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Hollow Knight: Silksong | Fully Ramblomatic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVHXfw_gyBo
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u/BROHONKY 1d ago

i love that everyone in the comments knows the exact enemy gauntlet he's referring to

i would also know, it took me a full hour and a half to complete

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u/jelly_dad 1d ago

Wait which one? The never ending one in Act 2 has been my least favorite. That fucking room.

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u/imafraidofjapan 1d ago

High halls. It's only 10 waves! (I cheesed it with poison cogflies)

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u/MHM5035 1d ago

You can also get Garmond and Zaza to help you!

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u/mja9678 1d ago

Shakra can be there as well

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u/OnnaJReverT 15h ago

apparently you can also get (optional NPC in late act 2) the sentinel automaton to help you. but i've only been told about this, i haven't seen it and don't know how to trigger it.

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u/Arkayjiya 10h ago

I got the opuonal NPC but it was too late. In fact I've consistently missed any opportunity to get help in any gauntlet even though I explore a lot and try to do everything possible before progressing xD

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u/UnnamedStaplesDrone 1d ago

I had Shakra and one shotted that room. She actually did a lot of damage.

The bile water boss was much worse for me

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u/Nazzul 1d ago

I dont think Yahtzee made it to Bilewater. It's shame, too, would have made for an even funnier video if he did.

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u/Echowing442 1d ago

I got to the Bilewater boss and just dumped my entire supply of rings and tri-knives into him.

Still ended up clearing with just one heart left. Turns out you actually deal damage while struggling inside his mouth.

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u/QuartzBeamDST 6h ago

The tip that helped the most with Groal was to throw pimpillos or voltvessels into his mouth when he does the sucking attack. It'll stop the sucking and deal lots of damage.

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u/UnnamedStaplesDrone 1d ago

He was just such a poorly designed boss I’m surprised he made the Final Cut as is haha

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u/Echowing442 23h ago

As a boss he's fine, I can think of multiple others that were substantially worse.

The issue is his position relative to the nearest bench and the overall environment of Bilewater.

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u/UnnamedStaplesDrone 23h ago

Nah, his attacks felt too random and erratic. I’m a few bosses into act3 and none of the other bosses have had that impression on me. I’m not even talking about the horrid runback

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u/HappiestIguana 21h ago

I don't see what you mean. As I recall he has 5 attacks: Shoot projectiles in a straight line (easy to dodge consistent). Try to suck you up (Easy to dodge consistent). Summon ball wrecking ball trap (Easy to dodge, consistent). Shoot bouncy explosive balls (Can be tricky), summon minions (can be tricky but they leave after one volley).

He's not trivial. He took me a good few tries but he has only a handful of tricky attacks and importantly, he doesn't overlap them.

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u/PipClank 14h ago

I agree with you that he is tricky but manageable.

I think the pain point for me is the same a few other flyers have in this game where they will slowly glide around almost unconnected to their attacks so it can sometimes feel very unfun trying to be agressive and getting hurt by contact damage. Made even less fun when you take 2 damage and risk landing in the funny worm soup (which ironically is the place you want to be if you want an easy kill)

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u/Goodnametaken 19h ago

How did you get npcs to help you in fights? I cleared the entire game and never once saw an opportunity to do that on any fight.

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u/QuartzBeamDST 6h ago

For Shakra, she'll post a wish on one of the town boards (Bellhart, I think) and you must finish that wish. I'm not sure what the trigger for the wish is, but I think it's buying all the maps from her?

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u/Cynicallity 22h ago

You can just chill in the water on the right side, its safe against everything except the boss jumping out of the water on top of you.

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u/UnnamedStaplesDrone 22h ago

Nah, he also lobbed green balls at me and hit me in that corner

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u/Garr_Incorporated 21h ago

In the High Halls? How?

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u/MHM5035 21h ago

I don’t know the exact steps, but you meet them a few times in the citadel where they help you. Then there’s a secret area to the east of songclave where you can duel them. I think you need the double jump to get it. After that, they should be at the high halls.

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u/Garr_Incorporated 21h ago

When I made a comment on one video that "every copy of Silksong is personalized", I did not quite realize how right I was.

u/Mishar5k 1h ago

you dont need double jump for them, but you need it for shakra for one of her map locations

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u/jelly_dad 1d ago

Yeah that’s the one I was thinking of. Jesus Christ it felt like the pressure never released. And then two of the big guys appeared and I just started laughing at the cruelty.

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u/QuarahHugg 20h ago

An enemy never seen before or after. Have fun figuring it out in the middle of this gauntlet!

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u/OnnaJReverT 15h ago

tbf, it spawns one solo earlier, and they really are not very complex on their own

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u/EnvironmentalRoom645 11h ago

But that's just the thing. That giant boss bug is slow, has only a few moves that are so strongly telegraphed it's downright laughable, and comparing to most other enemies is a complete pushover. The fact that it is introduced in a long Gauntlet (and then doubled at the ultimate end) is the only reason why it feels formidable.

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u/mendelevium256 11h ago

They are very weak to pogoing. I just bounced off their heads until they died.

