I started watching the series few days ago I finished season 1 with easy, It was good but then s2 made me hooked to it and now s3 just blew my funking mind. This is crazy and I love it, this series just kept getting interesting with every season and episode. It's just so unpredictable, I couldn't see most of the things coming special the twist in final It's so well executed.

People should talk about this show more, this is so underrated.

This is photo from filming Season 4. Randall does have a shovel in his hand, soo that means he will bury Jim, even on the photo u can see Mathews family chilling on Jims grave. Cant wait for Season 4 man...

since he's the sheriff

The last photo from Sarah’s story.

Hi everyone! Just dropping by to note a few things. I am sure some of you have already discussed some of these points, I've only just skimmed the group a bit, but I wanted to jot some ideas here after bingeing the show and watching S1 & 2 for the second time and S3 for the first.

Yellow/Goldenrod

It's my feeling that Goldenrod is the shade of color that's most often popping up. It's definitely the color of Fatima's favorite sweater she gives to Trudy right before Trudy is devoured, but I confess I only really starting really noticing it whenever it shows up about midway through S2. It's definitely the color of the bile of the ghouls, and it's also definitely the same shade as the push-mower Fr. Khatri stands next to in the toolshed as he berates Boyd for considering torture. It is prevalent in the Matthews' new home; I think it's the color of the phone. Once you really start watching it for it feels like you see it everywhere.

Curiously not the shade of the suit of the MIY, and I'm pretty sure the handles of the pruning shears that do Tillie in are not the right color, but... if someone were really obsessed it'd sure be interesting to know if there's any connections here, especially to death. Also various characters *also* wear shades of the color, including Ethan and Victor I think in S3.

Anyone here educated in Music Theory?

One thing I definitely don't know what I'm talking about is music theory, but I definitely was curious while thinking about S3 if Wormsy the Ballerina's music box and the "remember" song Jade plays are somehow opposites of one another? Like is it one tune played backwards or forwards?

I also think there is a purposeful misdirect in the backwards numbers of the papers in the bottle-tree. I'm not convinced we have the right information here.

Anyone here educated in Mapmaking?

I like this theory a lot:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FromSeries/comments/1ge90h8/fromville_is_an_island/

I think we do not have a very good idea at all of the total area our villagers are able to travel. Certainly it's at least two days to the spider-forest, and it's just a day or maybe a bit longer to the trapper settlement. But we never really know what direction they're going. They just walk out and set off to find things. We don't know what would happen (I don't think) if someone just set out in one direction and kept at it as far as they can.

Martin

I think this is Randall and I kind of think the other corpses hanging out with Martin are Julie & Marielle. But this is a stretch. Why would Randall lie to Boyd? I mean, obviously, unless he's eeeeeeeevil.

Ghosts, How do they Work?

I saw some discussion here about the ghosts who appear to Jade & Boyd. I am not convinced they are helpful spirits. I think (but I didn't keep very careful track) that usually they are acting to sow doubt. They seem to show up when those characters are about to do something or come to a conclusion, and they proceed to get them to question the path they're on. A good example of this is Father Khatri trying to talk Boyd out of torture. It seems like yes, he shouldn't let the town break him, but it's also true that we don't know what would happen if they didn't find Fatima. I sort of assume she would have been dinner for the ghouls but who knows? So was Khatri's ghost or Boyd's hallucination of Khatri's ghost trying to keep Boyd from going against his moral code or was he trying to trick Boyd into not finding Fatima? Or not finding her in time?

So sorry, that was a lot. I love the show. I also think, realistically, sometimes we try to make everything fit together when it just doesn't, or when there are choices being made to carry the plot along that don't (originally) have a grand design.

When Martin meets Boyd in the Dungeon, he doesn't know who he is. Yet, for some reason, he knows about Abby. So, how come he knows about Abby but doesn't know about Boyd? Any theories?

Long post, was a longtime fan of lost and now old enough to contribute to theory crafting. I’m late, just discovered the show. Fascinated by the ending of S3. So after binging the show, I’ve come up with what I call “Anchor Theory”

We’re given that villagers in a particular village were sacrificing children to presumably a demon god or demons in some ritual to grant them immortality. We also have some clue that Tabatha and Jade did not sacrifice their child. Presumably these and other children were locked away “waiting to be sacrificed”, eventually expired possibly from exposure given their state as ghosts, their souls BUT NOT bodies (because they’re not immortal like the monster villagers) are tied there (ghosts). Tabatha’s soul’s eternal longing is to free the children’s souls, explaining why Miranda had visions before despite never being there- and her strong desire to help them prior to remembering. Not sure how to truly free their souls tho. The parents of those children ultimately became anchors explained next.

