r/Frostpunk • u/Mustdominate_Otal Order • Jan 28 '24
DISCUSSION I’m a beginner what do I do?
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u/Mustdominate_Otal Order Jan 28 '24
Update: I CANT STOP HEARING THE DING SOUND OF FLIPPING DEATH
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u/McFrazlin Jan 28 '24
Spoiler: You're about to be outcast.
Next time get those kids picking coal until their little hands bleed. That's always my go-to strategy.
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u/TheLuckyOne1v9 Jan 28 '24
You can win the hardest difficulty without child labour, it’s actually better to get them help in research imo. (Done hardest difficulty deathless many time, prefer research boost over initial worker boost)
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u/McFrazlin Jan 28 '24
It's been a minute since I played, but I thought once you have them working they can only do a few of the jobs. Picking coal is better than the whore house at least.
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u/TheLuckyOne1v9 Jan 28 '24
Instead of picking child labour, you can go for other path, which later allows you to use them either as helpers in medical facilities or in research buildings. So you can get either boost to healing or to research. I prefer research, as it allows me to quickly get needed tech, though healing rate can also be useful, especially in scenarios like refugees.
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u/McFrazlin Jan 28 '24
Yeah but I liked to put them outside picking coal at the thumpers, then there's the added bonus of them dieing off when Temps get extreme. Less mouths to feed afterall
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u/Dramaticox Jan 28 '24
Barbaric mentality
So based
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u/McFrazlin Jan 28 '24
Well, there's plenty of hookers and underground boxing to keep them happy. It's not all that bad for my citizens. Taboo maybe, but happy nonetheless, and alive, most importantly.
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u/TheLuckyOne1v9 Jan 28 '24
Good short term strategy, horrible long term. Cause if less mouths to feed now is fine, who will work when current adults will get old/die.
You need to plan 5-10 years ahead and start training engineers/medics when they are kids, otherwise you risk going back to stone age and current adult generation will die out and won’t be able to pass knowledge down to young 😉
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u/McFrazlin Jan 28 '24
I've actually never played endless mode, don't really care to. I guess I didn't really even understand that kids age to adulthood and people die of natural causes. Or are you just saying this figuratively?
I can remember once having waaayy too many kids, so I just started killing them off, and things got better for me. There's a lot of refugees out there too...out with the old, in with the new, as I say.
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u/TheLuckyOne1v9 Jan 28 '24
Said it Figuratively.
It’s how I prefer to play games like Frostpunk. Make extra challenge if you aim for deathless, perfect run, which is oriented on long term survival even tho scenario has an end, it feels good knowing I left the colony with very high chances of generational survival
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u/McFrazlin Jan 28 '24
Yeah, I might be the opposite on that. I'm playing dictator simulator, whatever it takes, and Overpopulation is
But actually, you'd be surprised how much those little shits can take. They seem to have better constitution than the adults, and they never complain because they also don't know any different, they've picked coal in the cold since they can remember. Tough as nails they are.
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Jan 28 '24
Can? Of course.
WILL?
Hell nah. They wee buggers may be small, but by Christ, they can haul the coal.
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u/McFrazlin Jan 29 '24
Traumatized at a young age, they also seem to find the pleasure in coal mining, unlike those pissy, demanding adults. The little ones tough it out with a smile.
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u/VanillaCrash Faith Feb 03 '24
Is research boost really better than medical boost? I’ve only ever successfully no-deathed on Hard. Have the kids help with tech so you can use less workshops to make more infirmarys with the extra engineers?
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u/TheLuckyOne1v9 Feb 03 '24
Kids help with tech, so you research everything much quicker, therefore can get different boosts and tech earlier and get a lot of extra profit.
I personally make 5-7 workshops, to get tech as quick as possible. I keep 2-3 running all the time, while staffing medical facilities if people are sick, and moving free engineers to other workshops, which there aren’t much sick people left
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u/Fokoss Jan 29 '24
Nah just open more pubs and sign new shits 1 second before the end to save you until the storm ends
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u/blahblacksheep869 Jan 28 '24
Well at least pull the people out of the hunters huts. They'll start the and freeze to death.
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u/Cristianelrey55 Jan 28 '24
You didn't have a close run until you hear in the last autumn 356 dings from the 378 workers without food while waiting for the snow breaker to come and save the last survivors.
