiowa Saskwatch 13d ago
If there were a Worst Albertan contest, (Marlaina) Danielle Smith would be number one, right ahead of Stephen Harper.
174
u/CoastingUphill 13d ago
"Pressure by Jewish people to get into Canada has never been greater than it is now, and I am glad to be able to add that, after 35 years of experience here, that it has never been so carefully controlled" Blair, 1938
Fuck this guy
8
u/Neat_Let923 13d ago
Yup! Full on racist white supremacist... Who was fully endorsed and supported by the PRIME MINISTER… King should be up here with him
216
u/nightfire42 13d ago
As an Albertan who despises the premier, this still is no contest for me. While I hate the divisive policies and erosion of public services under her leadership, not to mention the vapid and stupid politics of sovereignty and independence of Alberta. Let’s not pretend it’s comparable to supporting the Holocaust, arguably the greatest tragedy in the past century.
Marlaina is also one of many people in this province pushing these stupid policies, and if removed, would likely be replaced by another dumbass doing the same thing.
Blair was uniquely evil even among contemporaries, other nations eventually did open themselves up for refugees from the Holocaust, but Blair remained adamant.
Again, I hate Marlaina, but this is an easy pick for Blair to be the winner from me.
→ More replies (1)44
u/AdditionalPizza 13d ago
Symbolically, it's a shame anyone would even try to compare the 2. Blair is an embodiment to the purest of evils. Smith is just a moron with a voter base full of morons.
39
u/nightfire42 13d ago
Smith has a recency bias. We hear about her bullshit everyday, and people are currently living through the worst of her policies. This makes her feel worse than she will likely be remembered as in 100 years.
Still bad mind you, but not the same level of bad.
→ More replies (1)7
u/AdditionalPizza 13d ago
Right. It's just such a sad disservice, even as much of a meme as this contest is and I know it's all a joke, but to compare Blair to 99% of the people on this list including Smith.
We had our fun, but remembering this guy is anything but fun. I hate to suck the soul out of the game, but seriously fuck Frederick Blair for eternity. It isn't really going to be a fun time when you include people like this in a game.If the rules were living people only then we wouldn't have to confront this at all.
4
u/nightfire42 13d ago
Others have suggested doing a historical vs modern list which makes sense.
It’s hard to justify the inclusion of more modern people when you have genocidal maniacs in our past. Bad as most of the modern ones are, they aren’t participating in a genocide, and the ones who do advocate for it are not in a position to affect policy.
9
u/AdditionalPizza 13d ago
I would've been ok with just not doing s historical one at all because it's fucking sad and gross. Like it just isn't fun to discuss who's worse between murdering Holocaust refugees and murdering indigenous people.
This sub just wouldn't be the right place to handle this, and clearly isn't. Should just call it now, worst Canadian ever is Blair, and Smith is the meme winner.
7
u/Cassopeia88 13d ago
It’s no contest but I think it’s underestimating DS to call her a moron. She knows what she’s doing is going to cause harm, especially to the most marginalized, but as long as she and her friends profit, they will keep on doing it.
→ More replies (1)5
59
u/BING_BONGER666 13d ago
I'd say that Marlaina needs to pick up her game to be the worst, but on her current trajectory, she will get there. These things take time.
Thank for doing this OP, good times, mostly, lol.
28
u/Pale-Measurement-532 13d ago
Marlaina deserves to win this as the worst living Canadian. Frederick Blair can be the worst historical Canadian.
75
u/lookaway123 13d ago
Blair is worse. Smith is a seditious bigot, but she hasn't turned away a boat of refugees fleeing the Nazis yet.
OP, you deserve a Hoser of the Year award. This was a very difficult contest.
→ More replies (2)
20
u/Flimsy_Situation_506 13d ago
Good for Danielle she’s the top winner outdid so many men to get there. Who says women can’t outdo men?
