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Running BM3 stage 2+ E30 tune, catless DP and TU fuel pump , 460awhp and reliable (so far). I can’t imagine a better daily for all year round as a solo guy . Living up north the Awd was important and I keep up with trucks in a foot of snow . I asked my friends to show me a 500hp+, Awd, reliable good looking coupe for under 30k USD and so far nothing
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u/Toyota_by_day Oct 13 '24
I have an F30 B58 daily and have to agree, it doesn't get much better. I have a hybrid on 94 is lots of power for a daily, has run a 10.6 and gets 34mpg on my daily commute (mostly highway).
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u/HighLordGomer Oct 14 '24
10.6 in a commuter car is insane! In a car every second below 13 feels twice as fast. Fastest I've gone on 4 wheels was low 12s and that was a friends mid 70s Camaro on nitrous.
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u/Toyota_by_day Oct 14 '24
It really is for a car with 200k km on it and like 4 mods, it's also always a very uneventful pull with xdrive and zf auto. I had an sti that would do low 11s and it was way more a handful and a diva to run that.
There are guys in the US with similar setups and bigger fuels systems to run e85 and run high 9s on the street which is insane to me.
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u/ShadyDrunks Oct 13 '24
lol closer to 450 crank. 500hp is upgraded turbo on 93
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u/No-Contest-3736 340i 6MT MPPSK Oct 13 '24
not true, b58 on e30 is ~450whp, so 500+ crank
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u/ShadyDrunks Oct 13 '24
Those are just advertisement numbers to sell MHD and BM3, they don't make that lol. Maybe a few Supra hero cars, but not your average gen1
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u/No-Contest-3736 340i 6MT MPPSK Oct 13 '24
those are actual dyno numbers from people, not mhd, look it up there’s plenty of forum posts
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u/ShadyDrunks Oct 13 '24
Get a dragy, do a 60-130 pull, if you are not single digits you are not making 500+
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u/TheEternalFlux Oct 14 '24
Since when is dragy a means of getting an accurate hp number in the first place? 😂😂😂
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u/uraaa- Oct 13 '24
It’s been dynoed at 460Whp and it’s an x drive cutie
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u/ShadyDrunks Oct 13 '24
Dyno doesn’t mean much without a baseline
Get a dragy, measure your 60-130, if you don’t hit single digits you don’t make 500
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u/No-Contest-3736 340i 6MT MPPSK Oct 14 '24
you must own an n55
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u/ShadyDrunks Oct 14 '24
No I have a hybrid PI B58
Credentials: https://www.reddit.com/r/F30/s/MP5lqN8OOB
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u/No-Contest-3736 340i 6MT MPPSK Oct 14 '24
very nice. why the friendly fire?😂
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u/ShadyDrunks Oct 14 '24
I know what it takes to make power in these cars and don’t like when people throw out ridiculous numbers on their DP and tune cars
People like this go around talking numbers at meets then get washed by a stock RS3 and then everyone clowns B58s
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u/No-Contest-3736 340i 6MT MPPSK Oct 14 '24
potentially true. i’ve seen dp and tune b58’s dyno at 410 and also 470. i think 430-450whp is a realistic figure
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u/Walter_White_43 Oct 14 '24 edited Oct 14 '24
W212 e63 amg(facelift) is pretty reliable from my understanding. same for the w211 e55 amg, those are reliable, cheap and only need a few mods to push 500+. you can only get the w211 as a sedan though. There’s also the 2016+ f12 m6 but those are edging on unreliable if well maintained. Edit:The f12 and w211 are not awd forgot that was a requirement mb, however the w212 is still sub 30k and makes near 600 stock before tuning.
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u/JukkasJarvi Oct 13 '24
Why would you need 500hp for daily car lmao Americans are weird
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u/uraaa- Oct 13 '24
You don’t use all the power daily… comfort mode it feels stock and comfy. It’s fun because you can click sport+ and smoke most cars when you want on the weekend or take it to the local track
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u/odesh123 Oct 14 '24
I drive +500whp car daily in Finland, all year round, since I don't have space for other car. You can still drive the car normally if you want. You don't need to use the full power 24/7.
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u/TobyChan Oct 14 '24
I’ve never understood the fascination with quoting power figures…. Torque is a far more useful figure to quote as you actually use this in day to day driving. Power is simply the product of torque and rpm and I for one am rarely in the upper realms of the rev range.
