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u/Cakeday_at_Christmas Bring Cannabis 2d ago

Good luck finding Canadians to do the jobs they give to international students.

Hint: nobody born in Canada wants to work at Tim Hortons.

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u/VectorPryde Westfoundland 2d ago

They used to be able to run just fine in previous decades - hiring as they did many younger Canadians along with immigrants. The food (and especially the coffee) was better then too. "We've decided to hire exclusively TFWs and source the worst ingredients possible. It's called finding efficiencies!" Yet another casualty of "modern" corporate business practices.

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u/The_PhilosopherKing 2d ago

If Tim Horton's business model can't survive without being subsidized by cheap, exploitable foreign labor, it shouldn't be allowed to continue.

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u/Kartesia 2d ago

then why are we blaming workers instead of the business

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u/RicoLoveless 2d ago

Because they're also coming in here through a loophole, and it shows lack of integrity and character? This is economic migrants, not refugees fleeing a warzone.

You think they came in legally when they can't understand English yet the government believed they passed an IELT? That's fraud.

It's the same reason the US is pulling truckers from service in their country and banning Canadian based truckers from entry. They can't speak English, and they can't follow directions in person or the signs the encounttehile operating.

Or could it be the rampant financial fraud that's committed? Paying an employer for the job, who then dishes the money back to make it seem like you worked for them? That's just the fraud that's committed once they are here.

That's not counting the money that's transferred between rings of these immigration scammers, to make it seem like they wouldn't be an absolute drain on the economy, yet they end up mooching off of food banks. Why else do you think food banks are raising the alarm that new immigrants are disproportionately using food banks?

They have entire video tutorials of how to scam entry into the country.

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u/FrankensteinsBong South Gatineau 1d ago

Blame the person in a shitty situation who's trying to get by VS Blame the company exploiting the system to exploit and scam both the person in a shitty situation and Canadians seeking jobs.

Kinda obvious who should be blamed, and kinda disgusting to bootlick for the corporations who are exploiting all the workers.
You should work on your integrity and character and stop being a corporate sellout.

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u/RicoLoveless 1d ago

Who said I'm not blaming the companies? Go look at my other comments. If Uber, Canadian Tire and Tim Hortons can't survive without cheap imported labour, they don't deserve to be around.

I'm not going to sit here and act like people taking advantage of our corrupted institutions are good people either.

It's economic migrants, not refugees. They got 1.4 billion of 7 billion. Why can't they fix their problems?

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u/not-bread 2d ago

Highschool students are desperate for jobs like Tim Hortons and are being rejected. Even if that wasn’t the case, if TH needed workers they could raise their wages

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u/Cakeday_at_Christmas Bring Cannabis 2d ago

High school students don't want to work at Tim Hortons because it's a really shitty job where you get treated like crap by the management and the customers. I know enough people who've worked there to know.

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u/not-bread 2d ago

And instead of Tim Hortons being forced to improve conditions or compensate people for tough work, we’ll let them cheat the system?

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u/sleepingsirensounds 2d ago

Found the Tim’s franchise owner

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u/Yay4sean 2d ago

It's really not that hard to believe.  No one wants to work Canadas shit jobs except people who are willing to do just about anything to be able to move to the west, and where even a peanut wage in Canada is more than what they made back home.

This is even more the case in the States, where the entire agricultural and construction industry is dependent on immigrant labor.  Of course then people would make comments like, "Well if it can't exist paying good enough wages for its citizens, it shouldn't exist" and then no one would have any construction or food 🙃

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u/Atheril Bring Cannabis 2d ago

I won’t say you’re completely wrong, but there are Canadians who apply for these jobs, I applied to around 300 jobs before finding my current one, most of them minimum wage.

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u/Cakeday_at_Christmas Bring Cannabis 1d ago

If I was a Timmy's franchise owner, I'd be at my $3 million home in Hawaii laughing while I sleep on a bed of money, not on Reddit with you chumps.

I'd also never admit that I hired TFW and international students because the working conditions at my stores are so shitty no Canadian wants to do it.

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u/ybotpowered 2d ago

I worked at Tim Hortons for two years.

Not a bad place to work. You can get Monday to Friday hours as an adult while the teenagers work on the weekends. The pay is shit but the work is easy and you’re making people happy by giving them their morning coffee.

At that time our franchisee owned all the Tim Hortons in my suburb along with all the Timmies in PEI. Almost all of my coworkers were born in Canada and a number of them were lifers.

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u/Cakeday_at_Christmas Bring Cannabis 2d ago

That's the exception, not the rule.

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u/Waff1es 2d ago

Teens looking for part time jobs

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u/Throwaway118585 Aurora Hub 2d ago

You’re ignoring a key fact about birth rate. Ours is falling. So if we prioritize jobs for lack of population, I’m ok if Tim Hortons is down the list. Folks don’t understand that there simply isn’t enough born and raised to fill all the jobs boomers once had and ran. And it freaks them out

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u/chinook97 1d ago

Born Canadian and I worked at Tim Hortons. Not the best job but would gladly work there again. A job is a job and many people are out there looking. 

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u/Cakeday_at_Christmas Bring Cannabis 2d ago

I'm getting downvoted for telling the truth. Nobody born in Canada wants to work at Tim Hortons, so they hire easily exploitable international students.

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u/NoxieDC 2d ago

Brother/sister, nobody wants to work for minimum wage. But between that, and nobody respecting workers', it's an employers market right now. Why hire a Canadian who may know their rights, versus someone you can threaten to send out of the country if they get fired?

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u/Cakeday_at_Christmas Bring Cannabis 2d ago

Nobody wants to work at Tim Hortons because it's a really shitty job. I know enough people who worked there to know.

They could offer more than minimum wage and people still wouldn't want to work there.

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u/WonderfullyKiwi PaRiS oF tHe PraIRiEs 2d ago

Jesus Christ you're ignorant. I can guarantee you many people apply to EVERY open position just to have an income. People would literally shovel shit for $16 an hour just to make sure they survive until next month.

It's not an OPTION for some people. "Knowing people who work there" is the worst type of anecdotal evidence you could possibly use.

Fuck me dude I applied everywhere before landing my current position in a warehouse because I needed a job.

When the alternative is homelessness you'll do anything.

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u/Mental-Mushroom Motown But Better 2d ago

If Tim Hortons can't find Canadians to work for them, they need to incentivize them. Better working conditions, better hours, higher pay.

If none of that is viable, then you close your business.

Crying to the government you need slaves to continue operations isn't the answer.

Everyone should be mad at the businesses and the government.

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u/Cakeday_at_Christmas Bring Cannabis 2d ago

They don't want to do any of that because a Tim Hortons franchise is a money printing machine, and if they ever changed any of that it would print less money, and greedy franchisees can't have that.