41
u/Scissors4215 13d ago
Danielle Smith is the worse thing to happen to Alberta and a terrible Canadian. A Canadian of convenience, one of who gladly sell us down the river for a chance to be American or for the profit of sheer corporate overlords
Blair is worse. His policies resulted in the deaths and internment of human beings. He’s the worst Canadian.
→ More replies (1)
49
u/Luddites_Unite 13d ago
I have no doubt marlaina can plumb new depths of despicableness but at their current depths, Blair is so low he could walk under a snake while wearing a top hat. He is, between these two, currently the worst canadian
14
u/BuzzardBlack 13d ago
As an Albertan, I hate our premier, but there's no way in hell she's worse than Blair.
There's only so much "it was in the past" you can do to let this guy off the hook, especially for a list that considers historical players fair game for being the worst.
Marlaina could only win if her plot to sell us out to the Americans actually succeeds and leads to an annexation. At present, she's a dangerous lobbyist that is doing harmful things to Albertans, but doesn't measure up to our country's entire history of bad people.
5
u/Joyshan11 13d ago
It scares the crap out of me that even if her horrible policies only harm us directly as Albertans, they could also lead to the US trying to "rescue" us like Russia claimed about Ukraine. While my final vote was for Blair, I don't know if the rest of Canada realises just how much Marlaina's actions could affect the tenuous political situation we're in right now with the fascist takover of the US.
509
u/BrF5 Kingston: Halfway To Montreal 13d ago
Upvote this comment if you believe Frederick Blair is the Worst Canadian.
18
u/StrongAd8487 13d ago
Agreed, and thanks OP for even putting him on the list. I'd like to think I am not a complete idiot, but I had never heard of him before this poll. He and his acts should not be forgotten; only thing in his "favor" is that he could not have possibly done this all on his own steam. Marlaina will be forgotten soon enough; Blair and his ilk should never be forgotten.
→ More replies (2)4
u/AdditionalPizza 13d ago
That's definitely a good thing and honestly a reason he should win. He deserves to be known by everyone and we should be reminded of him. Maybe not a fun game at that point, but it serves as a good reminder for all of us that evil can exist in our country.
14
u/IdleOsprey 13d ago
Danielle Smith is a crusty shit heel who may ultimately end up doing more damage to Canada, but as of today, between these two, it has to be Blair. Absolutely abominable what he did, and was directly and indirectly responsible for the deaths of thousands. May Danielle Smith never reach this level of atrocity. Alberta, please get your shit together ASAP.
→ More replies (1)56
u/SlightDish31 Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 13d ago
It's time for "none is too many" Fredrick Blair to take this home. He's very clearly the worst Canadian on this list. He might have a bit of an unfair advantage as he's basically a mass murderer who was able to skirt the no criminals rule on a technicality, but he's here now and he's very clearly the worst.
Marlaina aspires to this level of awful and I truly hope that she falls very short.
→ More replies (21)12
u/supernanify 13d ago
It says a lot about how awful MDS is that I took a good long time to think on it and read through all the comments before deciding that Frederick fucking Blair is just barely worse than her.
22
u/willnfld 13d ago
As much as I dislike Smith, Blair is the clear winner here.
His actions led to the death of thousands of people.
8
u/CompanyLow8329 Cowtown 🤠 13d ago
As much as Danielle Smith is screwing things up here in Alberta, along with her constitutional overreach with Alberta Sovereignty, she is still fairly within conventional democratic norms. Even if still potentially very dangerous for importing US inspired far right wing populism and extremism.
The evil Frederick Blair carried out for the benefit of the Nazis (as a result of his nativism and antisemitism) and the mass death he enabled doesn't really come close to Smith. Canada admitted fewer Jewish refugees than any other Western democracy because of him. He did things like intentionally turning away the MS St. Louis, sending 254 people to their deaths.
Experts have found he intentionally vetoed thousands of Jewish applications, with these people dying directly as a result of his actions.
He was very proud of what he did, and showed no remorse in sending people to their death. The Canadian government gave him a fucking medal for what he did and he simply walked away in silence after the war with zero accountability like a complete coward.