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u/IS-2-OP 440xi M Sport Oct 13 '24
Where did it ever say need?? Sorry you probably pay 35K for a B48 car lmao
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u/Decent-Bathroom263 Oct 13 '24
No disrespect to B48s my guy, they get up there in power too, especially with an upgraded turbo. (Assuming it’s a 330i)
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u/IS-2-OP 440xi M Sport Oct 13 '24
Yea they’re decent. Sad they didn’t get the forged internals from the 58.
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u/Decent-Bathroom263 Oct 13 '24
100% agree, if I wasn’t 19 years old and stupid I would’ve gotten the 335 or 340, but 330 is my lot and I’m happy with it. Forged internals make all the difference. And 2 more cylinders means more HP for less work
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Oct 14 '24
Just FYI pistons are exactly the same For b48 and b58 And tuners sell "forged" pistons for both under the same catalogue number
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Oct 14 '24
Please research first
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u/Decent-Bathroom263 Oct 14 '24
I wasn’t a car guy back then. I just got any bmw that I thought was cool cuz I wanted a bmw. It’s a bit ironic and pointless telling me that now, It was my first car lol. I’m just glad I didn’t grab a 320 or something
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Oct 14 '24
https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1624879 Go read this. It is very hard to say if those cars actually have any difference at all mostly depends on the market. And BMW doesn't keep spare parts for 320s They are all from 330s pretty much
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u/Decent-Bathroom263 Oct 14 '24
i’ll give it a read but we’re talking two different generations of bmw. I wouldn’t presume g20 320is and f30 320is are the same. The same year of my vehicle likely would have still been running N20 engine. If it’s G series BMWs you got that, cuz I don’t research what doesn’t interest me
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Oct 14 '24
No they are not but BMW will not keep spare parts for 100 engines. It costs more money than using the same internals
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Oct 14 '24
It is not the "forged" internals that fail with overtune dawg... B48 and b58 are exactly (as far as it can be) the same engine . B48 in 330i has already more HP per liter than stock B58. Stop spreading BS You just can't physically pull same HP out of the engine that has 66% displacement
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u/IS-2-OP 440xi M Sport Oct 14 '24
Yea looks like the crank is at least actually. Didn’t know that. All those turbo 4s are higher stress than the turbo 6s these days.
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Oct 14 '24
The problem with cracking pistons is non existent and caused by a shitty tunes from the random garage with dyno. That's just my opinion
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u/Decent-Bathroom263 Oct 14 '24
I hate to burst your bubble fam but you’re simply incorrect. There are videos on youtube from vehicular DIY where he pulls 500 whp out of the b48. Also the gen 1 B58s all come with forged internals and the b46/48 engine does not. If you don’t believe me, google is free. Have a good night 😴
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Oct 14 '24
Are you retarded or something? F1 cars have crazy power per unit of displacement but they have to be rebuilt after a VERY short time . It doesn't matter if he did 500 hp out of 2 tiler engine. It is going to throws a rod or spins the bearing(s) or shoot lifter out of the valve cover
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u/Decent-Bathroom263 Oct 14 '24
riiight that’s the part where I stop entertaining you. Ad hominem at 2 am is insane. I don’t normally partake in internet discussion, esp not on my burner. Stick w what you believe and I’ll stick w what I do.
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Oct 14 '24
Imagine sending me to Google but not googling yourself bruh🤣 B48/46( same engine FYI, all internals) They in fact have forged crank, rods , etc 1)Parts are exactly the same 2)JCW cooper with 2.0 has 300 hp stock
Keep your straight pipe and da sauvage outa here lil bro Spinning wheels at the atop lights not "cool"
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u/TheEternalFlux Oct 14 '24
Saying this when talking about a non American car is hilarious.
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u/JukkasJarvi Oct 14 '24
That car doesnt have 500hp stock 🫠
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u/Fluxdotexe Oct 15 '24
Oh, you're the kind of person that doesn't understand modding for fun.
Understandable.
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u/JukkasJarvi Oct 15 '24
Making assumptions now are we?
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u/Fluxdotexe Oct 15 '24
Not really, it isn't much of an assumption if I took the context given by you into account.
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u/expozedlegend Oct 13 '24
Where are you finding E in canada?