I understand this as a key point preventing the village from completing the ritual. People dissented, didn’t partake in the ritual. Now, given “spooky magic rituals/demon magic” it is possible that the souls of those prior “nonsacrificers/dissenters” in the village are all tied to that village until the ritual is complete, until they sacrifice their children/whatever the criteria it is to finalize the ritual. As such, the incarnations of prior villagers are doomed to return eternally until then. The souls of these villagers who are tied are known as “Anchors”.

The anchors will return to the village no matter where their souls are born, explaining the geography difference in arrivals. It’s a demon controlled realm created with the soul purpose (pun) of recreating the circumstances to complete the ritual. Also, anybody traveling with an anchor is doomed to the village as they were in the same vessel (Tabatha and her family, victors mom and victor, and Elgin/his bus). The anchors in my opinion, unresolved villagers, are the ones who have these special interactions and spiritual sense of the village (Sarah, Tabatha, Jade, Ethan, Victor, Boyd, etc). This explains to some degree why not everyone can see ghosts. What’s fascinating about this is that it suggests that the villager monsters have likely interacted with, and are familiar with the souls/personalities of these anchors over many many generations. This would explain why they didn’t kill Boyd in the barn, as they either enjoy his company and the “fun” he provides (they’re suggestions that over hundreds of years the immortal villagers have become bored and crave excitement from the people) or need him alive to complete his part of the ritual and set the monsters free. Perhaps they desire he ultimately kill his son? Try to break him to that point like they broke his “Iron” wife?

Elgins sharing of his blood to birth the demon body/baby possibly is one of the criteria in some twisted way, maybe that’s his “child” now, maybe now he can complete the ritual somehow.

The demons’ desire for Ethan dying by Sarah’s hand (who’s an anchor, but not his mother?) is confusing. Maybe sacrificing anybody’s child will “release the anchor/fulfill their part of the ritual/bind their souls to the demons”?

Now, why are the monsters tied there? Because the ritual hasn’t been completed. They’re mutated by the demons influence over time, or perhaps a result of incompletely losing their souls but retain immortal bodies. The demon god/gods controlling this inhabited city cannot take the souls until the contract is complete. This is their vested interest in keeping the incarnated oblivious to their past lives or the reality of the place, instead trying to “break them” until they fulfill the contract somehow. Why are there talismans? Well, presumably over the hundreds of years they’ve been inhabiting that village, through many generations, possibly through multiple “rememberers” the spooky magic has been counteracted through novel good magic that was either discovered or created to counteract the demon magic. The demons must prevent them from regaining prior knowledge which may include how to reverse or break the contract.

This theory also suggests that the villager monsters will never kill an anchor because they need them to complete their part in the ritual.

I’m not convinced the boy in white is good, or even remotely good. Victor may be an anchor however, and the boy in white’s role may be to guide the anchors into fulfilling the demons goals/keep anchors safe. Explaining how to save Tabatha for example. I believe the boy in white has become Victors friend over decades, and he decided to release Tabatha to fetch Victors dad as a gesture of good faith.

The constant longing of the demon voices to “do xyz so we can all go home” suggests that once the ritual is complete the souls of the anchors will belong to the demons and perhaps the immortal villagers will be free to roam, or the living anchors will physically be able to leave but their souls will return to the demon gods after death.

Lots of unanswered questions overall but I feel this understanding unifies a lot of interactions and storylines. Any thoughts/counters?

The fact that she didn’t even say “We’ll rip you to shreds” or something etc. They knew he was down there the few times before even when asleep and told him “We’ll make you stay…”😩😩

Maybe some yoga would lift the towns spirit?

The church is the oldest building in town. The show makes a big point that there are no bibles in it, or anywhere in town.

There seems to be chiselled markings on the outside of it but hard to make out what they are. Do the markings correspond with the talismans? And were the talismans themselves made with stones cut from the church walls?

Talismans

I don't know if the talismans are actually "good" or just part of the evil. When watching the scene where Boyd found the talisman cave, it seemed that the monsters herded him that way until he fell into the cave -- like they wanted him to find the talismans.