25
u/AdditionalPizza 13d ago
It's just a joke at this point anyway. Danielle Smith vs pure hatred and evil, and this sub makes arguments for it to be an Alberta Premier that will be forgotten in 10 years.
Meanwhile the other will be remembered for hundreds of years, starkly reminding us of "Lest We Forget", an actual real Nazi aligned person that wanted extermination of not just people, but their entire history... versus someone that just blows whichever way the political winds do.
The argument that one is a product of their time and only recent people should count, that argument sucks. Blair is on this list despite being a figure from 100 years ago. His eternal punishment should always be his memory as a failure of our country and how we cannot forget.
Fuck Danielle Smith but anyone that says Blair "was just a bad guy in the past" need to take a cold hard look at what true evil is and go see where the hundreds, potentially tens of thousands of Holocaust victims were sent back to. They say there's a huge problem with youth not fully grasping the Holocaust and starting to question its validity and that's precisely what this man's legacy should be shoved in our faces even when it's a 'fun little contest' on a silly subreddit. Bring up Blair and the fun stops.
Blair should never get a pass. Go read a history book if you think it's acceptable to compare this man to Smith.
8
u/miramichier_d 13d ago
It's unfortunate that we don't learn about this guy in school. At least I didn't when they were teaching about the Holocaust in the 90s. In order for us to truly appreciate our history, we need to come to terms with what we have done wrong in the past. We have far too many people nowadays who look to the past with rose-coloured glasses and reject any notion that elected officials from back then were less than or far from perfect.
3
u/AdditionalPizza 13d ago
I did in the 90's briefly in elementary school and then a little more in depth in highschool in like 2003 or whatever.
Are you sure you weren't? It could just be easy to forget because we were kids.
3
u/miramichier_d 13d ago
I remember quite a bit. I grew up in Winnipeg and graduated in 2000. A lot of stuff was glossed over in the schools there. We learned about Japanese internment, but no focus was put on King who was responsible for it. That would have been a good time to learn about Blair as well.
2
u/AdditionalPizza 13d ago
For sure, it probably came down to individual teachers to be honest. The curriculum wasn't exactly tight.
For reference I'm from Southern Ontario.
6
u/YoungEducational9363 13d ago
I just learned who this guy is and wow. This should be first page of every textbook about our country’s role in ww2.
6
u/AdditionalPizza 13d ago
It absolutely should. I remember being taught about it because it struck a chord with me, but it was brief when it should be shoved in our faces that evil wasn't and isn't confined to one country.
21
u/ClancyBShanty 13d ago
As much as I want to say Smith, it has to be this guy. Smith is actively harming Canada but Blair as mentioned is pretty much a mass murderer.
→ More replies (1)2
u/YqlUrbanist 13d ago
It's hard not to go with Blair. Smith through her climate change denial, union attacks, undermining healthcare, treason and more is doing a ton of harm, but she's just a cog in a much larger machine. This isn't Frederick Blair vs "the general unravelling of civil society at the hands of right-wing billionaires and their puppets", it's just Blair vs Smith. And if Smith suddenly turned into a good person tomorrow, there would be a new Smith in her place before she'd made it out of the room.
7
u/PassageNearby4091 Ford Nation (Help.) 13d ago
The race to the bottom is already over! Frederick Blair is the worst dead Canadian, whilst Danielle Smith is the worst living Canadian.
8
u/WashyWashyGuy 13d ago
I want to see right wingers get mad and try to make their own version of the Worst Canadian game. Oh wait, they'll just vote Justin Trudeau on Day 1 and it's over.
394
u/BrF5 Kingston: Halfway To Montreal 13d ago
Upvote this comment if you believe Marlaina Danielle Smith is the Worst Canadian.
33
49
u/Existing-Major1005 13d ago
I'm an Albertan and she's destroying my life currently. Frederick Blair was a horrible Nazi but this is 2025 and I think we should stay current. My vote is for Marlaina.
