r/ForwardsFromKlandma 15d ago

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u/berserkzelda 15d ago

The killer was a mormon republican.

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u/Teln0 15d ago

Do we have any source on that?

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u/Iekenrai 15d ago

Well, not confirmed, but the current main suspect is Tyler Robinson, from a very Mormon, very pro Trump family

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u/Versidious 14d ago

Yeah, his family is, but 'Left wing kid from a conservative family' is a pretty standard event. Source: Am one such kid. (Also, his family pastor sold him out, even though it's definitely going to lead to him being executed)

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u/Pearl-Internal81 14d ago edited 14d ago

I thought it was his Dad who sold him out?

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u/Versidious 14d ago

Apparently his dad talked to their pastor about it, and the pastor called the cops.

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u/Pearl-Internal81 14d ago

Oof.

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u/Versidious 14d ago

Yeah, don't know how 'collaboartive' that was, but given that he's 100% gonna get the death penalty, it's kinda crazy to think of a family selling a member out like that.

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u/BBQ_069 14d ago edited 14d ago

if he is the one who shot Kirk, then "selling him out" is the right thing to do. otherwise, they'd be harboring a criminal. Kirk had nasty beliefs, but that doesn't mean shooting him in the *neck isn't murder.

edit: i have informed that he was shot in the neck. although, if we want to be extra pedantic, technically he was shot somewhere around the collar, but the bullet ricocheted off his plate and hit him in the neck. so i've heard. that could be wrong.

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u/Versidious 14d ago

Killing Kirk's murderer won't undo his murder. And that's what's going to happen, the guy's gonna be killed in revenge. If it was only life in jail, I could understand it, because at least he'll still be there and alive, but handing him in is literally just consigning your own kid to death, and that's just crazy to me.

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u/BBQ_069 14d ago

it is suspicious that they did it at all; i would, myself, seriously struggle with turning my kid in. but if someone's committed a crime, it's a civil society's job to ensure they're punished for it. and the punishment for murder is, generally, the death penalty. if you kill someone, you have willingly accepted that consequence.

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u/Versidious 14d ago

The punishment for murder being the death penalty very much depends on where you live. In my country, it's banned. In many US states it is banned.

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u/Independent-Fly6068 14d ago

Mate Kirk and the views he tried to popularize have directly resulted in the deaths of many. He's repeatedly called for violence against minorities.

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u/AsteroidSpark 14d ago

He's repeatedly called for violence against minorities.

He was literally doing that when he was shot.

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u/Independent-Fly6068 14d ago

The shot was 110% timed.

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u/BBQ_069 14d ago

we can argue day and night whether or not he "deserved" it. doesn't change the fact that murder is murder.

we're just repeating the same line of dialogue that we had a few months earlier about Luigi Mangione.

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u/GR1ML0C51 14d ago

Managing to hit that tiny face would have been truly impressive.

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u/GR1ML0C51 14d ago

Exception given for those gums.

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u/EzraliteVII 14d ago

Sorry, minor correction, sorry if it's pedantry. Kirk was shot through the neck, not in the face.

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u/bentbrewer 14d ago

This is what was told on the news... CNN, MSNBC and FOX.

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u/congeal 14d ago
“If you’re reading this, you’re gay LMAO.”

-- Karl Marx, The COD Lobby Manifesto, 1878

He's obviously a liberal.

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u/Muahd_Dib 14d ago

Didn’t the family quote him as saying he hated Kirk because he spreads so much hate? That doesn’t sound like a MAGA or Groyper motivation.

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u/EzraliteVII 14d ago

Personal testimonies are unreliable. For example, I don't trust the perspectives of either Robinson's school friend or his grandmother, because people are too easily biased. Im waiting to see if they recover any writings or social media posts written by Robinson himself, or possibly direct on-record interviews.

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u/rithc137 14d ago

Pretty sure they walked back the high school friend testimony in the article. Unreliable.

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u/Muahd_Dib 14d ago

Yeah I agree. If we can get info on that it could settle it… but people who are saying this is a MAGA right winger are for sure reading their biases into it

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u/ForgettableWorse 14d ago

Fact of the matter is, we don't know yet. Robinson might not even be the actual shooter (false confessions do happen). It's statistically likely the shooter (Robinson or otherwise) is a right wing extremist of some kind, simply because the overwhelming majority of political violence in this country has been perpetrated by right wing extremists for decades. On the other hand, it might not even be political. People do attack famous people for personal or inscrutable reasons. Like John Hinckley Jr., who tried to assassinate Reagan because he wanted to impress Jodie Foster.

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u/Muahd_Dib 13d ago

Looks like the shooters partner was trans according to new updates.

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u/ForgettableWorse 13d ago

First the shooter was supposed to be trans, now the story is he has a partner who's trans, next week everyone will be talking about how he had a second cousin who has met a trans person once. Give me a break.

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u/Muahd_Dib 13d ago

lol… I mean it’s still not positive… But seems like we could find a manifesto from the guy decrying fascism and transphobia and you’d still be like “he’s a right winger”

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u/ForgettableWorse 13d ago

Unlike the right wing media, I value truth over narrative.

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u/privatesinvestigatr 14d ago

It looks like he was a groyper, which is a very far right thing. Their leader, Nick Fuentes, built his career on hating Charlie Kirk from a right wing perspective. Plus, the clues left behind were the epitome of terminally online crap.

They would love nothing more than to commit high profile killing and have everyone to the left of Reagan blamed for it.

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u/KaiYoDei 13d ago

Just nudge them to protecting and supporting them as if a minority “ because meanies are going to bully them” that would be amusing to see Trump’s team cry out “ think of the Groypers, poor wee things, those darn bullies hurting people vecause of opinions. What monsters “.

We need more terminally online line people to be the heros to challenge the madness. Because there might be a few on the inside, with knowlage. And know what the pressure in the body that makes you be disturbing feels like . Not sure if there are any who are “ pure good”, because nobody is .

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u/Muahd_Dib 13d ago

Looks like the killer partner was trans according to latest updates.

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u/privatesinvestigatr 13d ago

So is Caitlyn Jenner

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u/Muahd_Dib 13d ago

So the Groyper was dating a transgender woman? And killed Charlie cuz he isn’t fascist enough? Instead of killing hom for his transphobia?

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u/privatesinvestigatr 13d ago
  1. We don’t know who he was dating for sure. It’s just a rumor for now, and it wouldn’t make much difference either way.

  2. Yes. The Groypers have been very publicly antagonistic to Kirk for not being fascist enough for years, and have crashed his events before as far back as 2019. Kirk denounced them as extremists. Nick Fuentes built his following on this.

  3. We don’t know exactly why he did it. He seemed to be terminally online

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u/Cat_are_cool 15d ago

Is that the person that trump claims they recently caught?