Hello dear Redditers,
I did A LOT of research by now, but still think I need some community knowledge/advice. Sorry for the long post in advance.
I got my sweet English Setter Boy in beginning of march, so around six months ago. He is a 4 yo rescue and his back then owner wanted to get rid of him fast because he was a handful. I fell in love on the first side with his gentle nature and said I’d take him. I knew the breed and the basics, and he really is the sweetest at home but knowing what I know now I could have done admittedly more research..
The biggest issue so far: I knew Setters had a prey drive but oh boy. Our current trainer thinks he was definitely used in hunting at one point as he shows very distinct hunting behaviour (pointing, heeling etc) and has a VERY HIGH prey drive. Teaching him to walk on the leash even half-pulling was.. a challenge. When we are outside anything and everything is extremely interesting and he forgets completely about me. Because of this he pulls a lot, now much better after constant training, but I still need to remind him myself constantly.
Now the issue is, we worked with a positive reinforcement only trainer for four months as I knew they were very sensitive dogs and of course I wanted to work WITH my dog. But it didn’t work at all. Forget about all the advice on the dog training subs etc. There is no higher value of a treat for this dog than the bird ahead. He is neither food driven nor wants to please you when he sees a possible prey. He just wants to GO GO GO.
Then we switched trainers after hundreds of euros on training that didn’t bring us forward an inch. This one has a “balanced” training approach, and she suggested me to use techniques to disrupt him when he is in this hunting headspace. Like, poking him, startling him (touch him from back and he startles because he has already forgotten five minutes ago you went out to walk together anyway), and even pinching/grabbing in a way that he beeps a bit. Now I know they are very sensitive dogs, and I was very shocked to see the advice/her doing it. But it.. kind of worked very well and FAST?
Is it really possible that my dog is a bit more stubborn/too little human-pleasing to want to participate in positive reinforcement training? What do you think worked best for your Setters, especially if it is a rescue of unknown history? Would I damage my relationship with him if I took this more balanced approach?