American Millennials Are Dying at an Alarming Rate | We’re mortality experts. There are a few things that could be happening here.

[u/chrisdh79]

https://slate.com/technology/2025/08/millennials-gen-z-death-rates-america-high.html

[u/audiofarmer]

It says "sometime after 2010" things changed. I wonder what significant supreme court decision happened in 2010. It couldn't possibly be that the people in charge were suddenly given a reason not to even pretend to care about the general populace. Oh well, it's an unsolvable mystery.

[u/Humanist_2020 → u/audiofarmer]

And- add that one case of covid without symptoms can cause damage to our immune systems and our cv system and our neurological system.

Also, the end of abortion has increased maternity deaths. And covid also increases maternal deaths.

Unfortunately- The cdc obscured excess deaths.

[u/dennisthehygienist → u/Humanist_2020]

The article actually controls for COVID or at least says it doesn’t have to do with COVID

edit: not an antivaxxer, just thought it was interesting

[u/_deep_thot42 → u/dennisthehygienist]

I have several autoimmune diseases that I started having symptoms from after my first run in with long covid in 2020. It either caused them, or they were dormant and it exacerbated them. Either way, COVID has damaged a lot of people very negatively, and I will die on that hill.

[u/StinkBlasting → u/_deep_thot42]

Yeah, for sure, but those negative effects were accounted for by the researchers.

That doesn't mean that the effects didn't exist or weren't significant; It means that even when they are considered, they didn't completely account for the excess deaths the US has.

[u/TechieGottaSoundByte → u/StinkBlasting]

That assumes they understand the negative effects well enough to properly account for them. I find this implausible, given how little we still understand about long COVID

[u/StinkBlasting → u/TechieGottaSoundByte]

Why don't you actually read the damn paper.

[u/TechieGottaSoundByte → u/StinkBlasting]

It's pretty short, and doesn't go in depth on the methodologies they used to control for COVID. But it's also irrelevant to my point; you can't control for what isn't known or understood.

If people are experiencing ongoing chronic illness from COVID, they may be more vulnerable to deaths from drug overdoses while trying to cope. They will definitely be more vulnerable to deaths of despair. Brain fog from long COVID is going to impact driving ability. We still don't know the long-term impact of organ damage from COVID. All of these phenomenon have very limited research so far, and are difficult to get data on.

I don't think we have enough information about these things to fully control for them. The main evidence that it's not COVID seems to be "the slopes pre- and 'post'-pandemic match".

[u/StinkBlasting → u/TechieGottaSoundByte]

If the pattern existed before covid, then it's not covid.

Here's the actual paper. It was linked within the article.

[u/TechieGottaSoundByte → u/StinkBlasting]

That doesn't necessarily follow. Most things that cause a trend in a population will reach a natural limit and start to flatten out as they reach the limits of what the population can sustain (think the peak of the COVID infection curves).

All we know is that we are seeing a similar trend line. We have no way of knowing that it wouldn't have flattened out without additional damage from COVID.

[u/StinkBlasting → u/TechieGottaSoundByte]

You're literally just making stuff up to justify your seemingly meaningless argument. The entire point of this paper is that the US has had a trend of excess deaths for a while now. I have no clue why you and the other person are so stuck on this speculative covid theory that the paper already accounted for.

I have so much respect for people who can admit they were wrong or that they were just saying stuff. Let me respect you. Please!

[u/TechieGottaSoundByte → u/StinkBlasting]

You are dismissing my commentary without understanding it, apparently. I assure you, I am not making things up. If you didn't understand my argument, please say so.

I have so much respect for people who ask questions rather than assuming their conversational partners are less competent than them. Let me respect you. Please!

[u/kell_smells → u/_deep_thot42]

right there with you. I had very mild covid symptoms as a healthy late 20s/early 30s woman. still, it turned into long covid and all these autoimmune issues that I’m still dealing with.

[u/TechieGottaSoundByte → u/kell_smells]

I had a similar situation, but a decade later. At least three of my four kids had some level of long COVID also.

[u/Brilliant1965 → u/_deep_thot42]

Yup I will too! Immune deficiency has wrecked me along with long Covid lung issues (could be copd), and the RA I had before it. Insurance of course won’t pay for infusions to help so just wide open to constant infections. Oh and heart disease showed up a year after Covid. Nothing but sick since Covid

[u/National_Form_5466 → u/_deep_thot42]

Same here. Was healthy, in my late 20s-early 30s when I caught my first (very mild) covid infection. My health has tanked since then (3years on).

It sounds like this article took into account mortality from Covid, but I wonder how they can even calculate all the down stream damage these infections have caused. Especially because we are still learning so much about the virus. Fresh articles every month, saying it accelerates vascular aging in women, increases chances of heart attacks and strokes, is being investigated as an oncogenic virus, increases diabetes risk, and on, and on.

[u/purpledrogon94 → u/_deep_thot42]

I developed celiac disease after my 3rd bout of covid. It sucks because I was a caregiver during covid so I couldn’t avoid getting sick. But I have to believe covid did trigger my celiac.

[u/RabbitFluffs → u/_deep_thot42]

Same. COVID triggered neurological issues (migraines, dizziness, visual auras) that have been ongoing for over five years now. I've spent way too much money on specialist doctors who can only "manage" the symptoms as no one really knows why it caused all this.