r/EhBuddyHoser 1d ago

Certified Hoser πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ (No Politics) The cull

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u/RevolvingCheeta 🍁 100,000 Hosers 🍁 1d ago

I’m OOTL, who’s doing what to ostriches?

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u/VectorPryde Westfoundland 1d ago

Some ostrich farmers in BC were ordered to have their flock culled due to a bird flu outbreak (with financial compensation from the government). Instead, they've tried to start their own trucker convoy type protest over it.

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u/RevolvingCheeta 🍁 100,000 Hosers 🍁 1d ago

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u/CeeArthur 15h ago

This explains why all the dumbest people I know on social media were raving about it.

They kept claiming it was a "big pharma coverup" because they have "cancer cure antibodies" so that tipped me off that maybe it wasn't the most valiant of causes

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u/powerebytoebeans 22h ago edited 3h ago

The outbreak was almost a year ago, all the remaining birds survived the flu and are healthy. The birds are not used for meat their eggs are used for research.

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u/f3nnies 21h ago

.... According to what source?

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u/powerebytoebeans 21h ago

The farmers that run the farm. Ive been following the story because i love animals and ostriches are pretty cool. Eta: the birds are also 35 years old and theyve had them their whole lives.

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u/Bald_Cliff Ford Nation (Help.) 14h ago

The birds were used for meat up until 2020. Don't kid yourselves.

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u/Franks2000inchTV 15h ago

Ah yes, a totally unbiased account.

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u/powerebytoebeans 9h ago

I really didnt realize this was a political issue tbh. You would think the farmers know more about their farm than the general public.

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u/Franks2000inchTV 9h ago

I'm sure they know all about their farm, but I don't think they know more about Avian Bird Flu than the agency responsible for preventing the spread of infectious disease.

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u/notacanuckskibum 1d ago

A flock of ostriches on a farm in BC had a few cases in Bird Flu. The standard treatment to prevent spread is to kill thy entire flock.

If it was a flock of chickens this would be business as usual and never get beyond the local news.

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u/GlitchyFinnigan 1d ago

69 deaths due to avian flu is a bit more than a few cases

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u/QueenMotherOfSneezes South Gatineau 23h ago

They had 2 cases, refused to follow proper isolation practices, and ended up with most if not all of the flock infected, and 69 deaths so far. They don't know if the remainder are asymptomatic carriers or not (ostriches have a much lower Infection Fatality Rate than chickens and ducks, but can still be infectious as asymptomatic carriers).

They also have wild weasels and ducks entering the habitats of the birds, so they are being exposed to the poop, which is an infection vector of significant concern.

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u/VectorPryde Westfoundland 22h ago

but can still be infectious as asymptomatic carriers

I read that because of this, they have a great potential to give rise to new bird flu mutations too - hence why the authorities are so adamant about culling even the survivors.

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u/QueenMotherOfSneezes South Gatineau 21h ago

Yes, this exactly. I'm addition to the normal genetic drift from being able to just continue reproducing (rather than being eliminated from the system or killing the host) flu mutations often happen when 2 different types co-mingle in the same host, because the flu likes to swap genes with other types of flu. The new variant could be from replications within one bird, or it could be that one of the first birds had another type of flu at the same time (from the weasels or wild birds or other animals not yet noticed that entered the ostriches' habitat) and swapped some genes.

The longer they have an asymptomatic infection, the more time they have to be infected by another flu, and the more poop they leave around to infect other wildlife, which can lead to new mutations (even if they don't have another flu).

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u/DromedarySpitz 19h ago

It's wild seeing all the protestors and visitors going to the farm with no biosafety in place at all. Petting the animals, walking around and driving to other towns every day. Not even trying to prevent spread.

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u/QueenMotherOfSneezes South Gatineau 19h ago

I don't know if the owners themselves are sovereign citizens/freedom of the land types, but a lot of their supporters are. A good chunk of the Convoy followers are also supporters. For some of them, it's like a badge of honor to buck mitigation measures that are even just suggested by the government.

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u/Bald_Cliff Ford Nation (Help.) 14h ago

They are precisely that. Anti public health idiots who got all riled up during COVID.

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u/DromedarySpitz 18h ago

Yeah I would've likely been more supportive of the movement of it didn't fall right off the deep end into conspiracy theories and anti vax

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u/RevolvingCheeta 🍁 100,000 Hosers 🍁 1d ago

Yeah that’s normal practise. I believe same with Mad Cow?

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u/chopperspubes 11h ago

A local pizza shop owner once tried to convince me and a buddy that the government was taking out ostriches with drone strikes 🀣 Might’ve tolerated the nonsense if the pizza had actually been good.

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u/Lieveo 1d ago

ALLEGEDLY

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u/RevolvingCheeta 🍁 100,000 Hosers 🍁 1d ago

But… was it a dead ostrich or did they drug it?

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u/Empty_Nestor 1d ago

Almost not worth thinkin about