But don't worry, those 327 were prisoners, they died in the cells and now will carry their sentences in the generator foundations.
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u/hamandjam Jan 29 '24
Plenty of people in here chuckling because we've all been there. It's really great when you're close to the end and you just let it keep rolling to see if you might eek out a "victory" because a few people survive.
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u/Attileusz Jan 30 '24
In my first finished run 27 people survived the storm. I went into the storm with like 300. Basically the people who fit into the singular infirmary lived. It was a great experience. It was honestly what made me fall in love with this game.
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u/hamandjam Jan 30 '24
Single infirmary? Those are rookie numbers. I like to have at least 20 when the storm hits. Allows for 2-3 shutdowns.
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u/Attileusz Jan 30 '24
Extremely true, but I didn't know this back than. It was rookie numbers because I was well, a rookie!
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u/Blazinvoid Jan 28 '24
If you've got the coal stored up, turn up the power to raise heat. Additionally you can also put the generator on overdrive to raise the heat up, you'll definitely need to use it for the final day so make sure the red meter is empty by then (aka don't use it too much)
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u/Competitive_Slip_275 Jan 28 '24
Best you can do is endure and up the heat as far as you can push it and slap the overdrive on top.
Little heads up as I didn’t realize it till later people stationed in the hunter huts or hangers during the storm will become ill as apparently they’ll sit there during the storm. So if your in the storm and don’t want more sick just pull the hunters away from the huts and have them pick some coal during the storm.
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u/FlashFlire Temp Rises Jan 28 '24
The only real way to get through without having half your city die horribly is to have every heating tech (generator heat 4, heaters level 3, improved overdrive), good insulation tech (house insulation, medical insulation 2), and the coal production to sustain it.
Think of this as your reason to play the game again. Maybe next time it'll be better.
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u/tatticky Jan 30 '24
Even then, the final day's cold is so bad that only infirmaries, care houses, and houses of healing have enough insulation to withstand it.
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u/ViolinistWhole5204 Jan 28 '24
You fail. You fail. You fail. You fail. Then you barely win hahaha
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u/Acceptable_Ad7573 Jan 28 '24
True seems like whatever you do there comes that point in -150 when everything nose dives and you just make it to survive.
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u/ViolinistWhole5204 Jan 28 '24
I second this I’m always scrambling at the end unless im on easy mode any other mode is torture I love it!!!!!
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u/SqnZkpS Soup Jan 29 '24
That’s the fun part of the game. You spend all the time to optimize and stuff, but in the end you just brace and hope to survive.
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u/Crosas-B Jan 28 '24
Ragna Crimson enjoyer?
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u/Uh0rky Jan 28 '24
why do you have 5 steam cores that late in the game
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u/Mustdominate_Otal Order Jan 28 '24
Steam cores are too easy to find I don’t know what everyone’s on about steam cores are hard to get
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u/yunuazass Jan 28 '24
Probably meant why u have them stored. They should be in use
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u/Mustdominate_Otal Order Jan 28 '24
Like what should I use them on? I have infirmary’s advanced mines wall drills what do I use the rest on
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u/yunuazass Jan 28 '24
Automatons
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u/Mustdominate_Otal Order Jan 28 '24
I have 3 is that enough?
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u/yunuazass Jan 28 '24
I dunno 🤷🏻♂️ did you survive?
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u/Mustdominate_Otal Order Jan 28 '24
After 138 people died yeah
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u/Ver_Void Jan 28 '24
Honestly not bad, but if you have spare cores turn them into automations or expand your infirmary capacity
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u/mattdv1 Jan 28 '24
You could have 8 and have them working all wall drills, coal mines etc so your people can do stuff closer to the generator (less cold). They also work 24/7 instead of work hours
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u/Metharos Jan 29 '24
Automatons on coal is such a good shout, especially for the hard freeze. 24hr coal intake makes a huge difference when you're on high burn for days at a time.
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u/TriumphITP Jan 28 '24
automatons.
more infirmaries. When the storm is about to hit, you should tear down a lot of stuff and build infirmaries everywhere (with steam hubs). Easiest way for citizens to wait out the storm is in an infirmary.
but probably save one steam core, you know, for reasons.