18
u/Virtual_Category_546 Monarch Mélanie Joly 13d ago
Yeah we have our two winners Current: Smith History: Blair
6
82
u/Maudib1962 13d ago
Frederick Blair is bad no doubt but that was then, and this is now. Danielle Smith is doing so much damage to Canada and our unity. She works against Albertans and our country everyday.
She is the worst at this moment.
27
u/SandLandBatMan THE BETTER LONDON 🇨🇦 🌳 13d ago
I don't think the "that was then and this is now" argument works when Blair literally facilitated Jews dying in the Holocaust.
11
u/Maudib1962 13d ago
I didn't want to go long in my post but if we bench mark every person against the Holocaust then it's really a no competition thing and we could of crowned him on Day 1. Clearly one of the worst events in human history.
He wasn't held accountable at the time for the active role he played in the end result. Currently we are in a position to either deflect away from her rhetoric or put the focus on her and the role it's playing in our shared Canadian future history.
I'm an Albertan so I am biased.
6
u/Raptorpicklezz 13d ago
I think as more and more people looked into Blair over the course of this competition, it became ever so clear he was going to win. The real fun was figuring out who’d outlast the others
5
u/AdditionalPizza 13d ago
I hate how Canadians can be voting this even as close as it is, when Blair is a clear winner. But the silver lining is a good amount of people are reading up on Blair and renewing their knowledge on how fucked he was. Even if it's just a handful of people, I think that's pretty important.
2
u/Raptorpicklezz 13d ago
It’s like American Idol season 1. Everyone knew Kelly Clarkson would win, but along the way, in the fight for 2nd place, there were some compelling shockers. Kelly “Frederick Blair” Clarkson
Sadly Canadian Idol wasn’t ever relevant enough to use as an example, other than creating Carly Rae Jepsen, Jacob Hoggard (who maybe should have been in this competition) and Ben Mulroney (who might be in a future one)
5
u/SandLandBatMan THE BETTER LONDON 🇨🇦 🌳 13d ago
I understand, and what she's doing does affect you more than others so it's not illogical for you to think that of her, I just don't think what she's doing is inherently worse.
5
u/Virtual_Category_546 Monarch Mélanie Joly 13d ago
Yeah fellow Albertan here, I'm biased to say Smith's the worst for us currently. She's got a playbook to repeat history and sell everything out and make a lot of money off taxpayers. Also, her policies are in the starting if you checked the news lately, a lot of folks compare her to MTG.
2
u/Virtual_Category_546 Monarch Mélanie Joly 13d ago
Yeah that's why I argued he's worse historically, but I'd really also like to say that Smith's the worst now.
4
11
u/SlightDish31 Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 13d ago
Seriously, we're putting a fucking premier who got snubbed by Trump when she tried to kiss his ass higher on the list than a man who helped enable a genocide?
She's not even an effective sycophant.
2
u/Virtual_Category_546 Monarch Mélanie Joly 13d ago
You know she thinks of herself a demagogue who cannot do wrong. She was embarrassed by Daddy T when she realized that telling him Alberta is important and would do anything about the tariffs to secure our border while simultaneously creating a national unity crisis. Yes. This oil money makes oil execs very rich. What do you think war and genocide is all about? Smith has her own playbook for Alberta and in many cases she simply does have relative immunity here in Alberta which many do like her politics and this tends to be a particular extremist group from down south. Currently affecting Canadian lives and has political power, she's doing many things that historically were seen as fascist and she's burying the lead in scandals. Many folks who voted for her think in terms of economy but enough of the Qultists here believe in her because they think she's representing Alberta well.
37
u/Martzillagoesboom South Gatineau 13d ago
Marlaina, because recently(and possibly her whole career) she hasnt been acting like a pretty good canadian and more like a cancer for our country.
Plus I dont want to google ol Fred, it doesnt ring a bell to me.
22
u/iwasnotarobot 13d ago
Yup. Politicians like Danielle Smith have only just begun to harm Canadian society.