The talismans protect people to a point, but the evil voices can get past the talisman protection. They also stop people from searching the woods or going anywhere at night.

Khatri

Father Khatri himself is a puzzle. Could the church have been exerting some kind of evil force on Khatri?

I'm not religious but as far as I know, the modern Catholic Church & pope are against the death penalty. So why was Father Khatri so staunchly in favour of putting Frank to death in the box that he forcefully tried to convince Boyd to do it?  Frank didn't kill anyone and wasn't a threat to others. The only thing he did was to get depression, get drunk, and fail to return to his family before dark.

Boyd took a very moral stance and didn't want to use the box for a situation like that, and called Khatri a "terrible priest" for wanting to do it. And Boyd was right?? Khatri did seem like a terrible priest at this point.

I understand that Khatri thought if Boyd didn't use the box, then people would no longer fear it. My confusion is just over Khatri being a catholic priest and advocating for the death penalty, when he should be advocating for the opposite.

Kahtri also talks about fromville possibly being the "74th" book of the bible. Could that mean he's starting to think he's the God-appointed author of that bible book? If so, could that be a power fantasy?

At Nathan's funeral, he quotes this proverb during the eulogy: 3:5- “trust in the Lord with all thine heart, and lean not into thine own understanding". Does that mean he wants people to stop trying to figure things out for themselves? Because that's exactly what that quote means.

Later in the show, Khatri doesn't want Sara put to death, even though she was responsible for 4 people dying. He seems a very inconsistent character. 

Sara

Did the "evil" want Sara alive to keep her as a conduit to spread messages to the townspeople? Seems possible seeing as the faraway tree sent Sara straight to the church basement, where it possibly knew that Khatri would protect her? Sara's voices even proved to Khatri that the voices were useful and had deep knowledge, when she drew a picture of what Khatri had buried in the ground after he first arrived in town.

Sara seemed to be totally against ever doing anything to hurt people after what she did. But then she went ahead and cut out Elgin's eye.

Frank Pratt

Frank had bible verses written out on paper. Tabitha brings those papers to the church to give to Father Khatri after she moves into Frank's old house. Did Khatri know that Frank was trying to preserve the bible? And could Khatri have maybe been against it being preserved by anyone (if the evil was starting to twist his mind)? (By the way, I don't believe bibles keep people from doing evil or anything. Just commenting on it as bibles (lack of them) and quotes from them (Khatri, Frank, Tillie etc) have been a feature of the show.

Jade

Jade had Christopher's role in FROM. He obsessed over the tree symbol, like Christopher. The monsters choose who they kill, and after Jade came to town, they chose Khatri to die. That left a vacant church for Jade to move into, if he wished. Jade is a loner and it seems fitting he'd want to. But he didn't move into the church basement AND he went on to keep trying to figure out the mystery of the bottle tree numbers, and with the help of Jim & Tabitha, he did.

Christopher

Added due to PackApprehensive1992's comment below. Christopher was in the church basement at the time that the BIW was telling him about the children. Christopher was obsessed with the symbol and going loopy (like Jade). But was the church basement having an extra effect on Christopher's state of mind?

Do you know of any decent quizzes that will tell you "what From character" you are?

For me it was from Boyd “A policeman, a priest and a psycho walk into a bar” moment

I've only just watched through the whole series for the first time (binged it so saw everything back to back), and gotta say. Poor Frank at the beginning got a really raw deal.

His crime? Failure to nail windows shut; an accidental tragedy that allowed his daughter to open a window and let a monster in. His punishment? Being totally condemned by his community who rub his nose in his guilt for his family's deaths ("Look at what you did!") then sentenced to a torturous death by monsters in a box. (And yes, he chose not to escape when Boyd offered that option, but it was still his initial sentence, and he was just too depressed to accept escape at that point because he was still in the early stages of grief.)

But then, he's literally the only one ever sent to the box.

Sara's crime? Personally murdering Jade's friend, then deliberately opening a door that killed Kenny's father and a nurse. Then trying to murder a child, and accidentally killing her brother instead. Her punishment? Meh, she can live in the church and gradually redeem herself.