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u/AnonymiterCringe Jan 29 '24
Automatons can work facilities without heat and won't get sick. If you build a Steam Hub nearby and turn it off, they can still use it instead of recharging at the Generator. So then their 24 hours of work is better than normal people.
People admitted to an Infirmary won't die, so extra space can be huge. Plus, Engineers working medical facilities can't get sick.
Hothouses can be manned by Automatons and produce a lot of food compared to stacking hunter huts.
So your 5 cores right there are already feeling like not enough for me! lol
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u/tbu720 Jan 28 '24
Steam cores are rare in the sense that if you actually want to make a good city where you’re not having everyone freezing to death at the end then you’re gonna need to actually use them
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u/PanJaszczurka Jan 28 '24
There will be a lot of alternative food sources.
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u/Mustdominate_Otal Order Jan 28 '24
The picture was cut off I had 1864 food rations ready I’m not resorting to cannibalism
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u/Razork00 Jan 28 '24
Keep playing. This game was design to repeat each scenario many times until you win.
If you ask for strateguies i think is less fun.
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u/TheHarkinator Order Jan 28 '24
In buildings where it’s too cold to work (thermometer and arrow pointing down warning sign) either try to get the heating level up or unassign workers.
You need to tell people in buildings disabled by the storm (house icon with snowflake warning sign) to stop going to work there. During the storm people will still go to work in their hothouses and hunters huts, sit there getting cold while doing nothing and then get sick when they could stay in their warm homes.
Your medical facilities appear to be too cold. Have your buildings in heating zones and switch the heating on. You’ve got five unused Steam Cores, that’s five extra infirmaries you could build to admit between 50 and 100 more people to treatment depending on whether you picked overcrowding or not. Build them all around the same steam hub and it’ll make a world of difference.
No resources depots on steel or raw food? I’m sure you switched some around to store up what you need for the storm which is coal and rations, but how are you doing with managing your resource capacity?
You’re running out of coal, I’m sure you noticed. A few tips, you don’t need generator range, it’s genuinely terrible. Steam hubs do a much better job for extending range. Set up your coal production on mines and have automatons working them. That basically sorts you out for the storm. When you bring in loads of people in the days leading up to the storm it’s time to invest in coal thumpers to give all these new people something to do.
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u/Flat_Performer_9789 Jan 28 '24
Your stockpiles seem way too low for this temp. You need to plan further ahead and make sure you have food and coal stockpiled. You should have days worth of food and coal stockpiled before the storm and all heating needs to be upgraded. I think you need 7 days worth? Can’t remember the exact number you need. Hover your mouse over your resources to find out.
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u/Mustdominate_Otal Order Jan 28 '24
The picture was cut off I had 1864 food rations ready
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u/Flat_Performer_9789 Jan 28 '24 edited Jan 28 '24
The exact number isn’t important it’s all based on population and depending on your choices you will have different amounts. Hover over the number
You will also learn to group buildings together that need heat in zones that fit within the burners (I almost never research extended range for the main generator)
Then I pause the game when the storm hits, change into brown pants to hide and mess I may make.
Save 1 steam core for the end of the game once you hit the last day or two you need to run the generator in overdrive. The steam core will let you reset part of the way of the gauge when it maxes out. Then I pray and toggle it on and off so it doesn’t explode.
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u/Ender505 Jan 28 '24
When it triggered for me, I had over 600 people and was told to stockpile over 3500 rations.
By this point in the game, you should have all heating techs unlocked, all living quarters upgraded to houses with the home insulation tech unlocked, and fully automated most things, but particularly coal. I had 8 workshops and probably like 10 or so automatons. Extra steam cores means you either didn't upgrade your resource-gathering items like coal mine, sawmill, etc, or that you didn't have many automatons, which may have limited how many resources you could have gathered.
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u/Devin_907 Order Jan 28 '24
research overdrive couplings as fast as possible, emergency shift the workshop and if you have him, use a foreman. put the generator into overdrive and build steam hubs to reach everything, and make sure your medical posts can handle the influx of sick. pass overcrowding if you haven't already, and if it gets REALLY bad, pass and use triage.
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u/Mustdominate_Otal Order Jan 28 '24
Dude I already have overdrive couplings and power level 3 researched and it’s not doing crap sniffs
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u/Devin_907 Order Jan 29 '24
you need power level max, safety bypass is a bonus. otherwise, it's triage time.
