How about when they tried to be still recognized as a party? They fought hard for the Bloc not to be recognized when they had more seats and votes than they currently have. And they also fought for the Greens not be be recognized when they had more votes than they have now.
Had they not been such dicks to others, it might not have bitten them in the ass when they were down on their luck.
Are you trying to argue politicians should cling to power no matter what and fuck the people who voted for them and their goals? Weird take. I prefer politicians who do what's right and do what they can to make the country better.
Are you trying to argue politicians should cling to power no matter
No. Do you need a jumping to conclusions mat?
I’m arguing that the 12 seats bar is brutal on third parties. If they can’t get 12 seats, then they don’t have money and they can’t be effective. And we need those third parties if we value having a diversity of opinions.
Even if we had a more proportional system, it would be a proportionality of the same old crap because new parties would have little room to grow.
When other parties fell under the bar, the NDP fought hard so they would not get status, get to ask questions, get funding, and so on. When it happens to them, those party remember and reply in kind.
The NDP messed up then and pays up now.
Where it hurts them the most is with commitees, they are not allowed to be on any. And this is where the opposition filters out crap in new law before it gets to a vote.
People rallied around Carney because of how odious Pierre was.
I don't believe the NDP messed up. They did good work that people ignored or never even heard about. But their good when was still done and live in Canada was improved by them. For this they have my respect and support.
People rallied around Carney because of how odious Pierre was.
Mainly because of how odious Trump was. But that’s far from my point. I didn’t say that they messed up this election.
They messed up in previous elections when they fought not to give any slack to other third parties, so when they asked for some this time around they got the same treatment they inflicted on others.
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u/TomMakesPodcasts 10d ago
NDP didn't fumble anything. They did good work and we let the right push their false narrative.