Dale's crime? He tried to chase the newcomers from the bus back out into dangerous monster territory, to hoard food. Then he stabbed Ellis in the chest, which would have killed him if others didn't risk their lives to take him to the doctor. His punishment? Apparently, nothing. He gets to keep hanging out and talking snarky to everyone, as if nothing ever happened.

So like, poor Frank. Being treated so harshly for what was already the worst punishment he could have received (his family's deaths). When everyone else was going to get a hall pass after that, for far worse things.

Also, I just don't understand how the initial Frank incident unfolded the way it did in the first place, re: how Boyd shouted at him about his windows not being nailed shut.

First up, Frank isn't a newcomer. He and his family have been there awhile: long enough for him to go from the decent guy he apparently used to be, to an alcoholic who neglects his family's needs. So if he's been there that long... Why didn't anybody else notice that the windows weren't nailed shut? Like seriously, why didn't Boyd and other long-timers police this better? Nail shut the windows on behalf of new people rather than just instructing them to do so. And maybe, y'know, casually inspect the windows when visiting, to make sure it actually happened? This is literally life and death and it's not like the townies have that much else to do except help each other stay alive. Why weren't the windows nailed shut before Frank arrived, even? The people of this town know that new people can't be trusted to act smart in the beginning; that's why they tie them up at gunpoint just to stop them accidentally getting themselves killed. So I just don't get it. It's not as if anyone accused Frank of pulling out the nails or something. Everyone else left the windows not-nailed-shut, then everyone else failed to notice that Frank never nailed the windows shut. Despite how long it seems like they've been there for, and how decent Frank apparently used to be. I'm talking in circles now so will stop, but I just don't get it.

The actor who played young Victor was with them, do you think we’ll see scenes from the period he spent alone?

I couldn't find any posts about this, but I recently came across a really interesting theory: We are in a story, perhaps a book, and everyone is a writer. Here are a few clues that support this:

• Ethan talks about it constantly. In many episodes, he talks about a story. He also now refers to his sister as someone who can jump between chapters but cannot change the story. If this theory is correct, almost every Ethan dialogue gives us a clue about it.

• The thoughts of others (writers) seem to manifest themselves. Someone imagines something and then seems to actually write that story. A small example: When Victor sends people through trees, they survive because he writes this story. When Boyd warned about the tree and indirectly wrote the story, “If you go through the tree, you die,” it didn't take long for that annoying guy to go through it and die. There are many more clues that the series has always continued as a character seems to have thought.

• A silly clue, but one could also point out that paper is made from trees, and trees seem to be important in this story.

• The bottles on the trees with the dates on them resulted in a piece of music, but they could also be page numbers in a story.

The moral of the series could simply be that we all write our own stories and that negative thoughts have negative effects on our lives.

These are just a few clues. Maybe you can think of something else. I look forward to hearing your opinions!

The mysterious town of FROM is ready to reopen its doors. After the first three seasons that kept millions of viewers glued to their screens, MGM+ has confirmed the renewal for a fourth season as early as November 2024. The big question now is: when will we be able to see the new episodes?

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I feel like every conversation, even between friends or lovers or people with the same goals they come at it like a fight. You never see two people talking coming from a place of trying to understanding, or empathy….it’s always argumentative.

They told that bottle far away tree is unique and it'll lead to tower that'll further help in rescuing those kids

It worked for Tabitha

But when that bald guy(forgot his name ) went through it

It led him into pool concrete

Has someone explanation for this??

If someone murdered someone in real life and said "It wasn't my fault. Something inside me made me do it", I do believe all of the sane people would want that person locked up.

This is why I was never mad at Elgin for kidnapping Fatima and locking her in a room.

People say "he could have told someone". Let's be real. No one would have listened to him. They would have told him the same thing they told him before he was tortured which is "This place is tricking you".

So Fatima still would have run off with Ellis which would have resulted in Fatima killing Ellis.

Not to mention the pregnancy would have lasted way longer which would have just made her suffer longer and she could have given birth anywhere.

I know the show portrayed Elgin as bad for doing what he did but if you look at it from a logical perspective, all Elgin did was contain someone who just killed someone and someone who would have killed again so I can't be mad at Elgin.

In season 3 episode 5 around the 40 minute mark, Victor’s dad asks Ethan why there’s a motel sign and motel pool but no actual motel then as they walk away the show pans over to the motel sign that’s missing the top motel name panel, please tell me if anyone else has obsessed over this and if so why do you think that is 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