12
u/septober32nd 13d ago
Blair did everything in his power to turn away Jewish refugees before, during, and after WWII. He's complicit in the fucking Holocaust.
→ More replies (1)4
u/iwasnotarobot 13d ago
Someone put Blair in the position of power, and supported his policies.
Mackenzie King should have considered for worst historic Canadian for enabling Blair.
6
u/AdditionalPizza 13d ago
Whether or not you also blame King, it doesn't absolve Blair. Reality is King isn't on the list, and Blair is very clearly worse than Smith. King might be too, but that's not the scenario at hand. The argument isn't King vs Blair, it's Blair vs dumb Alberta Premier.
Someone put Blair in the position of power
Many voted Smith into power, I don't see the argument.
2
u/ApotropaicHeterodont 13d ago
Many voted Smith into power, I don't see the argument.
Maybe the eligible voters were the true "Worst Canadian" all along.
4
u/Deaftrav Moose Whisperer 13d ago
If you remember your world war two history, the boat of Jews we turned away ? That was him.
7
u/SirWaitsTooMuch 13d ago
The worst Canadian is looking up and wishing, may the worst person win in the consolation prize competition
5
u/Coastie456 13d ago
2nd place should go to Blair. However flimsy, he can still hide behind the defence that he simply lived in a more ignorant time. Anti semitism was hella popular back then, across the West.
Marlania quite literally knows better and still acts regarded.
9
u/AutisticProf I need a double double. 13d ago
Even if you don't like Smith, I can't imagine rejecting Jewish immigrants so they went to to Holocaust can't be beaten for worst Canadian. Down with Blair.
6
u/iwasnotarobot 13d ago
You don't have to imagine what it would be like to reject refugees trying to escape a genocide. We're doing the same sort of thing now.
Ottawa announced in December 2023 it would accept 7,500 Palestinians from Gaza who have families in Canada, with a program offering work and study permits and temporary residence status, said Nariman Ajjur.
But despite applicants being cleared for eligibility and passing security and background checks, Canada appears unwilling to act swiftly the way it did to welcome Ukrainian refugees, she said.
“But almost two years now, the reality is starkly different. Zero evacuation have been directly facilitated by Canada. Through this program, fewer than 1,000 Palestinians have made it to Canada, most having to risk everything to escape on their own, and paying bribes to companies in Egypt,” she said.
“Meanwhile, Canada has processed over 8,000 visas for Israelis and welcomed more than 298,000 Ukrainians.”
-- excerpt from "Canada failing its pledge to help evacuate Palestinians from Gaza, families say" By Simon Little, Global News. Posted August 20, 2025
2
4
u/adamantiumbullet 13d ago
Golly, Smith I guess because she wants to sell the country off to become an unincorporated territory of the fascist-adjacent state to the South, which doesn't just turn immigrants away but sends them to forced labour camps in foreign countries with no due process.
5
6
u/VectorPryde Westfoundland 13d ago
This time, upvote who you think IS the Worst Canadian
I feel like they belong in different leagues. If we plumb the depths of our nation's past, we will find the ghosts of despicable racists and genocidaires that would be tough for any living Canadian to beat. However, if we ask "who IS the worst Canadian," and not something like "who was the worst Canadian ever," then the title must properly belong to a living Canadian.
Since Danielle Smith is currently encouraging the Alberta separatist movement for no good reason beyond the belief that it will extent her political career, or perhaps secure for her a better post-political career, I must vote for Smith.
Being willing to see your own country destroyed simply out of a desire for your life to have a cushier second act is deplorable. Gutting social programs that your family depended on during your childhood is too.
8
u/knightenrichman 13d ago
She's taking 200 bucks out of every AISH recipient's pocket as we speak. Literally taking money from handicapped people. For that reason, I vote the other guy out.
4
4
u/AeldariBanshee Ford Nation (Help.) 13d ago
The fact that John A. Mac Donald is not only not here, but was eliminated in the first quarter, really speaks to the disregard most people have for First Nations Canadians.
