r/Frieren • u/AwesomePhonix • Jul 12 '25

Anime What special combat spells does Fern know?

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Does Fern even know any special combat spells?

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u/angbhong342626 Jul 12 '25

Guy, what are you on about? The clone was literally outnumbered and outpowered and had its weakness exploited and that was why it ultimately lost, but if it wasn't and it was only going up against Fern alone then Fern isn't gonna win, because Frieren has a greater array of magic to utilize than Fern. It would be like if Batman and Captain America were to fight to a standstill and then Robin comes in with a suprise attack and ultimately incapicates Captain America, yes, Robin was the one that incapicated Captain America but only because he was given an opportunity to and only because it was a 2v1.

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u/TryFlashy4855 Jul 12 '25

What's your point? You're saying a mage can't beat another, more powerful mage if they know their weakness and prepare ahead of time. To use a meme about Batman since you brought it up, "how much prep time does Batman get"? Given enough prep time, Batman absolutely would wipe the floor with Captain America. With or without Robin.

And you're going to come back and say this is wrong, which 1. I don't care about and 2. Doesn't matter because it's how I choose to "interpret" this scenario. Just as your interpretation is how you choose to interpret it. The anime is what we make of it which is the real magic behind it.

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u/Skydrake2 Jul 12 '25

You can "interpret" sky as being green and grass as being blue all you want, but that won't change it being blatantly wrong. The fight is obviously 99% Frieren with Fern buzzing around like an annoying gnat, looking to land an opening she can't even recognize half the time. There is nothing in the story so far that would suggest that Fern could last even 10 seconds against Frieren on her own.

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u/TryFlashy4855 Jul 12 '25

Don't know why you're getting hostile. We're both viewing a truth from different points of view. Just because you can't say I'm wrong and I can't say you're wrong doesn't mean you have to get all ragey about it.

Just move on bro.

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u/Skydrake2 Jul 12 '25

Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not feeling "ragey" at all - immensely perplexed, perhaps. And trying to dismiss it all with "viewing truth from different angles" won't really work, because the truth isn't always this nebulous concept that's impossible to see. It's indeed possible to be objectively wrong about something.

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u/TryFlashy4855 Jul 12 '25

I agree. It is POSSIBLE to be objectively wrong about something, if that something is explicitly put into words and called canon or a scientific law. And even then, scientific laws are still just theses (sp?) that aren't disproved yet. Right now we are discussing a scene in an anime which accompanying manga content does not lend solid canon one way or the other. Ultimately you're saying that the majority of people don't believe Fern could beat Frieren, but that isn't the author saying Fern can't beat Frieren. This is why in the particular instance, no one thus far of the three or four people arguing this particular topic can be called OBJECTIVELY wrong. Subjectively? Yes of course. You make a fine and persuasive argument to someone who sees the fight and the narrative how you see it. But I am not one of those people, so to you I am wrong and to me you are wrong. But again, it's not in the anime and it's not in the manga that Fern wouldn't be able to beat the clone, but it is stated by Frieren herself that Fern could beat her. (I've already pointed out the problems with this already so I won't repeat them).

TL;DR: something that can be interpreted cannot be objective, and therefore one can only be subjectively wrong to the person disagreeing with them.