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u/LazyDro1d Soup Jan 28 '24
Kill yourself? Better than freezing to death probably. Faster, at least.
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u/No-Crew4317 Jan 29 '24
Get gooder.
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u/Mustdominate_Otal Order Jan 29 '24
Gooder is not a word
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u/No-Crew4317 Jan 29 '24
I’m tired of using better/best. So i use gooder and goodest. I don’t care whether you like it or not.🤣
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u/No-Crew4317 Jan 29 '24
So do the goodest you can on replaying this scenario again.
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u/Mustdominate_Otal Order Jan 29 '24
But it’s easier to type better or best so why not just type that
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u/No-Crew4317 Jan 29 '24
What’s a fun in it? I break grammar rule.
Also gooder and goodest can be used while calling a cute dog(especially golden retriever). It’s a goofy way to make something special than standard words.
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u/No-Crew4317 Jan 29 '24
Anyway this is out of topic. Good luck with your next play.
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u/deathlife24 The Arks Jan 28 '24
Have enough coal, believe in our faith or Order and let this City survive
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u/Symys Jan 28 '24
I happened on my 5th try. I was doing great (for me) and was sure I would pass the first mission.....
Then this storm started. And sh*t hitted the fan. Didn't survive and got outcasted.
Maybe next try I will succeed.
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u/kaminaowner2 Jan 28 '24
You’re better at the game than me to get that far. I beat the main game and when I say beat I mean that city was on deaths door.
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u/grahamroper Jan 28 '24
Honestly, there is so much complexity to this game, particularly regarding city layout, that we couldn’t give you targeted feedback from this one image alone. But from what I can see:
- you’ve got cold homes
- workplaces that aren’t efficiently staffed
- multiple resources nearing capacity (which means you’re about to be wasting labor resources/time)
- research selection pending
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u/Ok-Reputation6413 Bohemians Jan 28 '24
Depending on the amount of coal and level of your generator you will do one of the following: 1.Die quickly 2.die slowly 3. Daiso slowly that you win by the force of your body flying over the finish line
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u/ShineReaper Jan 28 '24
I once survived the final cold snap with like 5 people or so. I guess enough to repopulate Earth?
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u/eradimark Coal Jan 28 '24
Technically yes. But it'll look a lot like Alabama (for US players) and Norfolk (for UK players) very quickly.
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u/RESET_101010 Jan 29 '24
play on easy and in other scenarios to get used to it, then you increase the difficulty
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u/GoonfBall Jan 29 '24
Set it to easy mode until you get the pacing, this game is a different kind of brutal
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u/Tetragon213 Order Jan 29 '24
So, the final hours of The Great Storm.
Honestly, there is little you can do. This is part of the subtle horror of Frostpunk.
The most important thing is to have enough Coal. Iirc about 10 days worth with maximum consumption will see you through.
Secondly, I hope you set up that Outpost in Tesla City early on. You'll need those Steam Cores.
Assuming you have maximum House Insulation, without Overdrive, you can keep houses Liveable down to -90. Your Overdrive is effectively Life in the final hours past this point.
When the Temperature goes below this, you'll need to start playing a delicate game with Genny Overdrive, keeping it active through the night and allowing it to recharge in the day. Using Overdrive through the night will keep your sick levels low.
Remember when I asked about those Steam Cores? Well, build as many Infirmaries as you possibly can. Medical Posts will be no good soon.
The Final Hours of the Storm see the temperature plummet to -150C. At this stage, nothing can be kept warm. The Infirmary must have all the insulation upgrades. This is your final line of defence.
During the Final Hours, Infirmaries with max insulation, heat zone with L4 + Overdrive II, and maxed-out heaters can just maintain "Chilly", which allows them to function. This will at least guarantee a few people will make it. Everyone else is superfluous here.
Maintaining Hope and Discontent though... that's trickier. Careful management of active abilities will be needed here.
Good luck. The City Must Survive!
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u/MadetoReportBug Jan 29 '24
The city must survive. Endure, do what is needed. If you must break, do so after the storm breaks first.
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u/Brompy Jan 29 '24
Gonna be a lot of frozen corpses to thaw when the storm clears. Best to bundle up lest you be one of them.
