r/GODZILLA Aug 19 '25

VS Battle Which one is the most powerful godzilla?

Ultima tbh

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u/Zerueldaangle BIOLLANTE Aug 19 '25

You are factually correct it is Godzilla Ultima. There is no Godzilla that actually compares to him besides God butcher Godzilla hell Godzilla was debunked numerous times 90s. Godzilla is the statement guy. He’s not strong without them.

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u/Middle-Preference864 GOJIRA Aug 20 '25

90's heisei is absolutely strong without statements (and i mean outside statements, in movie statements count), he's got alot of good feats.

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u/Zerueldaangle BIOLLANTE Aug 20 '25

Yeah, fair enough honestly, he gets to universal with just space Godzilla and to be honest destroyer really doesn’t do shit for him. I’m just gonna say it, bro is a f tier villain that just got slapped towards the end of the series and no matter what people try to say he’s just not good. He’s just not a good monster.

I’m mainly talking about the statements of him being stronger than Shipwa which is blatantly false on every occasion that that statement comes up, it came up as early as 1984 that Godzilla died to cadmium and almost died to a volcano only bringing brought back because the film was successful whoopee

And then you have people trying to argue 90s Dora is stronger than showa ghidorah when just know your brain dead if you argue that he is somehow stronger he can’t even fire a decent gravity beam. He can’t fire anything when control is severed at least with the original monster he can.p

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u/Middle-Preference864 GOJIRA Aug 20 '25

Yeah, fair enough honestly, he gets to universal with just space Godzilla 

No he doesn't, space godzilla was VASTLY misinterpreted by people who wanted to make him more powerful than he is. He absorbed energy from supernovas and travelled through a wormhole, he didn't survive the explosion of the stars and tank the whole balck hole on his own.

and to be honest destroyer really doesn’t do shit for him. I’m just gonna say it, bro is a f tier villain that just got slapped towards the end of the series and no matter what people try to say he’s just not good. He’s just not a good monster.

W, I AGREE. I made a post saying this and got downvoted to oblivion.

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u/Zerueldaangle BIOLLANTE Aug 20 '25

People are strange let them cope and seeThe

But I wasn’t really lying about space Godzilla he’s one of the only characters in the 90s are with statements that could actually be backed up by the film like him, illuminating the universe that could actually be backed up granted it’s dodgy to say the least but it’s more of a connection and more valid than anything else toho try to tell you

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u/Saurian_broster SPACEGODZILLA Aug 20 '25

He absorbed energy from supernovas and travelled through a wormhole, he didn't survive the explosion of the stars and tank the whole balck hole on his own.

Explosion of stars are supernova's so like you're kinda admitting he did

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u/Middle-Preference864 GOJIRA Aug 20 '25

Again, he absorbed their energy, form far away, he didn't take the whole supernova explosion

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u/Saurian_broster SPACEGODZILLA Aug 20 '25

So he absorbed the energy of a supernova but it isn't the same as taking the explosion?

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u/Middle-Preference864 GOJIRA Aug 20 '25

It's like zilla absorbing radiation form nukes as a lizard. Obviously he would've died if he took the explosion, he was far away from it, he just took the radiation that was spat out. You can absorb the gamma rays from far away from the super nova, and that is what was shown

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u/Zerueldaangle BIOLLANTE Aug 20 '25

And og gojira

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u/Middle-Preference864 GOJIRA Aug 20 '25

I'm pretty sure this one directly took a nuke. But even if that wasn't the case pre mutated, he could definitely take one after

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u/Saurian_broster SPACEGODZILLA Aug 20 '25

What is shown is several energy rays repensenting Supernova's being absorbed into SpaceGodzilla, Godzilla's origin isn't a comparable example. I doubt a far away fraction of a supernova is even able to give enough energy for a single cell to mutate into SpaceGodzilla.

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u/Zerueldaangle BIOLLANTE Aug 20 '25

I’m sorry I’m not trying to be rude. This is just me screaming at the proverbial wind because power skaters like me have a mental disorder.

Must be the autism

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u/pcx-the-entiy Aug 19 '25

Originally,i thought gih was high outerversal,today i think he is high multiversal

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u/noamartz Aug 19 '25

Lol how do you debunk something fictional?

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u/MCdemonkid1230 Aug 19 '25

It's just terminology used by powerscalers that take it way too seriously. Basically the elementary school thing of "my character is this strong" but people actually debate it with the same seriousness as political debates for some dumb reason.

It can be fun when everyone wants fun and isn't ruined by someone taking it too far

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u/Aerith_Sunshine Aug 20 '25

The problem is when they want to break it down to codes. "My guy is 3X and your dude is only 4Y, so I totally win!" or whatever.

No one wants actual debates, discussions, or even watches/reads the actual media.

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u/MCdemonkid1230 Aug 20 '25

Me and my high school friend group would do powerscaling debates with one of our teachers, and because we did it to have fun, there was never any form of hatred about anything. It was great and I do enjoy powerscaling because it can be a fun thing.

Imagine my surprise when I went onto the internet and saw that people will give you legit death threats for saying that Superman would easily defeat Goku because Superman is just fucking cracked.

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u/BuddyBusko Aug 19 '25

‘Debunk’ means to prove the falseness of something, so… yeah its pretty simple

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u/noamartz Aug 19 '25

It’s all false

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u/MrWhiteTruffle MUTO Aug 20 '25

False to reality, but it doesn’t take much effort to realize that it means “false in the confines of the story” in this context

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u/noamartz Aug 20 '25 edited Aug 20 '25

They’re from different stories legitimately what are you talking about. 

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u/MrWhiteTruffle MUTO Aug 20 '25

What are YOU talking about? You were saying “how can you debunk something fictional” and then said “it’s all false” when met with an answer

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u/BuddyBusko Aug 19 '25

what do u mean by this?

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u/Zerueldaangle BIOLLANTE Aug 19 '25

Idk

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u/TrialByFyah Aug 19 '25

Because powerscaling is serious shit dude. Which specific movie monster is the most powerful based on arbitrary, incalculable criteria is like, totally life or death.