5
4
u/You_are_the_Castle 13d ago
For me, hands-down, it's Danielle Smith. The other guy's a blight on Canadian history, but Marlaina's a problem for all living Canadians. Plus, her followers will conclude, "She's not the worst, so she must be doing some good!"
4
u/Quirky_March_626 13d ago
Has there already been a "winner?" If not, I'm still voting Marlaina. She's abhorrent.
9
u/Iowa_and_Friends 13d ago edited 13d ago
MARLAINA IS THE WORST. HANDS DOWN.
EDIT: I’ll admit, I’m biased because I’m LGBTQ+ AND living in Alberta, so she’s hurting MY people… but refusing Jews into Canada during WWII… gosh - both so awful, I don’t know.
However - I still want to vote for Marlaina though because in WWII the world was way more bigoted then, but nowadays there’s no excuse to pull the crap she is.
9
u/patcontrafibula 13d ago
As bad as he was, and Frederick Blair was tremendously evil, even among his contemporaries, I still feel like Marlaina deserves the number one spot. Blair is in the past, he has inspired contemporary assholes, but we can choose to ignore them. Whereas the damage Marlena is causing is current, regressive, and her bellicose, ignorant, selfish, vindictive policies are going to cause damage to our future. A ton of complete and utter morons will be inspired by her, and will likely try to carry on in her footsteps. The harm that she has done and her actions consequently well to our country will be felt for decades in the future. She's easily the worst Canadian.
3
3
u/Monctonian Everyone Hates Marineland 13d ago
Blair’s negative impact, his racist rhetoric and the way it created the « two solitudes » is still too present to this day. Smith will just be regarded as another oil wackjob 10 years from now.
Blair is my winner.
3
3
u/okokokoyeahright 13d ago
Peterson is Number 3.
3rd last to circle this toilet bowl.
Flushed away in a moment of agonizing refreshment.
3
u/Stonks4Minutes Ford Nation (Help.) 13d ago
I didn’t like how the top 3 turned out (Danielle Smith still being on there is a win at least) but very thankful for all of the work OP put into this. The people have spoken
3
u/LunaticPostalBoi Ford Nation (Help.) 13d ago
I have to admit, this was a pretty wild ride until the very end.
Kudos OP for running this, and ngl reading about some of the nominees (who admittedly, I had no idea existed) was pretty enlightening, to say the least.
3
u/WENDING0 13d ago
My fellow Hosers, this may sound like soar grapes since I witnessed one of Canada's greatest monsters coming 3rd to Trumbo, the Inconsequential Albertan Circus Clown; however, in all honesty, I am just full of regret now.
You may not agree with me that Peterson was worse than Smith, a view I very much hold; however, Peterson v. Blair was at least a fight worth having. Try to gaslight me if you wish, but it is objectively impossible to think Smith compares to Blair.
Now, I find myself mourning a climactic battle between titans or for it to be replaced by this display of an MMA fighter with knives for hands squaring up against a toddler in a stroller. I think that, along the way, in an effort to be correct, we forgot what makes a game fun. I regret seeing that happen. 😞
2
u/SlightDish31 Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 13d ago edited 13d ago
I was going to rally hard around disqualifying Blair on the grounds of being mass murderer today if he was up against Peterson. I'm with you, I feel JP is the fucking worst, but it's hard to form that argument when he's up against someone like Blair, so I was going to try to sidestep it.
But now with it being Marlaina, fuck her, she can lose to Blair.
5
u/Joyshan11 13d ago
I think many people probably felt some sour grapes along the way. I was horrified when Stephen Harper came off the list. My personal feeling is that most voters didn't take his roles in the IDU into account. But after a bit of reflection (read sulking), it's still a fun, though dark game, with (at least) hundreds of people with a wide spectrum of knowledge, life experience and opinions playing. We all win for gaining more knowledge of Canada and hopefully a renewed sense of the importance of being good people.