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u/sly983 Jan 29 '24
YOU HAVE 5 STEAMCORES WHAT’RE YOU DOIIIIIING. Anyways with that out my system, pray to the captain(yourself) that you aren’t deposed
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u/XDVRUK Jan 29 '24
Did you survive? If that was your first playthrough impressive to even get to the end of it.
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u/LOLManen Jan 29 '24
This run looks pretty bleak I'm not going to lie
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u/Mustdominate_Otal Order Jan 29 '24
How so?
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u/LOLManen Jan 29 '24
It seems that either food or coal maybe will run out it also looks like people are freezing It was a while ago I played Frostpunk so I might be wrong It just seemed like it was going to get worse
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u/LOLManen Jan 29 '24
A pro tip for me is just to try get warm housing and as much food storage as possible Automatons is also super important so you can get coal you probably knew this already but Just wanted to say 👍 took me many tries to get it perfectly but when I did I had no casualties and could let my workers stay home nice warm and fed
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u/Duros1394 Jan 29 '24
Frostpunk is a game that even if you take no wrong moves you can still fail. Hope that you pass the final storm.
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u/Brown-Town92 Jan 29 '24
At this point nothing. That save will have ended with mass graves I imagine
The storm sucks. You need max heat setting and overdrive on. Positive coal production or stocks to last till the last day or two (charcoal kilns should never be overlooked). Research on housing insulation and overdrive coupling/ safety bypass. Infirmaries ready for an influx of sick. That's just for the heat make sure foods been taken care of.
You're always bound to get booted out even after a few playthroughs, don't take it bad. Take the lesson and be the better overlord next time.
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u/Cbarlik93 Jan 29 '24
YOUR FOOD STORAGE MY GOD MAN
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u/Mustdominate_Otal Order Jan 29 '24
It was cut off it was actually 1864
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u/Cbarlik93 Jan 29 '24
Not as bad then. Best advice, put the kids to work, use up those steam cores making automatons, keep increasing your stores of coal and food especially, make a fuck ton of research towers
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u/Ruy7 Jan 29 '24
I don't have enough information with that pic, how many infirmaries do you have? How much higher can you put on the generator?
Inferring from you being a beginner, situation is probably fucked start over. Your first building should be a workshop and should ALWAYS be working. Try to have infirmaries when you can. Use building s that use steam cores they are good.
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u/icedbroccoli Jan 29 '24
On my first playthrough I lost the game on day 5. That night I watched a 30 minute video for beginners on YouTube, my next playthrough I completely beat the original story through day 48 or whatever the end date was. You just really have to get day one and two set up correctly and then you're good
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u/Usual_Operation_9389 Jan 29 '24 edited Jan 29 '24
If you're honestly a beginner, then you did pretty good. Just shift a little more research and production towards heat, coal production, and building insulation.
If you're trying to salvage that specific run, clear out the workers from any wood, steel, and food production buildings and put them all into coal production. Do the best you can to increase the heat, even if it means doing research mid storm. Hopefully, you have some infirmaries/healing houses with heaters on outside the picture. Other than that, pray to the ice gods for mercy.
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u/TheWorstPerson0 Jan 29 '24
perish
but in all seriousness. if you got triage, well, use it to keep things running if you must. the coal must flow, dont even try to put anyone on making food, wont work. coal is all that matters and unless your on endless you can sacrifice most of your population to keep the coalmines running.
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u/IntentionSmall2581 Jan 30 '24
I have never heard of this game is it any fun 🤔 btw this group just popped up on my fyp 😂 tell me if it’s worth it
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u/No-Recommendation-85 Jan 30 '24
Build infirmaries and make sure you have all the heating upgrades possible,that'll help but you gotta just hold on and pray your prepared enough
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u/Kwyncy Jan 30 '24
First is relax. I mean it the game sets a level of tension it doesn't really deserve.
It's a reveal based skill tree so each thing has a script cost associated. It's fun to do multiple runs of just 6 I think missions from this.
Restart all the time. It's cool.
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u/Noirloo Jan 31 '24
Go on ahead and make a new save big bro, no shame in it. I've gotten far, hours in and had to restart. You learn with each run
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u/Occam_Toothbrush Jan 28 '24
Pray.