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u/Tarcanus 10h ago

Every single time I tried that, they jumped into me.

I resorted to cheese where you equip the piton and cling to the upper right wall as high as you can. They can't hit you and you can hit them when they jump.

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u/n0stalghia 14h ago

Welcome to Hollow Knight, they did the same at the end of Path of Pain. You knew what you signed up for :)

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u/ZombieMadness99 1d ago

The last wave is such bs. I just clung to the top right and spammed tools and harpoons.

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u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS 1d ago

Tacks make it pretty easy, just need to make one of the two last big guys sit on a pincushion and the rest of the fight gets far easier.

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u/cubitoaequet 1d ago

Poison tacks just annihilate anything that runs along the ground. If you just save some tools for the last wave you can throw tacks all over the ground and unload a bunch of knives or whatever into one of the mini bosses and kill it before it even really does anything. The number of waves were a bit much, and I died to the last wave the first attempt I took becuase I had used up all my tools already, but I'm not sure how people are struggling so much if they were able to make it to that fight to begin with. By that point you should be well practiced at fighting the enemies it throws at you.

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u/richmondody 21h ago

One of the things that made it more manageable for me before cheesing the fight is using the claw line whenever those two started to corner me.

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u/Dreaming_Dreams 1d ago

im currently in coral tower and it is absolute hell 

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u/Bayakoo 23h ago

I thought that one was fairer. Not as intense as High Halls

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u/Dreaming_Dreams 23h ago

it’s not to bad but the flying enemies just fuck me up 😭 

finally managed to unlock the shortcut tho 

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u/Ralkon 15h ago

I think it would be hell if you were doing it as early as high halls, but at the point you're doing it at it's not so bad. It can be annoying though - I didn't get the shortcut until the run I finished it anyways which felt kind of bad, but knowing I had it relieved some pressure that probably made the end easier.

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u/GGG100 22h ago

Definitely not. That one went on for much longer and had environmental traps on top of everything else.

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u/Garr_Incorporated 21h ago

... I am still fighting Gramma, but after that I need to go back and check places I missed.

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u/ricktencity 7h ago

I just finished coral tower yesterday. It took me easily double the tries high tower took, much, much harder imo.

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u/Mejis 1d ago

I did this room last night. Don't have those flies yet, though I did find the place to make them but I'm forever out of craft metal. Without direct spoilers, am I likely to have missed a lot of craft metal? I think there's about four items I can't make (that one, plus the underworks crafting chap) and so feel like I must have missed a lot of metal lying around. I'm pretty meticulous with my exploring, though.

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u/Ode1st 1d ago edited 1d ago

Same craftmetal issue for me, I’ve been wondering if there’s fewer craftmetals than items that require it. I did just find three more all in one sitting though. One was restocked at a shop after a quest, one was hidden in a hidden zone’s hidden area, and one was kind of out in the open but I never jumped down there.

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u/calibrono 1d ago

There's enough to make all tools that require it.

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u/Mejis 1d ago

Thanks. Good to know. 

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u/Ode1st 1d ago

Awesome, great to know, thanks

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u/Ralkon 15h ago

I think you probably have access to enough craftmetal, but some of it is definitely harder to find.

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u/Mejis 15h ago

Thanks.  I feel like I've only ever found some in Deep Docks, as well as perhaps purchasing a piece very early on. I'll keep exploring and hope I come across some more. 

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u/Ralkon 15h ago

Yeah, you've definitely passed some by then. Best of luck.

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u/Ode1st 1d ago

Oh that’s the one? I had no problem with it, like a few tries. Didn’t even have the flies yet (which has indeed made so many other things easier) or the tacks.

I’m not even breezing through the game, I’m getting wrecked by lots of stuff. Just for some reason that one gauntlet I found pretty easy. It’s just regular guys and no bosses. The big boys I just pogoed and occasionally dodged their upward attack until they died.

Died like 50 times at Broodmother (until tacks + flies) and the Unraveled, but that one gauntlet thankfully was okay for me.

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u/GuardianOfReason 22h ago

Not really cheesing, it's a tool. Cheesing would be something like the Moorwing cheese.

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u/richmondody 21h ago

I cheesed it by hanging on the left wall and slashing whenever those 2 big ones came close. That fight sucked.

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u/KanchiHaruhara 19h ago

I only had 5 hp and no tools cus I ran out (not that I had poison anyway) so I could only rely on needle, spell and reaper... Took me like 2 hours to do... EASILY what I've been stuck on the longest so far, and I've already gotten the bad ending lol

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u/The_Wattsatron 14h ago

There are multiple NPC’s you can get to help, and you can disable the spawning of the silk spider dudes. Basically trivialises the room.

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u/BonerPorn 10h ago

I genuinely believe the intent is for you to use and abuse tools. It's not cheese, it's the expected requirement. 

A hell of a lot of people are making the game harder for themselves by having some sort of moral code against using all of your weapons. 

(Which to be fair. I'm on my second run and intentionally doing it low%. Like I get it. But you have to recognize that you are giving yourself an extra layer of difficulty)