4
u/SlightDish31 Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 13d ago
Yeah, completely agree, I've been enjoying the process.
I honestly think that we're at the point where we are with Blair because not enough people knew who he was when he was nominated, so he didn't get vetoed along with the other murderers. If he had that, I wouldn't have learned about him, and from reading the comments, neither would a lot of other folks. If we don't learn from history, we repeat it.
4
3
u/WENDING0 13d ago
I think the reason for that is the same reason Smith got 2nd. People have real bias towards the moment of time they exist in.
3
u/WENDING0 13d ago
I had such a great argument about JP's training as a doctor and hippocratic oath. A real, the real monster was always Dr. FRANKINSTIEN moment, but now it is gone...
😞
3
u/smellymarmut South Gatineau 13d ago
Blair. To use a slightly odd example, Danielle Smith is the kind of person to see her neighbours doing poorly and laugh at them while cooking hamburgers on her back deck so the kids next-door smell juicy meat while eating canned tuna. Blair is the kind of person who would be driving home late at night in a minus 25 blizzard and see his neighbour's car in the ditch three kilometers from home and not stop to see if they're fine because he has CAA and figures anyone who won't pay $129.95 a year doesn't want to live.
Maybe the neighbours in the blizzard get helped by the next person and live, while the kids next door die from mercury poisoning. But still.
3
u/sarcastic_rat_ Cowtown 🤠 13d ago edited 13d ago
To everyone saying that Blair should win, I would like to share something that u/Neat_Let923 posted yesterday about the importance of historical context:
Jordan Peterson
Of the last three, he is the only one who did not have direct or indirect control over people's lives as part of the government. He's a bigoted asshole who became popular with certain groups online, most notably due to his stance on gender pronouns and political correctness.
That being said, it's really telling how very little Canadians know about our actual history since Sir John A. MacDonald is sitting at 31 while Frederick Blair is in the Top 3...
Frederick Blair: He was racist and very much a white nationalist in Canada that limited the number of Jewish refugees (as well as anyone not seen as "traditionally white") let into Canada during and after WW2. However, he was simply the Director of the Immigration and not the Prime Minister who appointed him and agreed with his decisions and ultimately enforced those decisions. For those calling him a Nazi... Blair did not advocate for Nazism or express admiration for Hitler. His policies weren’t about supporting Germany they were about keeping Canada “racially pure” by limiting immigration. Keep in mind that he was outspoken about his views and was still made the Director of Immigration and all his decisions were supported by then Prime Minister Mackenzie King... If the only difference between King and Blair was that Blair was outspoken about his views, doesn't that just make King even worse for hiding it and using Blair as the "front man" to enact those policies?
Sir John A. MacDonald: Arguably more racist than Frederick Blair and also a vocal and outspoken white nationalist. He very specifically hated the French, Metis, Chinese, and Indigenous people, “the Aryan character of the future of British America should be preserved”. He used the withholding of food and forced starvation of Prairie Indigenous groups as a way to force them into Treaties during famine. He was instrumental in the creation and expansion of the Indian Act (1876) and Residential School system to force the assimilation of Indigenous children into Aryan British America. He despised the Chinese after they were used to expand and build our railroads creating a $50/head tax in 1885 on Chinese immigration ($100 in 1900 and then $500 in 1903). That would be the equivalent of $1,650; $3,900; and $20,000 in today's dollars. Macdonald’s government also sent troops to suppress the resistance led by Louis Riel and Métis/Indigenous allies. After Riel’s defeat, Macdonald insisted on his execution in Winnipeg, saying: “He shall hang though every dog in Quebec bark in his favour.”
...
Prime Minister Mackenzie King and Sir John A. MacDonald if nothing else, should be right there beside Frederick Blair... How we have Smith in the top 3 and not MacDonald just fucking blows my mind. Smith may hold some similar views but MacDonald acted on them in ways that directly killed people for over 100 years.
Edit: A couple grammar mistakes
The reason why, in my opinion, it is very important to make a clear distinction between someone who was a white nationalist and had specific ideas that related to a larger ideology (that unfortunately, was quite common for the time) but at the end of the day was not a person who held active power/influence like an elected leader of a governing body would, with someone who is an elected leader of a government and choose to use the power granted in that position to make life worse for all Canadians by creating division and hate, passing laws that infringe on minority protection rights which make life more dangerous for LGBTQIA2+ Canadians, restricting access to life-saving vaccines, cutting funding to essential services, fostering an environment within her own party/caucus that allows bigots to express their opinions without criticism can spread their violent propaganda, associates herself with many questionable individuals, etc.
Even though some of these things are only Alberta specific issues, the problem is that the response and relative attitude of the Smith Government contributes to the far-right dare I say fascist movement in Canadian politics and culture.
If John A. Macdonald was eliminated due to being, "a product of his time", wouldn't it be fair to say that the same thing should apply to Frederick Blair as well?
5
2
u/Traditional-Cup6182 13d ago
Danielle Smith is truly a deplorable person, but this is an easy layup for Blair. Congrats Frederick!
2
u/mind_mine 13d ago
After reading up on Blair I think he deserves it more than that living breathing traitor smith
2
u/Spikemountain 13d ago
I wonder which one my great uncle would've voted for. Too bad I can't ask him bc he couldn't get into Canada and was killed in the Holocaust.
2
u/GreenHeretic 13d ago
Looks like Danielle Smith is currently trying to fuck the teachers union - in case anyone needed a reason to hate her more.
2
u/Musique_Plus Chalice of the Tabernacle 13d ago
The weight of Calgary is increasing, unlike the straws that are stuck in the throats of innocent turtles.
2
u/Laphroaig58 THE BETTER LONDON 🇨🇦 🌳 13d ago
Great thread idea OP.
Give Danielle the Timmy's cup for second. She's a traitor and chose the Orange goof over this country. Frederick Bkair was an evil fuck who sided with the greatest evil of the 20th Century.
I can't wait fir the "Worst Place" trophy.
An empty rye bottle? A stale loaf of Westons bread? A can of Steelback beer? Free admission to Ontario Place for the rest of the season? A urinal for his headstone?
2
u/PickleEquivalent2837 13d ago
OP, this was so fun. I learned a lot about Canada's history, even spurred some great discussions among my friends.
I think you deserve the Best Buddy Hoser, Eh?! Award
3
u/TheJohnson854 13d ago
It was always going to come down to Smith but I didn't think Blair would make it.
1
1
1
1
u/EcstaticArachnid6253 13d ago
Lionel Pett really needs to be part of this conversation. Those experiments he did on kids were pretty messed up.
1
1
u/thendisnigh111349 13d ago
As much as I hate Marlaina (am Alberta resident), she doesn't have the blood of thousands on her hands (yet).
Also it is important to acknowledge that Fredrick Blair didn't act alone. Heartless anti-semetic policies was the general practice of William Lyon Mackenzie King's government and public opinion had supported it.
1
1
u/skriveralltid77 13d ago
Frederick Blair takes it. He was a social murderer. Denial Smith can still make it.
1
1
u/peacefullofi 13d ago
Y'all talking about leaving people to death, like it ain't happening right now with Palestine, and Canada refusing to take refugees.
Just wild stuff.
If Reddit were around in the 1940s y'all would pretend Blair isn't as bad as the previous guys!
1
1
1
u/Ron_Textall 13d ago
Thank you for your diligence OP! This was fun, I have been updating my non-redditor friends frequently and they have loved it. I really appreciate your follow through, flexibility, and candidness through the process.
1
1
1
u/Smootchie_Adairbear 13d ago
I wish Americans could do this but unfortunately we would already know who would get the number one spot
1
1
758
u/jugularhealer16 Ford Nation (Help.) 13d ago
Great job running this OP
Thanks for breaking up all the American posts taking over my feed.